Like Seriously? :O [Calling all Mariah Carey fans]

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    Jan 02, 2013 12:00 PM GMT
    I just got back from an exam today and opened up youtube to doodle for a bit, listening to some music for a while. Always relaxes me.

    But Look what I found...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_0O1rSXqY

    Any Mariah Carey fan who can sing KNOWS how hard it is to sing this song, apart from the whistle notes [Do any of you guys use that register to sing? :S]

    I`m in love with this guy cause I`ve been working on my range since I was 16 and had a music lull for a bit and now that I`m getting back to singing, this is just the kind of inspiration I need.

    If this guy can pull it off, I don`t see why I shouldn`t atleast try to sing the big MC songs.

    icon_biggrin.gif *so happy*
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    Jan 02, 2013 1:09 PM GMT
    Is no one watching the video? icon_sad.gif
  • calibro

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    Jan 02, 2013 3:43 PM GMT
    no one
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    Jan 02, 2013 3:53 PM GMT
    "Like seriously" Wtf
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    Jan 02, 2013 4:09 PM GMT
    Oh well, I tried icon_smile.gif
  • great_scott

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    Jan 02, 2013 4:10 PM GMT
    That was really awkward/awful.
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    Jan 02, 2013 4:11 PM GMT
    great_scott saidThat was really awkward/awful.


    Why?
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    cavalier_calling saidI just got back from an exam today and opened up youtube to doodle for a bit, listening to some music for a while. Always relaxes me.

    But Look what I found...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_0O1rSXqY

    Any Mariah Carey fan who can sing KNOWS how hard it is to sing this song, apart from the whistle notes [Do any of you guys use that register to sing? :S]

    I`m in love with this guy cause I`ve been working on my range since I was 16 and had a music lull for a bit and now that I`m getting back to singing, this is just the kind of inspiration I need.

    If this guy can pull it off, I don`t see why I shouldn`t atleast try to sing the big MC songs.

    icon_biggrin.gif *so happy*
    Most guys do not have the capability to hit that range. Adam Lopez is a countertenor (males who sing in the soprano range). If you're not a countertenor, you will never hit those notes, and you'll severely damage your voice trying to.

    The note Mariah hits in that song is an F#7. That's almost 3 octaves higher than the highest standard male voice (Tenor) can hit. 4-5 octave ranges are extremely rare.
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    Fiyero27 said
    cavalier_calling saidI just got back from an exam today and opened up youtube to doodle for a bit, listening to some music for a while. Always relaxes me.

    But Look what I found...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_0O1rSXqY

    Any Mariah Carey fan who can sing KNOWS how hard it is to sing this song, apart from the whistle notes [Do any of you guys use that register to sing? :S]

    I`m in love with this guy cause I`ve been working on my range since I was 16 and had a music lull for a bit and now that I`m getting back to singing, this is just the kind of inspiration I need.

    If this guy can pull it off, I don`t see why I shouldn`t atleast try to sing the big MC songs.

    icon_biggrin.gif *so happy*
    Most guys do not have the capability to hit that range. Adam Lopez is a countertenor (males who sing in the soprano range). If you're not a countertenor, you will never hit those notes, and you'll severely damage your voice trying to.

    The note Mariah hits in that song is an F#7. That's almost 3 octaves higher than the highest standard male voice (Tenor) can hit. 4-5 octave ranges are extremely rare.


    Yea, I`m aware of that, but I`m not a professional singer and generally don`t push my voice to the extent that it hurts or is uncomfortable in anyway. When in choir, I sing Bass or Baritone.

    [Ps:I can, and do hit those notes {not higher than D7 though}, just that control is a problem and there is no proper melisma as yet, and switching between registers is not very easy or necessarily smooth. Like I mentioned, I`m not a professional singer. Hopefully once I find a vocal coach who can instruct me accordingly, things might improve. ]

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    Jan 02, 2013 4:39 PM GMT
    cavalier_calling said
    Fiyero27 said
    cavalier_calling saidI just got back from an exam today and opened up youtube to doodle for a bit, listening to some music for a while. Always relaxes me.

    But Look what I found...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_0O1rSXqY

    Any Mariah Carey fan who can sing KNOWS how hard it is to sing this song, apart from the whistle notes [Do any of you guys use that register to sing? :S]

    I`m in love with this guy cause I`ve been working on my range since I was 16 and had a music lull for a bit and now that I`m getting back to singing, this is just the kind of inspiration I need.

    If this guy can pull it off, I don`t see why I shouldn`t atleast try to sing the big MC songs.

    icon_biggrin.gif *so happy*
    Most guys do not have the capability to hit that range. Adam Lopez is a countertenor (males who sing in the soprano range). If you're not a countertenor, you will never hit those notes, and you'll severely damage your voice trying to.

    The note Mariah hits in that song is an F#7. That's almost 3 octaves higher than the highest standard male voice (Tenor) can hit. 4-5 octave ranges are extremely rare.


    Yea, I`m aware of that, but I`m not a professional singer and generally don`t push my voice to the extent that it hurts or is uncomfortable in anyway. When in choir, I sing Bass or Baritone.

    [Ps:I can, and do hit those notes {not higher than D7 though}, just that control is a problem and there is no proper melisma as yet, and switching between registers is not very easy or necessarily smooth. Like I mentioned, I`m not a professional singer. Hopefully once I find a vocal coach who can instruct me accordingly, things might improve. ]

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    Well, if you're singing bass/baritone, not sure how you're hitting a D7, unless you're trying to falsetto it. (Falsetto doesn't count when discussing range, it's not your real voice).

    For comparison:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2-4CGOvMM4

    That guy is a professional leggiero tenor who has to hit 9 high Cs in what's called the Mount Everest of male songs. At 1:50 in that video, he holds a long high C. High Cs are hard to hit, can only be sung by tenors, and require years of operatic training to do correctly. A D7 is 2 octaves higher than what the guy in that video can sing.

    Not trying to discourage you, but a lot of people don't understand exactly what vocal range they are singing. And since you said you have no vocal training and you sing bass/baritone, I can guarantee you're not hitting a C5 (high C) in head voice, much less a D7.
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    Jan 02, 2013 4:40 PM GMT
    You go Mariah! I could listen to Hero over and over.icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 02, 2013 4:58 PM GMT
    Fiyero27 said
    cavalier_calling said
    Fiyero27 said
    cavalier_calling saidI just got back from an exam today and opened up youtube to doodle for a bit, listening to some music for a while. Always relaxes me.

    But Look what I found...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_0O1rSXqY

    Any Mariah Carey fan who can sing KNOWS how hard it is to sing this song, apart from the whistle notes [Do any of you guys use that register to sing? :S]

    I`m in love with this guy cause I`ve been working on my range since I was 16 and had a music lull for a bit and now that I`m getting back to singing, this is just the kind of inspiration I need.

    If this guy can pull it off, I don`t see why I shouldn`t atleast try to sing the big MC songs.

    icon_biggrin.gif *so happy*
    Most guys do not have the capability to hit that range. Adam Lopez is a countertenor (males who sing in the soprano range). If you're not a countertenor, you will never hit those notes, and you'll severely damage your voice trying to.

    The note Mariah hits in that song is an F#7. That's almost 3 octaves higher than the highest standard male voice (Tenor) can hit. 4-5 octave ranges are extremely rare.


    Yea, I`m aware of that, but I`m not a professional singer and generally don`t push my voice to the extent that it hurts or is uncomfortable in anyway. When in choir, I sing Bass or Baritone.

    [Ps:I can, and do hit those notes {not higher than D7 though}, just that control is a problem and there is no proper melisma as yet, and switching between registers is not very easy or necessarily smooth. Like I mentioned, I`m not a professional singer. Hopefully once I find a vocal coach who can instruct me accordingly, things might improve. ]

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    Well, if you're singing bass/baritone, not sure how you're hitting a D7, unless you're trying to falsetto it. (Falsetto doesn't count when discussing range, it's not your real voice).

    For comparison:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2-4CGOvMM4

    That guy is a professional leggiero tenor who has to hit 9 high Cs in what's called the Mount Everest of male songs. At 1:50 in that video, he holds a long high C. High Cs are hard to hit, can only be sung by tenors, and require years of operatic training to do correctly. A D7 is 2 octaves higher than what the guy in that video can sing.

    Not trying to discourage you, but a lot of people don't understand exactly what vocal range they are singing. And since you said you have no vocal training and you sing bass/baritone, I can guarantee you're not hitting a C5 (high C) in head voice, much less a D7.


    Lol I`m not sure if people know this, but just because you can sing high doesn`t mean that you`re a tenor/counter tenor or if you can hit a C2 implies that you must be a bass.

    You`re placed according to where your tessitura lies. Yes?

    ...and I may be unsure as to what counts as a vocal range, but I don`t sing a high C [C5] in falsetto, its in Head voice, although I cannot hit that note in chest voice. I wouldn`t be discouraged because I know what octave I`m singing in, music is not new to me, ha ha [But I am not sure, what notes I hit the D6-D7 in. Maybe it is falsetto. I`ve read in articles that it is called super head voice?]

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070908104641AAsFNQC

    http://acapella.harmony-central.com/archive/index.php/t-2449528.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqO4hoNNQeU




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    Jan 02, 2013 5:01 PM GMT
    WickedRyan saidYou go Mariah! I could listen to Hero over and over.icon_smile.gif


    Oooh really? Thats the one song that makes me cringe.
  • great_scott

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    Jan 02, 2013 5:07 PM GMT
    cavalier_calling said
    great_scott saidThat was really awkward/awful.


    Why?


    No soul. The original has a gospel arrangement. He sounds more loungy.
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    Jan 02, 2013 5:10 PM GMT
    Fine I can take that.

    I don`t think his runs are tight enough either. I was just a little shocked to find this guy hitting all these notes better than most women and not sounding too weird.
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    Jan 02, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
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    Lol I`m not sure if people know this, but just because you can sing high doesn`t mean that you`re a tenor/counter tenor or if you can hit a C2 implies that you must be a bass.

    You`re placed according to where your tessitura lies. Yes?

    ...and I may be unsure as to what counts as a vocal range, but I don`t sing a high C [C5] in falsetto, its in Head voice, although I cannot hit that note in chest voice. I wouldn`t be discouraged because I know what octave I`m singing in, music is not new to me, ha ha icon_smile.gif

    Well, range doesn't entirely determine your voice type, no. Tessitura and quality tend to mean more. However, your voice is controlled by the size of your larynx. Bass/Baritones have a larger larynx than tenors/countertenors. So while some basses can sing a bit higher than others, they will never physically be able to sing the range of a tenor, just like a tenor can never sing as low as a bass. Their larynx physically won't allow it.

    Maybe you're not a bass/baritone, it's hard to say. But you seem to be describing that you have an astronomically rare vocal range. The notes you're describing trying to hit would indicate you have (or are trying to develop) over a 5 octave range. Mariah Carey doesn't even have that kind of range.

    Have you tried recording yourself going up and down the scale? Start at your lowest audible note, to the highest note you can physically make sound. That's your range. However, only the notes you can make sound good and sing comfortably count when discussing your voice though. I'm a Tenor. My comfortable performance range is barely 2 octaves (A2-A4), despite being capable of singing at least C2-D5.
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    Jan 02, 2013 5:32 PM GMT
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    Lol I`m not sure if people know this, but just because you can sing high doesn`t mean that you`re a tenor/counter tenor or if you can hit a C2 implies that you must be a bass.

    You`re placed according to where your tessitura lies. Yes?

    ...and I may be unsure as to what counts as a vocal range, but I don`t sing a high C [C5] in falsetto, its in Head voice, although I cannot hit that note in chest voice. I wouldn`t be discouraged because I know what octave I`m singing in, music is not new to me, ha ha icon_smile.gif

    Well, range doesn't entirely determine your voice type, no. Tessitura and quality tend to mean more. However, your voice is controlled by the size of your larynx. Bass/Baritones have a larger larynx than tenors/countertenors. So while some basses can sing a bit higher than others, they will never physically be able to sing the range of a tenor, just like a tenor can never sing as low as a bass. Their larynx physically won't allow it.

    Maybe you're not a bass/baritone, it's hard to say. But you seem to be describing that you have an astronomically rare vocal range. The notes you're describing trying to hit would indicate you have (or are trying to develop) over a 5 octave range. Mariah Carey doesn't even have that kind of range.

    Have you tried recording yourself going up and down the scale? Start at your lowest audible note, to the highest note you can physically make sound. That's your range. However, only the notes you can make sound good and sing comfortably count when discussing your voice though. I'm a Tenor. My comfortable performance range is barely 2 octaves (A2-A4), despite being capable of singing at least C2-D5.




    Exactly. I`m trying to use my vocal range in performance, but for that you need the right kind of music to show case it.

    I`m guessing you`re into classical which I did for some time and found very restricting vocally, whereas with jazz, soul and RnB which allows you more freedom with the kind of sounds that you can use musically.
    [Btw I`m sure Mariah Carey can sing more than 5 octaves. Its only 5 octaves that have been recorded[G#2 to G#7- Check youtube for references]

    Singer Adam Lopez`s vocal range spans 6 octaves.
    Singer Georgia Brown can hit all the notes from G2-G10 (yes, it is scary).

    There`s a WHOLE other world out there outside of classical music. Just all comes down to a matter of taste then.

    ps: Did you watch the video? What did you think of it?
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    Jan 02, 2013 5:33 PM GMT
    Bottom feed bait.
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    Jan 02, 2013 5:49 PM GMT
    cavalier_calling said
    cavalier_calling said
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    Lol I`m not sure if people know this, but just because you can sing high doesn`t mean that you`re a tenor/counter tenor or if you can hit a C2 implies that you must be a bass.

    You`re placed according to where your tessitura lies. Yes?

    ...and I may be unsure as to what counts as a vocal range, but I don`t sing a high C [C5] in falsetto, its in Head voice, although I cannot hit that note in chest voice. I wouldn`t be discouraged because I know what octave I`m singing in, music is not new to me, ha ha icon_smile.gif

    Well, range doesn't entirely determine your voice type, no. Tessitura and quality tend to mean more. However, your voice is controlled by the size of your larynx. Bass/Baritones have a larger larynx than tenors/countertenors. So while some basses can sing a bit higher than others, they will never physically be able to sing the range of a tenor, just like a tenor can never sing as low as a bass. Their larynx physically won't allow it.

    Maybe you're not a bass/baritone, it's hard to say. But you seem to be describing that you have an astronomically rare vocal range. The notes you're describing trying to hit would indicate you have (or are trying to develop) over a 5 octave range. Mariah Carey doesn't even have that kind of range.

    Have you tried recording yourself going up and down the scale? Start at your lowest audible note, to the highest note you can physically make sound. That's your range. However, only the notes you can make sound good and sing comfortably count when discussing your voice though. I'm a Tenor. My comfortable performance range is barely 2 octaves (A2-A4), despite being capable of singing at least C2-D5.




    Exactly. I`m trying to use my vocal range in performance, but for that you need the right kind of music to show case it.

    I`m guessing you`re into classical which I did for some time and found very restricting vocally, whereas with jazz, soul and RnB which allows you more freedom with the kind of sounds that you can use musically.
    [Btw I`m sure Mariah Carey can sing more than 5 octaves. Its only 5 octaves that have been recorded[G#2 to G#7- Check youtube for references]

    Singer Adam Lopez`s vocal range spans 6 octaves.
    Singer Georgia Brown can hit all the notes from G2-G10 (yes, it is scary).

    There`s a WHOLE other world out there outside of classical music. Just all comes down to a matter of taste then.

    ps: Did you watch the video? What did you think of it?
    I'm actually primarily into Musical Theatre. I'm classically trained and italian opera is good for training, but I don't do a lot with that music.

    I did watch the video. He's ok, but his middle voice isn't anything impressive. Same with Georgia Brown. Both have average voices, with the capability of screeching at high octaves. That doesn't necessarily make a good singer.
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    Jan 02, 2013 5:52 PM GMT
    Nastialgic thread... why does Mariah always have to be in such hateful threads?
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    Jan 02, 2013 11:02 PM GMT
    Honey is still my favorite song by her.


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    Jan 02, 2013 11:05 PM GMT
    I can't sing like Mariah Carey. But I can do stairs. So we each have our strengths and weaknesses.
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    Jan 03, 2013 12:09 AM GMT
    I am always a fan of Mariah since the 5th grade and even if her voice changes, she's already a legend. I saw Adam Lopez and Georgia brown videos before I guess last 2007 so I am no longer surprised but in terms of elegance, I would go for Mariah.
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    Jan 03, 2013 12:10 AM GMT
    _menz0 saidBottom feed bait.


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    Jan 03, 2013 12:12 AM GMT
    I did an interview with him actually for school. Hes a really nice guy and his range is ridiculous. I can sometimes get into the whistle register, just don't have the patience practicing in that range. It takes one small mess up to make it so you can't get into it the next day.