VIDEO: Our kids are listening, are you destroying their innocence?

  • metta

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    Dec 22, 2012 8:35 AM GMT
    VIDEO: Our kids are listening, are you destroying their innocence?


    http://www.causes.com/causes/7741-gay-rights-are-human-rights/actions/1715747
  • Fable

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    Dec 22, 2012 3:48 PM GMT
    pretty fucking powerful
  • MidwesternKid

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    Dec 22, 2012 6:26 PM GMT
    Simple but very effective. Thank you for sharing.
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    Dec 22, 2012 6:31 PM GMT
    Great Video.

    I am disgusted that many of those that preach hate against LGBT are the ones who say they are defending family values.

    My family values are to love one another and be supportive.
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    Dec 22, 2012 7:06 PM GMT


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    Dec 22, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
    That's a cool video. Thanks for sharing.
  • stratavos

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    Dec 22, 2012 11:30 PM GMT
    *nod* good video indeed (the first one, haven't seen the other two)
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    Dec 23, 2012 7:02 AM GMT
    The human kennel approach is interesting. Intellectually it seems to make sense on first thinking about it as some sort of stop-gap measure. But also my initial gut reaction is repulsion and it would take me a while to resolve that.

    I'm not even sure what about it repulses me. Is it simply the kennel effect? Are we not able to provide real beds? How about we provide real families? Does providing real beds really acknowledge a problem we'd rather hole up in a kennel?

    Are the kennels dehumanizing? Is it less dehumanizing to think of children fighting for their lives on the streets? How could the more violent of those two options seem more human? I find this very disturbing.

    What I would love to see is the gay community pulling for their own. It's not enough to tell the kids it's okay to be gay. It's not enough to tell the parents, hey, stop throwing away your children. Because let's face it, the assholes are gonna keep throwing their gay children away. Is there any effort on the part of the gay community to provide a healthy & loving family life for kids thrown out of their own families? Or would we be asking too much of ourselves to do that when we can just cut a check and build a kennel?
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    Dec 23, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    theantijock saidThe human kennel approach is interesting. Intellectually it seems to make sense on first thinking about it as some sort of stop-gap measure. But also my initial gut reaction is repulsion and it would take me a while to resolve that.

    I'm not even sure what about it repulses me. Is it simply the kennel effect? Are we not able to provide real beds? How about we provide real families? Does providing real beds really acknowledge a problem we'd rather hole up in a kennel?

    Are the kennels dehumanizing? Is it less dehumanizing to think of children fighting for their lives on the streets? How could the more violent of those two options seem more human? I find this very disturbing.

    What I would love to see is the gay community pulling for their own. It's not enough to tell the kids it's okay to be gay. It's not enough to tell the parents, hey, stop throwing away your children. Because let's face it, the assholes are gonna keep throwing their gay children away. Is there any effort on the part of the gay community to provide a healthy & loving family life for kids thrown out of their own families? Or would we be asking too much of ourselves to do that when we can just cut a check and build a kennel?


    I think more gays should take in thrown away kids. I'd do it if I had the money but then again I always make a way when someone needs help. When I used to be a T.A. there was one boy who had no parents and he would just roam the streets. I used to let him stay inside the school for a few hours and give him snacks until his legal guardian came home.

    But it might be asking too much of the gay community to be selfless and take in our gay youth when you've got too many who can't get past their own mirrors to see the world outside.

    Also the kennel idea is weird.
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  • metta

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    Dec 24, 2012 2:22 AM GMT
    My So Called Life Christmas episode

    Part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1702R1Tmwos


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1B76WXOotg
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    Dec 24, 2012 3:24 AM GMT
    metta8 said
    My So Called Life Christmas episode

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1702R1Tmwos


    I sometimes had kids stay at our house when they'd run away from their own homes. A kid from across the street had drunken, abusive parents. He was str8 but was thrown out pretty often. After high school he died of an overdose.

    Another friend, a really fucking good guy, lived often in any one of our houses, cars, vans, garages, throughout most of our childhood. Also by abusive parents. He grew up into a very generous guy, successful in his small biz in California and has abused and neglected children regularly to ride horses at his ranch.
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    Dec 24, 2012 7:45 PM GMT
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    These videos were awesome! Thanks for sharing. I recently came out to my dad and he was surprisingly more accepting then I thought. I can't imagaine doing it though when I was a teenager and him not appoving and kicking me out.

    I really want to volunteer and donate to these organizations helping these kids out.
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    Dec 25, 2012 12:11 AM GMT
    David4985 said

    These videos were awesome! Thanks for sharing. I recently came out to my dad and he was surprisingly more accepting then I thought. I can't imagaine doing it though when I was a teenager and him not appoving and kicking me out.

    I really want to volunteer and donate to these organizations helping these kids out.


    I realize I went on a bit of a tangent from the OP but it seemed the culmination of the destruction of that innocence. The 2nd vid I'd seen before. The first was new to me. I can't help but to be taken in by these kids. Especially when they are so very articulate that it is even harder to understand how any parent wouldn't be proud to have that kid as their kid.

    Yet if you also watched the QAF vid, it's interesting to see Sparks' character being so negative--even hostile--towards homeless gay youth. And that strikes me as pretty typical of our gay culture. It certainly seems something we could work on.

    Living in Fort Lauderdale, hanging out on the strip in my late teens and early 20s on school breaks, I met a lot of these kids and I befriended a few at that time. I didn't have a lot of my own resources then to do much but I did lend an ear and I heard some horror stories. I certainly lucked out with my family too and I have never taken them for granted.
  • SoCalSun

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    Dec 25, 2012 12:19 AM GMT
    The kids are the ones I'm most worried about.

    The anti-gay sentiments and lack of respect from within the gay community have to stop in order to create some positive change for the future.

    On a happier note, MERRY XMAS RJers!

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  • metta

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    Dec 26, 2012 5:13 AM GMT
    Homeless for the Holidays: Witnessing the Lives of Homeless LGBT Youth

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-siciliano/homeless-for-the-holidays-witnessing-the-lives-of-homeless-lgbt-youth_b_2349018.html
  • metta

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    Dec 26, 2012 5:22 AM GMT
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