Self Acceptance

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    Dec 30, 2012 2:43 AM GMT
    How old were you when you first accepted that fact that you are gay?

    How do you know for sure that you have totally accepted and love yourself for being gay?
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    Dec 30, 2012 2:45 AM GMT
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    Dec 30, 2012 2:49 AM GMT
    Gamerican-

    This was the question that you had but either you found the answer or you learn to forget and not to care icon_rolleyes.gif

    But it is still a part of you from years ago!
  • LEANDRO_NJ

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    Dec 30, 2012 2:50 AM GMT
    No disrespect to the topic, but the video GAMRican posted is too damn funny, hilarious!!
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    Dec 30, 2012 2:52 AM GMT
    LEANDRO_NJ saidNo disrespect to the topic, but the video GAMRican posted is too damn funny, hilarious!!

    It is but only because of the fat baby!
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    Dec 30, 2012 2:56 AM GMT
    Now back to the topic! this self-acceptance gay stuff is getting old!! why in hell would a level headed gay person even question what he already is? self acceptance is self explanatory. I don't see how that should even be a question?
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    Dec 30, 2012 3:02 AM GMT
    LEANDRO_NJ saidNow back to the topic! this self-acceptance gay stuff is getting old!! why in hell would a level headed gay person even question what he already is? self acceptance is self explanatory. I don't see how that should even be a question?


    Because sexuality ties in with your emotion. Not everyone belongs in the stereotypical gay society that is promoted in the media. Not everyone accepted the stereotypical things that gay people do. These are stereotypes but at the same time we can not discount that there are people out there that either not agree or have not had any positive experiences with gay people.
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    Dec 30, 2012 3:19 AM GMT
    Perserverance said
    LEANDRO_NJ saidNow back to the topic! this self-acceptance gay stuff is getting old!! why in hell would a level headed gay person even question what he already is? self acceptance is self explanatory. I don't see how that should even be a question?


    Because sexuality ties in with your emotion. Not everyone belongs in the stereotypical gay society that is promoted in the media. Not everyone accepted the stereotypical things that gay people do. These are stereotypes but at the same time we can not discount that there are people out there that either not agree or have not had any positive experiences with gay people.


    Let me ask you a few questions so that I may give you an answer that hopefully may clear your mind a bit.

    Are you ok with being gay?

    Are you a good person?

    Are you an honest person?

    Have you ever done something wrong?

    Do you care what others say about you?

    What is more important to you, being good or being bad?
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    Dec 30, 2012 3:25 AM GMT
    Are you ok with being gay?
    I guess I am but I have no pride nor I think it is anything awesome. If I can wish I would not choose this life. I have to learn to accept myself.

    Are you a good person?
    Yes....very good compare to most people.

    Are you an honest person?
    Yes...that is one of my core-being.

    Have you ever done something wrong?
    Not really, except arguments but I sorted out with people that I have had.

    Do you care what others say about you?
    I do not really have any problem with anyone. If they are co-worker or good acquaintances then I care about what they say. I like to maintain peace for others and mainly for my inner peace.

    What is more important to you, being good or being bad?
    Being good. There is nothing to get out of being bad in my opinions.
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    Dec 30, 2012 3:28 AM GMT
    GAMRican said

    Can anyone explain the evolutionary advantage of yawning? It seems very common among species but what does it do, exactly?
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    Dec 30, 2012 3:30 AM GMT
    MikeW said
    GAMRican said

    Can anyone explain the evolutionary advantage of yawning? It seems very common among species but what does it do, exactly?

    Oxygenate your brain because you don't have enough.
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    Dec 30, 2012 3:34 AM GMT
    Perserverance said
    MikeW said
    GAMRican said

    Can anyone explain the evolutionary advantage of yawning? It seems very common among species but what does it do, exactly?

    Oxygenate your brain because you don't have enough.


    Wikipedia says: "There are a number of theories that attempt to explain why animals and people yawn.[6][7] It is likely that there are a number of triggers for the behavior. However, there are a few theories that attempt to explain the primary evolutionary reason for the yawn. None of them has been empirically substantiated. ..."
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    Dec 30, 2012 3:37 AM GMT
    MikeW said
    Perserverance said
    MikeW said
    GAMRican said

    Can anyone explain the evolutionary advantage of yawning? It seems very common among species but what does it do, exactly?

    Oxygenate your brain because you don't have enough.


    Wikipedia says: "There are a number of theories that attempt to explain why animals and people yawn.[6][7] It is likely that there are a number of triggers for the behavior. However, there are a few theories that attempt to explain the primary evolutionary reason for the yawn. None of them has been empirically substantiated. ..."

    What is your motive for doing this?
    If you are trying to cheer the the thread up then i appreciate your genuine thought.
    If you are trying to make fun of me then shame on you. That was rude.
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    Dec 30, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
    Perserverance saidAre you ok with being gay?
    I guess I am but I have no pride nor I think it is anything awesome. If I can wish I would not choose this life. I have to learn to accept myself.

    Are you a good person?
    Yes....very good compare to most people.

    Are you an honest person?
    Yes...that is one of my core-being.

    Have you ever done something wrong?
    Not really, except arguments but I sorted out with people that I have had.

    Do you care what others say about you?
    I do not really have any problem with anyone. If they are co-worker or good acquaintances then I care about what they say. I like to maintain peace for others and mainly for my inner peace.

    What is more important to you, being good or being bad?
    Being good. There is nothing to get out of being bad in my opinions.



    Thank you kindly for your response! and please know that is not my intention to ridicule or put you on the spot; that's just not my style! I will be back in a bit in response to your answers.
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    Dec 30, 2012 5:03 AM GMT
    Perserverance said
    MikeW said
    Perserverance said
    MikeW said
    GAMRican said

    Can anyone explain the evolutionary advantage of yawning? It seems very common among species but what does it do, exactly?

    Oxygenate your brain because you don't have enough.


    Wikipedia says: "There are a number of theories that attempt to explain why animals and people yawn.[6][7] It is likely that there are a number of triggers for the behavior. However, there are a few theories that attempt to explain the primary evolutionary reason for the yawn. None of them has been empirically substantiated. ..."

    What is your motive for doing this?
    If you are trying to cheer the the thread up then i appreciate your genuine thought.
    If you are trying to make fun of me then shame on you. That was rude.


    What is your motive for starting this (and other threads)?
    If you are trying to cheer up the the RealJock, then appreciate yore genuien thought.
    If you are trying to insult people under guise of showing concern, then shame on you. That is rude.

    In any case, may peace exists in the tortured sole.

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    Dec 30, 2012 5:16 AM GMT
    Perserverance saidAre you ok with being gay?
    I guess I am but I have no pride nor I think it is anything awesome. If I can wish I would not choose this life. I have to learn to accept myself.

    Being gay or whatever you feel most comfortable being have nothing to do with having pride, being humble at accepting who you are, with virtues or flaws, is by far more important!! You cannot choose nor change how life created you into being; there are very valuable things in everything that you are whether it be good or bad! How many times have you tried to change who you are, to only grow more and more frustrated and confused just by trying! if you believe in God, and I know you do!? please know that he/she doesn't judge or even dare interfere with your personal growth. He knows that everything that you do or are, no matter how good or bad others perceive it to be, in his eyes there is no good or evil but only moments of enlightenment to make you a better person.

    Are you a good person?
    Yes....very good compare to most people.

    People in general are good! and yes it may sound naive of me to say so, but I tend to look at the positive side of people, and believe me we all have it. You are not an exception, because the moment you start thinking that you are better then the average person, you than become no better yourself even if there is a good reason that others aren't as good as you. Gosh you of all people should know something about it; as I base this on Asian wisdom

    Are you an honest person?
    Yes...that is one of my core-being.

    Honesty like outer beauty is often better perceived in the eye of the beholder. Let me explain! if you care so much about the opinion of those close to you, who according to you care more about you then any gay person ever would!? what make you think that most if not all the gay guys on Realjock don't care about you? guys here know what you are feeling because like you they live it. They also care more about you because they know what you are going through
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    Have you ever done something wrong?
    Not really, except arguments but I sorted out with people that I have had.

    I had my share of having done bad choices, and hurt a few good people along the way; and yet because of those wrong doings I have grown into a much happier and better person. Sometimes it helps to do bad or be bad in order know what is good

    Do you care what others say about you?
    I do not really have any problem with anyone. If they are co-worker or good acquaintances then I care about what they say. I like to maintain peace for others and mainly for my inner peace.

    Good for you! I am glad you have build a space of outer and inner peace with the world; you are what I like to refer as "a person who was borned with a Silver Spoon in his mouth" no pun intended here!! As for me the outer and inner peace I have come to possess I owed it to the many starving days my heart, mind, and soul had growing up.

    What is more important to you, being good or being bad?
    Being good. There is nothing to get out of being bad in my opinions.


    Personally, the notion that all that is good helps you become a good person yourself is not a good model to rely on? all it does is to let you see the world one sided! my friend life as you and I know it is made up of three dimensional forces: good, bad, and none of the two!! "none of the two" is the only place you will find true and everlasting peace and goodness.. I don't expect you to understand that, because you haven't lived long enough to know what I am talking about. One thing I have learned in my mature age is to be compassionate with what most people perceive as bad. This kind of attitude helps me better accept things or people I have yet to fully understand!

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    Dec 30, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
    How old were you when you first accepted that fact that you are gay?

    -I admitted I was gay when I was 17. Accepting it is a gruesome process; I don't know exactly when that happened, but I think it did.

    How do you know for sure that you have totally accepted and love yourself for being gay?

    -Because I don't question what others think about my sexual preference nor do I question what others' sexual preference is. There's more important things in life.
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    Dec 30, 2012 2:03 PM GMT
    Bet you never thought self denial could get you anywhere. Give up the cock, marry a women, shut your mouth... oh, you'll get far... or will you? o/0
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    Dec 30, 2012 2:37 PM GMT
    It is still in pending.
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    Dec 30, 2012 2:46 PM GMT
    When ? it was so gradual I never had to accept it, or if I did, I guess it was not important enough a decision that I remember it.

    How do I know ?
    I don't really care, it was never a goal or a problem to accept my sexuality, call me lucky.
    As for loving myself for being gay, I don't, because I don't care about loving myself.

    But I accept totally that my partner is gay, and I love him for being gay (between other reasons).
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    Dec 30, 2012 4:09 PM GMT
    GAMRican said

    What is your motive for starting this (and other threads)?
    If you are trying to cheer up the the RealJock, then appreciate yore genuien thought.
    If you are trying to insult people under guise of showing concern, then shame on you. That is rude.

    In any case, may peace exists in the tortured sole.

    - Wow that was rude. I thought you were a nice person. You are old enough to be my dad but you are so sassy with your attitude it's unbelievable. I am not creating this thread to cheer any one up but just to ask questions. If you want to think I am insulting people then think that way.
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    Dec 30, 2012 4:13 PM GMT
    Perserverance said[quote][cite]GAMRican said

    What is your motive for starting this (and other threads)?
    If you are trying to cheer up the the RealJock, then appreciate yore genuien thought.
    If you are trying to insult people under guise of showing concern, then shame on you. That is rude.

    In any case, may peace exists in the tortured sole.

    Wow that was rude. I thought you were a nice person. You are old enough to be my dad but you are so sassy with your attitude it's unbelievable. I am not creating this thread to cheer any one up but just to ask questions. If you want to think I am insulting people then think that way.

    Sassy daddies are hot. Try one icon_cool.gif
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    Dec 30, 2012 4:17 PM GMT
    JRaRJ saidBet you never thought self denial could get you anywhere. Give up the cock, marry a women, shut your mouth... oh, you'll get far... or will you? o/0


    Yes, OP should consider conforming to Asian tradition and listen to his parents when they say, "When you get mawied? Why you have no giwlfwend? You no get any youngah!" Going against the Asian parents, causes no peace to exists in their tortured souls. Feeling this void, they begin to torture you.

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    Dec 30, 2012 4:21 PM GMT
    LEANDRO_NJ said
    Let me ask you a few questions so that I may give you an answer that hopefully may clear your mind a bit.

    Are you ok with being gay?

    Are you a good person?

    Are you an honest person?

    Have you ever done something wrong?

    Do you care what others say about you?

    What is more important to you, being good or being bad?

    Leandro, my love, nice to see your post! Happy Holidays! icon_biggrin.gif

    Back to business: your matrix is very similar to the one I applied to myself when I initially understood I was gay, and not straight as I had long imagined.

    At first I wasn't sure I wanted to accept a verdict of gay - most of society seemed opposed to gays, and I didn't like being on the losing team, nor one with such an unsavory reputation.

    But I turned the argument around: I know I'm a good person, per your questions. That's a known constant I believe in. I'm honest, don't do bad things (I'll be doing the Boy Scout pledge in a minute icon_rolleyes.gif ), and so if I'm gay, then maybe not all gays are as bad and morally awful as I'd always heard? Maybe gays are good guys, too, and I shouldn't be ashamed to be one.

    Perhaps a bit of mental trickery, some logic gaming, but it worked for me. And from that moment, and I literally mean that same day, I've been happy & proud to be gay, haven't regretted it for a minute.icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 30, 2012 4:31 PM GMT
    I appreciate the meaningful input that some of you provided.

    To answer my questionI think I accepted myself when I was 20.

    I accepted myself for who I am. Sometimes I questioned my self for being gay due to the fact that I see so many negative things with the gay population that I have met. I know this seems very stereotypical but the nice and kind people I have met 90% in my life are straight people. The other 10% that I have met are gay people who were mean and nasty. They were not mean to me but the way they talk about other people are just rude, superficial, promiscuous, and condescending. I guess sometimes I have have a feeling like I do not want to be in a group associate with those behaviors. I know this sound judgemental but I am working on it.

    I believe that there are nice gay people but from my experience, there are not that many. It could also be the fact that i see people on here from there comments than in real life. All of my friends or people that I know of are straight so I understand my experience is limited and I will try to be open minded.

    I believe my experience will change as I meet more gay people, but who we are as a person is based on the experiences we had in the past.