Had an epiphany, should join Army

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    Dec 25, 2012 9:43 PM GMT
    So right now I am unemployed, no job, no school and I drop out. I am wondering about future and thinking I should take up with the USA Army or Navy?

    Does anyone here have any experence/adivce? I am pretty quick, like guns and love men icon_redface.gif
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    Dec 25, 2012 9:50 PM GMT
    I don't think loving guns, men or not having a job should be any motivation to join the army. Think of it this way: would you join the mob if you wanted some dick and a paycheck? You gotta love what you do and have a passion for what you go into or you won't be doing it for very long or doing it with a smile.
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    Dec 25, 2012 10:35 PM GMT
    your name specifically says 'not a fighter' so I'm guessing no, since I think you'd need qualifications to not be working on the front line for very long (my friend was talking it about but I wasn't paying full attention)
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    Dec 25, 2012 11:21 PM GMT
    honestly joining the military is a big deal. You should go to MEPS and see if you even qualify to go first. There are a lot of this that dis qual you from joining any branch. Army should be the easiest to get into tho
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    Dec 26, 2012 1:41 AM GMT
    karson saidyour name specifically says 'not a fighter' so I'm guessing no, since I think you'd need qualifications to not be working on the front line for very long (my friend was talking it about but I wasn't paying full attention)

    Not necessarily. Not everyone who joins the military is a front line solider. Though he'd learn things like assembling rifles - he could end up repairing military vehicles.
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    Dec 26, 2012 1:48 AM GMT
    I think it is courageous if you want to do it. Make sure you are 100%. I was going to join the army but back out because "dishonorable discharge" will screw you up for life. I am not saying that the army might not be accepting but you do not know who is friend or foe. If you can keep it professional then do it.
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    Dec 26, 2012 1:52 AM GMT
    It's a good thing Air Force isn't one of your options.
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    Dec 26, 2012 1:54 AM GMT
    Definitely not something to do on a whim - check it out very thoroughly. You can get good training in either service - and if you stay in for a while, there are post-military education benefits (if Congress does not take them away in a budget cutting frenzy). Both army and navy have very technical jobs which require a lot of training these days. You have to be able to withstand the BS and abuse of basic training.

    No matter what your job in the army, the USA tends to go to war a lot these days, and all kinds of guys (other than just infantry) get killed or maimed in Iraq/Afghan.
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    Dec 26, 2012 2:14 AM GMT
    ConfederateGhost saidIt's a good thing Air Force isn't one of your options.
    Why a "good thing"? Sarcasm? He didn't mention the USAF, so maybe he isn't interested. - It does have a lot of technical jobs (and training)m however.
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    Dec 26, 2012 6:35 AM GMT
    Eh, I joined on a whim last month. I am a pacifist. Basic has been going great so far but I'm on leave at the moment. I personally cannot wait to go back to summer camp

    BUT... if you are a pacifist, make sure you do fucking fantastic on the ASVAB so you can pick a MOS (for army) that allows you to be a FOBit. Not that it guarantees that you will never see combat, but being in a support job means your likelihood of ever having to fire your weapon drastically drops.

    Another thing to note... I was special. I got over a 120 in every aggregate score on the ASVAB so my counselor worked with me to get me a ship date that was within two weeks. I shopped MOS by ship date, not by job description. If you want a specific job or do bad on the ASVAB, be prepared to wait between three to twelve MONTHS for your basic to start. And pay doesn't start until basic starts. In short... it is NOT an "I am unemployed and need money NOW" fix. It is a commitment and you need to be sure you can live with it.

    And liking men isn't a good thing. I am at "Relaxing Jackson" for basic. I know I would get a soap party if my platoon finds out I am gay. You need to be careful if that is your motivation because you will get your ass kicked.
  • RaggedyMan

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    Dec 26, 2012 6:36 AM GMT
    join the coast guard.
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    Dec 26, 2012 6:39 AM GMT
    your epiphany is just that...an epiphany...something on which a major decision like joining the armed forces should absolutely NOT be based upon
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    Dec 26, 2012 7:26 AM GMT
    Get back in school!.... The US military is not the employer of last resort any more........the military doesn't want or need "drop outs".....the whole point is to show that you can finish what you started.....icon_cool.gif
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    Dec 26, 2012 7:38 AM GMT
    Talk to a recruiter, see your options, weigh them, and decide if its for you.
    Also talk to others in the service (you can message me if you want).

    Try to ignore "war stories" (like many in this thread) Your experience would not be theirs.
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    Dec 26, 2012 7:39 AM GMT
    Olandew saidEh, I joined on a whim last month. I am a pacifist. Basic has been going great so far but I'm on leave at the moment. I personally cannot wait to go back to summer camp

    BUT... if you are a pacifist, make sure you do fucking fantastic on the ASVAB so you can pick a MOS (for army) that allows you to be a FOBit. Not that it guarantees that you will never see combat, but being in a support job means your likelihood of ever having to fire your weapon drastically drops.

    Another thing to note... I was special. I got over a 120 in every aggregate score on the ASVAB so my counselor worked with me to get me a ship date that was within two weeks. I shopped MOS by ship date, not by job description. If you want a specific job or do bad on the ASVAB, be prepared to wait between three to twelve MONTHS for your basic to start. And pay doesn't start until basic starts. In short... it is NOT an "I am unemployed and need money NOW" fix. It is a commitment and you need to be sure you can live with it.

    And liking men isn't a good thing. I am at "Relaxing Jackson" for basic. I know I would get a soap party if my platoon finds out I am gay. You need to be careful if that is your motivation because you will get your ass kicked.



    I'm a little confused. I'm prior military...you're in Basic now? Yet you're on leave? Yet u joined last month? That doesn't make shit for sense dude.technically you've only earned 1.5 days of leave. Also, they do not hand out leave during basic training, that's ridiculous.

    Anyway...to the poster....those are horrible reasons to join the military. Those are definite benefits but not good reasons. The military deserves intelligent people, who work hard, and will die to protect the freedom and rights of the United States of America and all those who wish for the same human right to be free. The military is not just a day job. It's not McDonalds. It's a lifestyle. You are expected to live up to the highest and most noble standards. It's not something you just do for money.
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    Dec 26, 2012 7:53 AM GMT
    MercuryMax said
    I'm a little confused. I'm prior military...you're in Basic now? Yet you're on leave? Yet u joined last month? That doesn't make shit for sense dude.technically you've only earned 1.5 days of leave. Also, they do not hand out leave during basic training, that's ridiculous.



    The battalion I am in is advancing us leave time during basic. So yeah, I only have 2.5 days of leave, and I am using 14 of them. Meaning I will be caught up on the leave my battalion has allowed in about may. I actually did not know we were going to have Victory Block Leave when I picked my MOS.

    http://www.army.mil/article/93319/Victory_Block_Leave_begins/

    And yeah, I enlisted on the 7th of November and shipped on the 14th of November. I had the counselor at the MEPS station search his database of MOS by training start date. I picked my MOS from the 25 category based on the earliest availability. I got lucky that my Basic started a week after I DEPed in.

    So yeah... I am in Basic. I am on vacation. I go back on the third...
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    Dec 26, 2012 8:46 AM GMT
    lol you better fully think it through before committing to it and make sure that you've considered every other option...................................................that's all I'm gonna say.
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    Dec 26, 2012 9:08 AM GMT
    Well, you might get to:

    Travel the world!

    Meet people!

    Kill them!



    EDIT: Unless you operate drones. You can do that sitting down in Colorado probably.
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    Dec 26, 2012 9:08 AM GMT
    If you lack discipline, self-confidence, and skills, and like being in shape, as well as blowing shit up, being debt free from college, then the military is for you.

    The various branches each have their pros and cons but, most things worth doing are hard, and require discipline, patience, an ability to develop a plan an execute it (or at least follow it).

    Most guys in the military have a discipline, insight, and a discipline, that many others don't. They know (by training) how to think from the front of their brain, rather than the base. However, some military guys, just like to blow shit up and be bullies (we know what they do when they get out).

    The modern military is still boots on the ground, but...now...involves bleeding edge technology that puts those boots further back from the target. (The U.S. military, has, in large part, always won because of its superior technologies developed by the government that have later spun off into the private sector, driving huge leaps in our economy and way of life.)

    You may find that being given guidance, and a goal, for a while, being fit, shooting straight, and running fast, as well as learning how to defend both yourself and country could be a very good thing while your acquire adulthood, and valuable skills.

    You don't need to think of the military in a gay way, but, as gay is now o.k. in the military, yeah....man..gay guys like to blow shit up, too.

    No, doubt, though, the warfare theater is serious business, and...that's part of what you sign up for. You take the good with the bad.

    Most military guys I know, have a deep insight, attention to detail, and maturity that you don't find in a commoner. I've known many; I've lost a few.

    If you happen to be in, say, The Marines, and are a 50 cal gunner...and witness collateral damage (people being turned to pink mist) you cannot be unchanged. That does not mean you'll be crazy, but, you will be changed...forever. If you aren't prepared for that part of the military, and everyone does Basic Training, then, you should not go.

    The Armed Services do much good, but, when an 18 year old sees collateral damage, well, it's not like a frat party......you know. It's serious shit if you end up boots next to target.

    Most of my military friends (actually, with one exception, who keeps re-enlisting) have loved the experience; the relationships; the responsibility; the training; the fitness; blowing shit up.

    I have one friend who will be retiring as a major here soon. Tim is one of the most cool folks I know, and he understands The Military for what it is, and isn't.

    Mostly, it's a job, with no fuck ups allowed. If you can handle that, and wanna get in shape, blow shit up, learn skills, and have lots of friends...DO IT.
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    Dec 26, 2012 9:26 AM GMT
    A couple of posters noted eligibility. Amazing, 75% of everyone of age isn't eligible, because they are too fat, too dumb, or have been a victim of The War on Drugs (criminal drug record / other drug record).
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    Dec 26, 2012 9:51 AM GMT
    Olandew said
    MercuryMax said
    I'm a little confused. I'm prior military...you're in Basic now? Yet you're on leave? Yet u joined last month? That doesn't make shit for sense dude.technically you've only earned 1.5 days of leave. Also, they do not hand out leave during basic training, that's ridiculous.



    The battalion I am in is advancing us leave time during basic. So yeah, I only have 2.5 days of leave, and I am using 14 of them. Meaning I will be caught up on the leave my battalion has allowed in about may. I actually did not know we were going to have Victory Block Leave when I picked my MOS.

    http://www.army.mil/article/93319/Victory_Block_Leave_begins/

    And yeah, I enlisted on the 7th of November and shipped on the 14th of November. I had the counselor at the MEPS station search his database of MOS by training start date. I picked my MOS from the 25 category based on the earliest availability. I got lucky that my Basic started a week after I DEPed in.

    So yeah... I am in Basic. I am on vacation. I go back on the third...


    You are on leave in basic? Must be nice...
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    Dec 26, 2012 10:17 AM GMT
    if there's even a part of you that doubts joining the military, then don't do it. Sometimes things seem like the 'right answer' for us at a certain time, but that doesn't necessarily mean its the path we're suppose to go down. Let the thought sit in your head for awhile - a loong while, give it some time. If you feel the same way a few months/ a year down the road, then consider it (specially, if you don't have any reservations whatsoever between that time).
  • basnik

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    Dec 26, 2012 10:19 AM GMT
    make your life purposeful

    for all of us.

    develop your ART... develop your skills...develop your sense of suppoting community...
    understand the WARS and understadn how battles are done


    understand the protectio of FREEDOM and how that wors it self out with our military


    WE need our military.
    RIGHT NOW ALL OF US HAVE FREEDOMS to EVEN USE THIS WEBSITE and our laws state by state protect us BECAUSE of FREEDOMS...

    ok

    and ...I do not know how to advise..BUT I LOVE EVERYBODY who DIED TO BE a part of the ENGINE OF AMERICAN LIBERTY...

    if that is mixed up with OIL and NATURAL RESOURCE domination around the world, it does not mean the intenton ot risk life is wrongful----

    I have family members who HIDE like TURTLES INTHEIR SHELLS well into their 80'snd that is not purposeful

    we all ened to be pruposeful in our lives....does this help?>
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    Dec 26, 2012 12:02 PM GMT
    Don't be...BLU. icon_wink.gif

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    Dec 26, 2012 1:41 PM GMT
    Funny pick up line I've read:

    "Hey, let's play army. I'll unzip my pants and you can blow the hell out of me...."