Is tech stealing the soul of San Francisco?

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    Dec 31, 2012 8:34 AM GMT
    http://www.modernluxury.com/san-francisco/story/how-much-tech-can-one-city-take
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    Dec 31, 2012 9:08 AM GMT
    I never understood the appeal of San Francisco as a technology hub. Most of these start-ups originated in someone's bedroom or basement. Really, all you need is decent internet connection and you can operate your dot-com anywhere. Why pay astronomical prices on SF office space, when you can use that money to hire talent? There are tech sectors in West LA, Orange County, and San Diego. Much more affordable to operate a business and much more affordable for your employees to live in.
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    Dec 31, 2012 9:18 AM GMT
    xrichx saidI never understood the appeal of San Francisco as a technology hub. Most of these start-ups originated in someone's bedroom or basement. Really, all you need is decent internet connection and you can operate your dot-com anywhere. Why pay astronomical prices on SF office space, when you can use that money to hire talent? There are tech sectors in West LA, Orange County, and San Diego. Much more affordable to operate a business and much more affordable for your employees to live in.


    We're geting a fair amount of it back here where it costs $100 to maybe $150 / ft., but I can understand why folks wouldn't want to do that given that it's Dec 31st. Not much appeal to midwest winters at least to me after 30 years in Socal.
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    Dec 31, 2012 9:22 AM GMT
    Austin, TX has a tech sector that's growing as well. But I think California weather just wins every time.
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    Dec 31, 2012 9:32 AM GMT
    xrichx saidAustin, TX has a tech sector that's growing as well. But I think California weather just wins every time.


    And that's why I'm coming back out there after nature takes its course with my parents.
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    Dec 31, 2012 3:14 PM GMT
    xrichx saidAustin, TX has a tech sector that's growing as well. But I think California weather just wins every time.
    If I had a choice between relocating to Austin or to San Francisco, I would gladly take San Francisco without question. Austin is horrendously overrated and overpriced. San Francisco is very expensive but it is a very beautiful and very diverse city with a cool, comfortable climate.
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    Dec 31, 2012 3:32 PM GMT
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    xrichx saidAustin, TX has a tech sector that's growing as well. But I think California weather just wins every time.
    If I had a choice between relocating to Austin or to San Francisco, I would gladly take San Francisco without question. Austin is horrendously overrated and overpriced. San Francisco is very expensive but it is a very beautiful and very diverse city with a cool, comfortable climate.


    Even I would take SF. Plus they need a few more "bible thumping" right wing neocons God damn fundi tea baggers around those parts.

    I'm sure I would bring some levity and entertainment to the gay bay.

    I would almost prefer here over Austin as I don't mind the cold as much as day after day of 100+ temps.
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    Dec 31, 2012 3:53 PM GMT
    Please... No more Californians in Austin!
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    Dec 31, 2012 4:14 PM GMT
    Myol saidPlease... No more Californians in Austin!
    If it were not for the Californians, Austin would have never developed a high tech sector and would have remained a rinky dink capitol city halfway between San Antonio and Waco.
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    Dec 31, 2012 5:11 PM GMT
    Hmm. What the techies report liking is the diversity of the city and what they don't like is the crime. Have they ever lived in a city before? I live in a part of town where I carry a glass bottle with me in-hand when I walk home at night. You adjust to the sketchiness. The techies will just have to put down their gadgets (if possible) when trouncing around the city.
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    Dec 31, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
    Myol saidPlease... No more Californians in Austin!


    70 years ago the Californians were screaming no more Texans in California.
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    Dec 31, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
    Yogi567 saidHmm. What the techies report liking is the diversity of the city and what they don't like is the crime. Have they ever lived in a city before? I live in a part of town where I carry a glass bottle with me in-hand when I walk home at night. You adjust to the sketchiness. The techies will just have to put down their gadgets (if possible) when trouncing around the city.


    Dunno, I've never felt remotely unsafe in SF.
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    Dec 31, 2012 5:44 PM GMT
    I think within the next few years we'll see large shifts to other areas of the country. For example Chattanooga is offering serious perks to professionals in the tech industry. Also, Kansas City is the only place in the world that currently has Google Fiber. I feel like an internet connection at that speed would be tempting for tech companies.
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    Dec 31, 2012 5:45 PM GMT
    I am considering Austin as the next chapter . . .
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    Jan 04, 2013 2:28 PM GMT
    Hawk_Guy13 saidI think within the next few years we'll see large shifts to other areas of the country. For example Chattanooga is offering serious perks to professionals in the tech industry. Also, Kansas City is the only place in the world that currently has Google Fiber. I feel like an internet connection at that speed would be tempting for tech companies.


    Don't get too excited, its still Kansas City...
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    Jan 04, 2013 3:15 PM GMT
    FitGwynedd said

    Don't get too excited, its still Kansas City...

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    Jan 04, 2013 3:49 PM GMT
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    Yogi567 saidHmm. What the techies report liking is the diversity of the city and what they don't like is the crime. Have they ever lived in a city before? I live in a part of town where I carry a glass bottle with me in-hand when I walk home at night. You adjust to the sketchiness. The techies will just have to put down their gadgets (if possible) when trouncing around the city.


    Dunno, I've never felt remotely unsafe in SF.


    Really? I have. There are some pretty sketch areas.
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    Jan 04, 2013 3:50 PM GMT
    Myol saidPlease... No more Californians in Austin!


    Then tell your state to stop running ads here encouraging people to move there.
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    Jan 04, 2013 4:16 PM GMT
    I think the earthquake factor is going to eventually disperse the tech industry to other areas of the country.
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    Jan 04, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    xrichx saidI never understood the appeal of San Francisco as a technology hub. ...There are tech sectors in West LA, Orange County, and San Diego. Much more affordable to operate a business and much more affordable for your employees to live in.
    Ah, you're just bitter that the Giants won the World Series! LOL
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    Jan 04, 2013 4:38 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    Dunno, I've never felt remotely unsafe in SF.

    Really? I have. There are some pretty sketch areas.

    I don't know, I work there every day and just bought a condo there and I've never really felt too unsafe. It's a major city so of course there will be some areas that are more dangerous than others but all in all, it's pretty safe.

    As for earthquakes, non factor when you consider the weather and disasters that the rest of the country faces on a very regular basis. Hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding, freezing, drought, snow. The once every ten year earthquake pales in comparison. SF is liberal, energized and trendy, making it very attractive to the younger tech market, unfortunately with the wealth in that market, it has driven up the cost of housing unbelievably.
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    Jan 04, 2013 4:45 PM GMT
    eb925guy said
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    freedomisntfree said
    Dunno, I've never felt remotely unsafe in SF.

    Really? I have. There are some pretty sketch areas.

    I don't know, I work there every day and just bought a condo there and I've never really felt too unsafe. It's a major city so of course there will be some areas that are more dangerous than others but all in all, it's pretty safe.

    As for earthquakes, non factor when you consider the weather and disasters that the rest of the country faces on a very regular basis. Hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding, freezing, drought, snow. The once every ten year earthquake pales in comparison. SF is liberal, energized and trendy, making it very attractive to the younger tech market, unfortunately with the wealth in that market, it has driven up the cost of housing unbelievably.


    I use to live in NYC and felt the same way. It was basically safe. Its been a while since i have been in a city set up like SF and NYC. I do like visiting SF. could never live there.
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    Jan 04, 2013 5:50 PM GMT
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    Yogi567 saidHmm. What the techies report liking is the diversity of the city and what they don't like is the crime. Have they ever lived in a city before? I live in a part of town where I carry a glass bottle with me in-hand when I walk home at night. You adjust to the sketchiness. The techies will just have to put down their gadgets (if possible) when trouncing around the city.


    Dunno, I've never felt remotely unsafe in SF.


    Really? I have. There are some pretty sketch areas.


    Every city has them. Columbus has a few that are just as bad as anywhere else. SF has been fine the 40 or 50 times I've been there.
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    Jan 04, 2013 5:52 PM GMT
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    Yogi567 saidHmm. What the techies report liking is the diversity of the city and what they don't like is the crime. Have they ever lived in a city before? I live in a part of town where I carry a glass bottle with me in-hand when I walk home at night. You adjust to the sketchiness. The techies will just have to put down their gadgets (if possible) when trouncing around the city.


    Dunno, I've never felt remotely unsafe in SF.


    You must not have to walk home late at night in the tenderloin.
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    Jan 05, 2013 2:22 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidI never understood the appeal of San Francisco as a technology hub. ...There are tech sectors in West LA, Orange County, and San Diego. Much more affordable to operate a business and much more affordable for your employees to live in.
    Ah, you're just bitter that the Giants won the World Series! LOL
    LOL. We're only good at basketball. And apparently hockey. icon_lol.gif