To Tip or Not to Tip

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    Dec 30, 2012 4:59 AM GMT
    Do other guys give an "Xmas tip" to the newspaper delivery person? They are leaving Xmas cards with their name, etc, on them, hoping. It's not like in ancient times, when papers were delivered by high school or younger kids on bikes or on foot, earning money for college. Where I live, the newspapers contract out the delivery to some other company, which then sub-contracts out the delivery of routes to individuals who supply their own cars and pay for their own gas, and get paid per each paper delivered. The "delivery persons" (no longer "paper boys") are in business for themselves. Yet they all want a christmas present. I grew up with the notion that one tipped those lowly paid workers (ususally an employee of some business) who served us, like waiters, bellboys in hotels, maids on cruise ships, etc. If one was "paying " a businessman for a service", one never gave an additional "tip."
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    Dec 30, 2012 5:13 AM GMT
    My parents used to leave a card and small tip for the newspaper and mail carriers during the holidays. I grew up in a small town where post employees were the same and stayed at their job for a long time.

    I don't believe my folks do that anymore since they moved a few years ago.
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    Dec 30, 2012 5:29 AM GMT
    Up to you. Do they deliver the papers on your doorstep? Or do they just drive by and toss it on your lawn or driveway?

    Have you met any of them? Same guy for X years? Or different guy every month?
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    Dec 30, 2012 6:27 PM GMT
    Dunno. I've always been really uncomfortable with the whole idea. (Possibly because for most of my life, my income has been far less than that of the people who expect me to give them tips. And nobody gives any to me...) A debate recently erupted on another site about whether one should tip gas station attendants. (I live in one of those weird places where it is illegal to pump your own gas.) It never even occurred to me... icon_eek.gif
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    Dec 30, 2012 6:48 PM GMT
    When my mother was living with me, we lived at the end of a rather long driveway. The paper boy lived behind us and he would bring the paper up to the door so my mother could get it and not have to wait for me to get home or have her try and walk down the driveway to get it. We tipped him well for doing this. At about the time she passed away, they switched to someone who drove the route and would only put the paper in the tube under the mail box. I stopped tipping when that happened as we had someone different quite often daily. I get the paper online, so i do not have delivery any more. Use your judgement. If they deliver every day and get it there on time and have the same person daily. I might give them a little something.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Dec 30, 2012 8:16 PM GMT
    Not unless you're actually on day-to-day friendly terms.
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    Dec 30, 2012 8:33 PM GMT
    I tip the mail carrier, because he always has to get off his jeep to leave the mail in the mailbox, because of trucks blocking the mailbox. Also the WM guys, specially after Xmas with all the extra garbage.
  • Webster666

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    Dec 30, 2012 9:42 PM GMT
    For me, anyone asking for a tip, isn't going to get a tip.

    I leave a Christmas card, with cash, for my mailman.
    I do the same for my barber.
    I give chocolates to my chiropractor (I know he loves chocolate).

    BTW, I don't subscribe to a newspaper.
    I get a free one dropped at my doorstep, two days a week.
    I get most of my news on line.

    I hate, hate, hate restaurant tipping.
    I want the restaurant owners to pay their staff a living wage.
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    Dec 30, 2012 9:45 PM GMT
    I suddenly had a light-bulb go off.

    Teachers provide a service. Maybe we should get a tip at the end of the semester if we did a good job. lol...

    (Obviously, this should happen after grades are posted.) icon_cool.gif
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    Dec 30, 2012 9:48 PM GMT
    No one ever went broke from showing a bit of kindness.
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    Dec 30, 2012 10:08 PM GMT
    I will tip those who go the extra mile in their job, but not if it is expected as I have already paid you once.
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    Dec 30, 2012 10:17 PM GMT
    thatirishbastard saidNo one ever went broke from showing a bit of kindness.

    I agree
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    Dec 30, 2012 10:28 PM GMT
    Tip. It's good karma. Example:

    I have a straight female friend who's real "granola" - all about Buddhism, unicorns, veganism and sending gooey online Jacqueline Lawson cards for any and all occasions. Yet she's also more dramatic and complaining than any gay I know. In the past four years she stiffed folk on tips right and left, divorced, bought out her run down house from her ex and sold it at a huge profit direct without a broker, lost three jobs she hated, relocated twice and in the interim fulfilled a lifelong dream overpaying for an 18 year old thoroughbred horse that went up for sale after she paid to ride him, exercising him for his owners, for years. As the gay BFF you can imagine I heard an earful.

    I reminded her that when she stiffed her garbagemen on their tip two years earlier they left a steaming pile of shit on top of her garbage can. Then when she was panicking about her house and I was helping her fix it up and stage it for sale a neighbor referred someone who wanted to be in the neighborhood near their inlaws (free babysitting) so those prospective buyers paid her asking price when nothing was selling before she even contracted a broker. She thanked the referring neighbor with a plateful of brownies, who in turn went postal, demanded an unexpected $10,000 referral fee, and threatened her so much that my friend considered taking out a restraining order. Finally after renting a year she almost bought a house with a broker she'd been working with for 18 months who found her a great deal on a rare small turnkey renovated property in a wealthy neighborhood but she wanted him to negotiate his fee down for the seller, another divorced woman, so she could get it for even less; he then continued showing it and sold it for more to yet another divorced woman.

    I told her the universe may have been trying to tell her something.

    So tip!


  • unicoman1

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    Dec 30, 2012 10:36 PM GMT
    Always tip!

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    Dec 30, 2012 10:40 PM GMT
    blasiankid said
    thatirishbastard saidNo one ever went broke from showing a bit of kindness.

    I agree

    Indeed. And a lot of these people live on their tips. Sometimes I give a tip under unconventional circumstances. For instance:

    - I pull into a handicapped space, but within the valet parking zone. I still tip the guy, so he looks after my car along with the others. And so that he isn't denied his tip just because I'm handicapped, entitled to the free space by law, parking myself.
    - I order a special drink at my table with dinner. I tip the server for the meal, but as I leave I also give a separate tip to the bartender who made my drink, even though the drink charge was on my dinner tab.
    - I tip the maitre d' for seating us, when I call ahead for a specific table. A very NYC habit.
    - I bought a large Christmas gift at Williams-Sonoma a few weeks ago, and a sales associate carried it to my car, observing that I'm handicapped. Naturally I gave him a tip. I could see he was shocked.

    I expect nothing for free. If you aid me, give me some service, I compensate you. I really am that old fashioned.
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    Dec 30, 2012 10:41 PM GMT
    Tip more if you liked the service. But always tip
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    Dec 30, 2012 11:00 PM GMT
    Ahem, well I overtip waiters/waitresses even though I'm a broke college kid. However, someone's reasoning on here for tipping was "it's good karma?" I personally don't like that thinking process, or people who believe in karma in general. So your saying your primary motivator for leaving someone a tip is because YOU will benefit from it, because that's what karma boils down to. It's selfish. You only do the right thing because in the long run you get something out of it? Well I do the right thing, tip people, don't screw people over, etc., not because I believe in karma, but because it's the right thing to do and I'm not a shithead.

    I don't understand how people even believe in karma. You think the universe will slightly bend to your will and hook you up somehow because you helped that old lady cross the street, or gave the bank teller the extra $20 he accidentally handed to you when you made that withdrawal? That line of thinking is exactly the same as children's who believe in being nice or naughty and thus Santa Clause will reward you with a gift eventually. Karma is a fairy tale for children who need to be told to be good or else bad things will happen to you. In my opinion.

    Sorry I know I got wayyy off topic about tipping. But yeah, tip.
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    Dec 31, 2012 1:07 AM GMT
    We tip the mailman and the trash haulers, and the recycling haulers, too.
  • LJay

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    Dec 31, 2012 1:12 AM GMT
    OP, while I generally agree that taking care of the service help is a good thing, I think that in this particular situation you should offer the shaft instead of the tip. Sounds to me like the carrier is begging.
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    Dec 31, 2012 1:19 AM GMT
    Webster666 said

    I hate, hate, hate restaurant tipping.
    I want the restaurant owners to pay their staff a living wage.


    This!

    We've moved beyond feudalism -- gifting ought to be a recognition of something genuine shared between two people/entities/whatever.
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    Dec 31, 2012 1:27 AM GMT
    I always leave a tip for services rendered especially during the holidays. Its not the amount that counts its letting someone know you apprieciate them. Why be cheep?
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    Dec 31, 2012 1:54 AM GMT
    IAmTheOneWhoKnocks saidHowever, someone's reasoning on here for tipping was "it's good karma?" I personally don't like that thinking process, or people who believe in karma in general. So your saying your primary motivator for leaving someone a tip is because YOU will benefit from it, because that's what karma boils down to. It's selfish. You only do the right thing because in the long run you get something out of it? Well I do the right thing, tip people, don't screw people over, etc., not because I believe in karma, but because it's the right thing to do and I'm not a shithead.

    I don't understand how people even believe in karma. You think the universe will slightly bend to your will and hook you up somehow because you helped that old lady cross the street, or gave the bank teller the extra $20 he accidentally handed to you when you made that withdrawal? That line of thinking is exactly the same as children's who believe in being nice or naughty and thus Santa Clause will reward you with a gift eventually. Karma is a fairy tale for children who need to be told to be good or else bad things will happen to you. In my opinion.

    Sorry I know I got wayyy off topic about tipping. But yeah, tip.

    I think you missed the intended irony of that post. My FRIEND THE BUDDHIST was the believer in and proponent of karma YET stiffed people on tips, who reacted by literally shitting on her property, threatening her physically and selling what would have been her house out from under her, and speaking in her language I told her the universe may have been trying to tell her something. There's a reason I also put that in bold.