Weaklings

  • Henri_jhb

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    Dec 24, 2012 4:08 PM GMT
    Am I the only one noticing all the self depression on these forums?

    What happened to "Get up, and move on with life", instead of asking stupid questions?

    Seems like people are just here for sympathy...?

    Really? Is this what we have become? Weaklings looking for the approval of others? Or looking for sympathy when we know what needs to be done, but expecting someone to miraculously change our mind to make ourselves feel better...

    Sorry - I don't have patience... I was kicked out the same day I came out of the closet... I am 26 now, and better off than most people my age - and I did it on my own (Have two diplomas and busy with a degree)... Never turned to Alcohol, and never turned to drugs... So don't understand all the "ugh this and ugh that" and "oh my life" and "blah blah blah". Lift your head up and move forward!!!

    And wtf is it with all the racial questions? (As if we don’t get it enough).
    To put it plainly, if a man does not want to date you - GET OVER IT! Move on and find someone who will appreciate you - Simple as that. Same for all races... Stop linking interests to the race card – it is boring and the wheels came off a long time ago!
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    Dec 24, 2012 4:17 PM GMT
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  • MikeW

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    Dec 24, 2012 4:37 PM GMT
    So... you never needed any help from anyone. Never received any help from anyone. You're a self made man and have no idea why anyone would ever need support or counseling or to know they aren't the only people dealing with problems. You have no use what ever for compassion or camaraderie.

    And you aren't full of rage about it either.

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    Dec 24, 2012 4:41 PM GMT
    Not everyone is you. People are different. People have emotions. People get hurt. People feel vulnerable. I'm glad you are a supposedly a self made man but in the words of a wise man 'YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT!'

    Whether we recognize it or not someone else has a had a hand in shaping our destiny. Maybe your parents throwing you out was the part they had to play. Who is to say you would the same person had they not.
  • HottJoe

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    Dec 24, 2012 5:51 PM GMT
    I hate when people who almost never post decide to criticize the people who contribute. The OP is an ignorant moron.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 24, 2012 6:19 PM GMT
    Yeah, well the pity party around here is getting pretty sickening.

    New rule: You must complete 100 push-ups before making a whiny post.
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    Dec 24, 2012 6:34 PM GMT
    Whatever! Get over yourself!
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    Dec 24, 2012 6:38 PM GMT
    Henri_jhb saidAm I the only one noticing all the self depression on these forums?

    What happened to "Get up, and move on with life", instead of asking stupid questions?

    Seems like people are just here for sympathy...?

    Really? Is this what we have become? Weaklings looking for the approval of others? Or looking for sympathy when we know what needs to be done, but expecting someone to miraculously change our mind to make ourselves feel better...

    Sorry - I don't have patience... I was kicked out the same day I came out of the closet... I am 26 now, and better off than most people my age - and I did it on my own (Have two diplomas and busy with a degree)... Never turned to Alcohol, and never turned to drugs... So don't understand all the "ugh this and ugh that" and "oh my life" and "blah blah blah". Lift your head up and move forward!!!

    And wtf is it with all the racial questions? (As if we don’t get it enough).
    To put it plainly, if a man does not want to date you - GET OVER IT! Move on and find someone who will appreciate you - Simple as that. Same for all races... Stop linking interests to the race card – it is boring and the wheels came off a long time ago!


    Um...is this your first time on the internet?
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    Dec 24, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
    I basically agree with you but the fact of life is some people are weaker than others.Some people have a horrible life and roll with the punches.Others have one major loss and they commit suicide.I have had a lot of unhappiness in my life.I don't know where I would be now if at my darkest moment fate did not send me the man of my dreams.We can't hold everyone to a single standard.
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    Dec 24, 2012 6:46 PM GMT
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  • Suetonius

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    Dec 24, 2012 6:52 PM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Whether we recognize it or not someone else has a had a hand in shaping our destiny. Maybe your parents throwing you out was the part they had to play. Who is to say you would [be] the same person had they not.
    This certainly wins the Most Perceptive Post of the Year award! You certainly know how to find the piss-cloud's silver lining. You know, we could extrapolate from that - to the unrecognized benefits accruing to all sorts of indignities. Like the face-destroyed-by-Acid-Pakastani-woman of the week - she must surely now be more aware of the transience of physical beauty, and now has the strength to go on living as ugly. And how awe inspiring it is just to contemplate the benefits gained by a soldier's family when his funeral is disrupted by those whacko christians from Oklahoma - their strength of character must be increased 1,000 fold.
  • JackDoyle

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    Dec 24, 2012 6:53 PM GMT
    you deserve a medal icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 24, 2012 6:53 PM GMT
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    Agreed.

    There comes a time to finish indulging in a self-comforting wallow (which in and of itself is fine, for a self specified period), but then, eventually, suck it the fuck up, put your emotions to one side (like in a diary or some other expressive outlet) long enough to create a plan of action that will move your life in the direction you want it to go, and wholeheartedly execute said plan, until that becomes the new default mode of action.

  • calibro

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    Dec 24, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
    but how else are people going to know what tattoo to get if they don't ask me?
  • KZNindian

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    Dec 24, 2012 7:05 PM GMT
    And wtf is it with all the racial questions? (As if we don’t get it enough).
    To put it plainly, if a man does not want to date you - GET OVER IT! Move on and find someone who will appreciate you - Simple as that. Same for all races... Stop linking interests to the race card – it is boring and the wheels came off a long time ago![/quote].

    Hey guy agree with you in South Africa on this one point, but it's a general comment not aimed only at the gay guys.
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    Dec 24, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
    Relentless positive thinking will wear you out faster than honest despair will.
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    Dec 24, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
    KZNindian saidAnd wtf is it with all the racial questions?


    You're new here aren't you
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    Dec 24, 2012 7:07 PM GMT
    Show us how you do it. Its better to lift others up than to put them down. So what you think lesser of the people struggling. You too will/do suffer the same, one form or another. Don't feed the self defeating but have a heart and a funny bone. You could still fit in here, you poor thing.

    Don't judge s book by it's cover.
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    Dec 24, 2012 7:10 PM GMT
    Elusium saidRelentless positive thinking will wear you out faster than honest despair will.

    You're back! Yay! Your blunt no bull post keep me thinking and in check. Pwn me with your Higher Reasoning! icon_twisted.gificon_razz.gificon_wink.gif
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    Dec 24, 2012 7:14 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said...
    Sorry, babe, not with you on this one.
    RJ acts functionally as that diary you recommend, at least for some people.
    And we all have the option to skip a thread that looks like it's going to irritate us.
    It's not for us to censor or shame any of our peers here.


    I hear what you're saying, mon ami.

    Still:

    I know this site has the capacity to function in that way for us all, albeit, I think there is a vast difference between the occasional outlet of negative emotion from time to time, and a state of almost perpetually abusing this function so that the forums become a self-centred canvas merely to vent any and every (perceived) grievance and ill emotion, to the deficit of all other tones of posts, ignoring all helpful advice, and repeating the same cycle, over and over.

    For me, there comes a point where if somebody is sharing their woes with the rest of the forum to reply to, and yet they really don't show any desire to grow from the process with the help and opinions of others here, then, we all have the option to comment upon and share our own views on that particular phenomenon.

    Censorship isn't my objective, quite the opposite.
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    Dec 24, 2012 7:18 PM GMT
    OP! You need to consider that some of these guys who are going through depression may have it due to a physiological cause. There is a possibility of a chemical and/or transmitter imbalance and in these cases, they are not weak! Rather, they may need some professional help but we can do our part by offering advice or encouragement. That said, try to keep a positive attitude and happy holidays to you!
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    Dec 24, 2012 7:27 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidNew rule: You must complete 100 push-ups before making a whiny post.


    Old rule, you might want to post your hundred on here,

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    Dec 24, 2012 7:29 PM GMT
    Suetonius said
    MashogaNubianPrince said
    Whether we recognize it or not someone else has a had a hand in shaping our destiny. Maybe your parents throwing you out was the part they had to play. Who is to say you would [be] the same person had they not.
    This certainly wins the Most Perceptive Post of the Year award! You certainly know how to find the piss-cloud's silver lining. You know, we could extrapolate from that - to the unrecognized benefits accruing to all sorts of indignities. Like the face-destroyed-by-Acid-Pakastani-woman of the week - she must surely now be more aware of the transience of physical beauty, and now has the strength to go on living as ugly. And how awe inspiring it is just to contemplate the benefits gained by a soldier's family when his funeral is disrupted by those whacko christians from Oklahoma - their strength of character must be increased 1,000 fold.


    I saw a woman on Oprah was who was very pretty and a car accident horribly disfigured her and she barely looked human. And yet she still had the strength to soldier on. I forget what she said but basically she was grateful just to he alive and if this was the price she had to pay to be alive then so be it.
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    Dec 24, 2012 7:30 PM GMT
    Elusium saidRelentless positive thinking will wear you out faster than honest despair will.


    That is so true.

    Check your messages by the way.
  • Havenjock80

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    Dec 24, 2012 7:37 PM GMT
    I agree with the OP somewhat and disagree somewhat.

    OP - There s a lot of what you mentioned that goes on but people are interdependent somewhat symbiotic to one another we wat to know what the next man is thinking not to validate but to help make comparisons and see if anyone out there had had the same thoughts.

    I really like to see the young 18-19 years old asking questions and have forums to make their journey more bearable. I wish I had this when I first knew that I liked men instead of sharing my thoughts with some 40 year old whose idea of sympathy and understanding was to throw me in his van and have his way with me..We all have our own paths to life my friend.