Rice Containing Human Genes Being Grown in Kansas!

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    Jan 02, 2013 2:07 AM GMT
    http://worldtruth.tv/human-genes-engineered-into-experimental-gmo-rice-being-grown-in-kansas/
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    Jan 02, 2013 2:19 AM GMT
    Cool ... does it scream when you boil it? icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 02, 2013 2:29 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidCool ... does it scream when you boil it? icon_lol.gif



    I wish I could laugh at this, but tampering with our food supply is something I take very seriously. You cant even eat anything anymore without wondering if each bite is slowly killing you.
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    Jan 02, 2013 2:43 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    AMoonHawk saidCool ... does it scream when you boil it? icon_lol.gif



    I wish I could laugh at this, but tampering with our food supply is something I take very seriously. You cant even eat anything anymore without wondering if each bite is slowly killing you.


    They can only grow this rice on specified land and for pharmaceutical purposes.

    So it seems.
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    Jan 02, 2013 2:50 AM GMT
    TheBizMan said
    Scruffypup said
    AMoonHawk saidCool ... does it scream when you boil it? icon_lol.gif



    I wish I could laugh at this, but tampering with our food supply is something I take very seriously. You cant even eat anything anymore without wondering if each bite is slowly killing you.


    They can only grow this rice on specified land and for pharmaceutical purposes.

    So it seems.



    .....so it seems. But we both know this is just the introductory stage.
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    Jan 02, 2013 2:51 AM GMT
    CANNIBALS!
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    Jan 02, 2013 2:52 AM GMT
    Not cool. DNA is "code". We're messing with the "code" and ignoring the irreversible consequences of contaminating the human genome.
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    Jan 02, 2013 2:55 AM GMT
    until pollen is carried by bees and wind to other fields

    I agree that you have wonder about screwing around with nature, but the fact is that humans are actually living longer then they used to, so it could also be due to genetic manipulation of plants.... They've been doing it for quite a while. But I also wonder if that is why the population in the US is so overweight.
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    Jan 02, 2013 2:57 AM GMT
    GAMRican saidNot cool. DNA is "code". We're messing with the "code" and ignoring the irreversible consequences of contaminating the human genome.

    And then maybe that is a good thing .. maybe we are building stronger, smarter more disease resistant humans ... since I'm not a scientist and I have maybe 30 or 40 years to go - if I'm lucky (50 or 60 max) I'll let the watch groups worry about it
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    Jan 02, 2013 4:33 AM GMT
    IT'S MADE OF PEOPLE!
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    Jan 02, 2013 4:44 AM GMT
    You are what you eat.
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    Jan 02, 2013 5:34 AM GMT
    xrichx saidIT'S MADE OF PEOPLE!


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    Jan 02, 2013 5:45 AM GMT
    Say no to GMO's.
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    Jan 02, 2013 5:51 AM GMT
    Of course, they used Justin Bieber's genes, to try to be trendy.icon_rolleyes.gif
  • TheAlchemixt

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    Jan 02, 2013 5:59 AM GMT
    This sounds nasty.
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    Jan 02, 2013 6:16 AM GMT
    The Romans never figured out that their new high tech plumbing systems were slowing killing them. The piping was made from lead.
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    Jan 02, 2013 6:57 AM GMT
    Alpha13 saidThe Romans never figured out that their new high tech plumbing systems were slowing killing them. The piping was made from lead.


    Well, we already know that any genetically modified product for consumption poses risks. Those risks haven't necessarily been 100% quantified, but the deterioration of our society's overall health could be a clear indication, no matter how much longer we are supposedly living.
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    Jan 02, 2013 8:27 AM GMT
    The article does bring up valid concerns, but it gets buried underneath all the biased language. So let's introduce some facts into this discussion instead of knee-jerk boogymen responses.

    The strain(s) of rice has been modified to produce two genes found in humans: lactoferrin and lysozyme. A quick glance at the wikipedia pages for these two genes produces the following:

    On lactoferrin...
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactoferrin)
    Lactoferrin is one of the components of the immune system of the body; it has antimicrobial activity (bacteriocide, fungicide) and is part of the innate defense, mainly at mucoses. In particular, lactoferrin provides antibacterial activity to human infants.

    On lysozyme...
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysozyme)
    Lysozyme is abundant in a number of secretions, such as tears, saliva, human milk, and mucus.
    ...
    Lysozyme is part of the innate immune system.



    My guess is that the proteins coded by these genes are used to treat bacteria-related diseases. The company is probably using a recombinant strain of rice to mass-produce these proteins for either research and development purposes or to sell.

    Expressing recombinant genes in other species is a common technique in pharmacological research. For example, in grad school, I worked on projects that had me expressing mouse genes in human cell lines. A more common technique for mass production of proteins would be expressing mammalian genes in bacteria which can be efficiently grown in large quantities. But obviously there will be problems with trying to express proteins that have anti-microbial properties in bacteria.

    It is also important to note that these two genes are most likely encoded in the DNA of other organisms. And the difference between the human version of these genes and their other non-human versions are likely not significantly different from each other. (This is my speculation. I don't know the gritty details about these two genes.)

    So while the phrase "rice with human traits" is technically true, it's a grossly misleading buzz phrase used to incite an emotional response of disgust or unease.

    As with any drug (whether synthetic or natural), there are risks and side-effects to consumption. And the possibility of contamination of crops intended for food consumption by a crop that is intended for pharmaceutical production is a legitimate concern. Another possible concern would be facilitating the evolution of more antimicrobial-resistant strains of bacteria. But the biggest concern of all is how some people seem to base their ideas of food safety on nebulous definitions about what is "natural" and what isn't. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 02, 2013 8:37 AM GMT
    Bromoflexual, you brain is sexy ;-)
    Really, sometime reading solid common sens gives me a sort of intellectual erection !
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    Jan 02, 2013 8:44 AM GMT
    That is disturbing. I also cannot stand how to eat healthy you have to shell out some serious dough. It also annoys me that to buy foods with less preservatives and chemicals we have to pay more icon_evil.gif
  • monstapex

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    Jan 02, 2013 8:52 AM GMT
    these jeans contain human rice


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    Jerry Rice Jr. celebrates his birthday with his dad,Jerry Rice Sr, in Las Vegas.
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    Jan 02, 2013 8:54 AM GMT
    Really a danger to us. GMO crops pose not only a danger to humans, through consumption, but also to the bees, and the honey which the bees produce ergo, widespread DNA encoding to countless other crops through cross pollination.... As the article stated, the effects of the GMO rice are the susceptibility to many other life threatening diseases. Imagine how dangerous this will be if the cross pollination takes place with the already GMO crops of corn which causes tumors!! This will be catastrophic!! . I mean, come on!!! Gene encoding form the Human liver??? WTF are these wacko's thinking?
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    Jan 02, 2013 8:57 AM GMT
    RoccoO saidI mean, come on!!! Gene encoding form the Human liver??? WTF are these wacko's thinking?


    ^^ See my above response.
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    Jan 02, 2013 9:10 AM GMT
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    Alpha13 saidThe Romans never figured out that their new high tech plumbing systems were slowing killing them. The piping was made from lead.


    Well, we already know that any genetically modified product for consumption poses risks. Those risks haven't necessarily been 100% quantified, but the deterioration of our society's overall health could be a clear indication, no matter how much longer we are supposedly living.


    This type of argument is silly.

    This action poses risks.
    Therefore this action should not be done.

    Walking down the street poses risks. Sex with anyone poses risks.

    Here is the thing, if you "borrow" say, frost resistant genes from russian winter wheat and want to insert it into tomatoes, the proteins, glycoproteins and other organic compounds that are in the tomatoes are in no way different than the ones you would find in the winter wheat. If the winter wheat was safe to consume, there is nothing wrong with tomatoes with wheat genes.

    The only issues stem from borrowing bizarre genes from bizarre creatures and inserting it into, say, your broccoli.

    The risk is that while we can often identify which genes do which things (stuff like frost resistance) it is difficult to identify and quantify what compounds are produced as the result of addition. So if you are allergic to wheat gluten, it would be smart to not eat foods that do not have genes from wheat.

    While I'm all for labeling of GMOs, especially if genes are from foods are that typically allergic, people who blindly label all GMOs as bad are just as stupid as those who don't know what they are.
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    Jan 02, 2013 9:40 AM GMT
    ^^Ah, well, thanks for the lecture, oh all-intelligent one.

    The fact is, if tomatoes were meant to be frost resistant, then they would be frost resistant. What is your scientific evidence to show that the frost resistant compounds of winter wheat does not adversely interact with compounds in tomatoes? Have you conducted your own studies in the laboratories in your basement?

    Equating the risks of sex and walking on the same lines as consuming or being exposed to genetically modified foods is insane. I kindly did not use the word "stupid".

    "This action poses risks". You're flipping right it does. Companies are modifying our food supply and making claims that these modifications are safe and okay for public consumptions. Yet, illness rates are on the rise. I'm sure you're going to tell me that there's no evidence of a direct correlation between the two. Well, go ahead and believe that.