Back in Florida from New Hampshire

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    Jan 04, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
    Arrived an hour ago after a 3-day drive, during which all went well, not even any traffic tickets (despite my driving at times). We were away 17 days.

    When we left New Hampshire it was single digit temps with snow everywhere, 80s here now in Florida. Amazing transformation as you travel this big country.

    I told our hosts I would gladly stay behind and be their house's caretaker until they return in the Spring (they live in Florida most of the year), but they said no. You really can become enchanted with a picture-postcard New England town in the Winter.

    Hope everyone else's Christmas & New Years went well. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 05, 2013 1:45 PM GMT
    I finally found a picture I could share. All the others contain people whose privacy I won't violate, or pics that don't prove where we were. This is Christmas day, when we began to get our first snow; we got lots more in the following days. My partner is wearing his flannel sleep pants because we were still opening presents when we got called outside for a pic.

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    Jan 05, 2013 4:30 PM GMT
    Ooh, I live in FL now, but I'm from NY. Love the northeast...it's beautiful there.
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    Jan 05, 2013 10:45 PM GMT
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    ART_DECO saidI finally found a picture I could share. All the others contain people whose privacy I won't violate, or pics that don't prove where we were. This is Christmas day, when we began to get our first snow; we got lots more in the following days. My partner is wearing his flannel sleep pants because we were still opening presents when we got called outside for a pic.

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    What a lovely photo!

    Your irony is noted. No, it's not lovely, and we're not lovely, either. We're just us, 2 old guys. We don't have a lot of choice about that.

    But we are happy. In love with each other, and spending a Christmas with our best friends. And that's all the lovely we need. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 05, 2013 10:48 PM GMT
    No, you are wrong! Beautiful setting. Only thing bugging me is no handrail on the steps. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 05, 2013 10:56 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 .......What a lovely photo!





    southbitch jane is truly RJ's biggest mean-spirited, envious, hating, self-loathing drama queen.




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    Jan 05, 2013 11:03 PM GMT
    art90 saidOoh, I live in FL now, but I'm from NY. Love the northeast...it's beautiful there.

    Well it really was beautiful! Our hosts drove us all around, also into Vermont, where my parents had a vacation home when I was a kid. It was the most wonderful Christmas my partner & I have ever had together.

    We kinda got tired of a Florida Christmas, decorating palm trees, or trying to pretend with a Christmas tree that really wouldn't exist down here.

    So we went cold, and I loved it. Almost every day there was a house party, we weren't still for a moment. I can't describe the joy & happiness we had.

    We were 3 gay couples under 1 roof, later joined by another single gay guy. It doesn't get better than that. Until another gay couple arrived, though they stayed in a hotel. And all the extended family of our hosts we partied with, straights who knew we're gay but were entirely accepting.

    No faking, no hiding, holding hands, being out and being accepted. It was the world I hope we'll someday have everywhere. But until then we had it once, and it was also Christmas. As my husband says: "How good is that?"
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    Jan 05, 2013 11:03 PM GMT
    I'm glad both of you enjoyed yourselves. I miss the changing of the seasons so much......
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    Jan 05, 2013 11:05 PM GMT
    turbobilly saidNo, you are wrong! Beautiful setting. Only thing bugging me is no handrail on the steps. icon_wink.gif

    How funny! One of the guys took the handrail down, and his husband is arguing with him about it. There was one there before.
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    Jan 05, 2013 11:51 PM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidI'm glad both of you enjoyed yourselves. I miss the changing of the seasons so much......

    We wanted some snow, and we got it. When we arrived on the 21st there was none. An earlier snowfall had melted.

    But we awoke to snowfall on Christmas morning, And we got more on the following days, around 8 inches total. Just what we wanted.

    We watched the changing seasons as we drove up from Florida and back. I've been coming down here to Florida for 40 years, and that change still amazes me. One country, many climates. But you live in this same State as us, so you know yourself.
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    Jan 06, 2013 12:18 AM GMT
    Very nice pic and sounds like a wonderful time icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:02 AM GMT
    bri_66 saidVery nice pic and sounds like a wonderful time icon_biggrin.gif

    Thanks, yes it was. Better than we could have hoped. Maybe our last New England Christmas together, who can say? But at least we had it, more perfect than we had imagined.

    Next month is a short Caribbean cruise, and the month after is Key West, with more cruising. We've reached that time of life when we're sorta cruising into the sunset. You see us on those ships, old guys using canes or in wheelchairs. That's what my late parents did their last 15 years or so, bless them, and now it's our turn.

    I hate turning into a cliché, but I have to accept where I am in life. I can still pedal my bike 165 miles down to Key West as I recently did, but my clock is running down just the same, my partner even further along than me.

    Still, you make the best of what you have, whether young or old. And maybe being old makes you cherish each moment the greater, delighting in each snowflake as it falls, whereas when younger you're too busy and preoccupied to notice. Perhaps a child's wonder at the world is returning to me, after a lifetime of adult distractions. I've read that childhood and old age are very similar, and maybe they are.
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:05 AM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    bri_66 saidVery nice pic and sounds like a wonderful time icon_biggrin.gif

    Thanks, yes it was. Better than we could have hoped. Maybe our last New England Christmas together, who can say? But at least we had it, more perfect than we had imagined.

    Next month is a short Caribbean cruise, and the month after is Key West, with more cruising. We've reached that time of life when we're sorta cruising into the sunset. You see us on those ships, old guys using canes or in wheelchairs. That's what my late parents did their last 15 years or so, bless them, and now it's our turn.

    I hate turning into a cliché, but I have to accept where I am in life. I can still pedal my bike 165 miles down to Key West as I recently did, but my clock is running down just the same, my partner even further along than me.

    Still, you make the best of what you have, whether young or old. And maybe being old makes you cherish each moment the greater, delighting in each snowflake as it falls, whereas when younger you're too busy and preoccupied to notice. Perhaps a child's wonder at the world is returning to me, after a lifetime of adult distractions. I've read that childhood and old age are very similar, and maybe they are.


    Hey! Quit referring to that word "old." You are as young as you feel and if you don't stop using it, I'm hitting you with my walker and cane.
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:53 AM GMT
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    bri_66 saidVery nice pic and sounds like a wonderful time icon_biggrin.gif

    Thanks, yes it was. Better than we could have hoped. Maybe our last New England Christmas together, who can say? But at least we had it, more perfect than we had imagined.

    Next month is a short Caribbean cruise, and the month after is Key West, with more cruising. We've reached that time of life when we're sorta cruising into the sunset. You see us on those ships, old guys using canes or in wheelchairs. That's what my late parents did their last 15 years or so, bless them, and now it's our turn.

    I hate turning into a cliché, but I have to accept where I am in life. I can still pedal my bike 165 miles down to Key West as I recently did, but my clock is running down just the same, my partner even further along than me.

    Still, you make the best of what you have, whether young or old. And maybe being old makes you cherish each moment the greater, delighting in each snowflake as it falls, whereas when younger you're too busy and preoccupied to notice. Perhaps a child's wonder at the world is returning to me, after a lifetime of adult distractions. I've read that childhood and old age are very similar, and maybe they are.

    Hey! Quit referring to that word "old." You are as young as you feel and if you don't stop using it, I'm hitting you with my walker and cane.

    Well "old" is the word most often used by some guys here to bash me. If they don't like what I post they slam me with the "old" word. And tell me I'm gonna die soon. So I'm kinda used to it.

    But I assure you that when the time comes I intend to go down with all flags flying (a Navy term for once, rather than Army). At the same time, I'm one of the oldest active members here, as I'm constantly being reminded by the likes of jmusmc85, so I have to take that into consideration. You can only play mind games with your age so much, but numbers don't lie. Nor does your doctor. icon_razz.gif
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:59 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidWell that's what I thought, but apparently some people on here like to wallow in bitterness and negativity and lash out at someone who was trying to start the new year on a kind note.

    The day you sound a kind note about me is the day I need to have my hearing aids replaced. Please go hijack & spoil someone else's thread, OK?
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    Jan 07, 2013 1:34 AM GMT
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    Well, as an olive branch, it's good to see you at least posting under your own profile again. I'm certainly ready for a "turn of leaf" from 2012-Southbeach. It might take more than one or two kind comments to make a few of us confident that this really is a "new you", of course. But if you're committed, I'm sure others will eventually meet you half way.

    And for the record, I thought the pic was quite lovely, too.


    I've only ever posted under this account - I really don't get this concerted effort among some on here to say otherwise.

    Anyway, Bob's nastiness directed at me says a lot about him - suspicious, paranoid and angry. Well, so be it - it is STILL a lovely photo.


    Your statement earlier that you have only posted under this account is not true. Recently, you decided to drag me through the mud under another one of your sock profiles, which you have now chosen to delete. Maybe that decision came after I reported you again for abuse, bullying and stalking (which you have done, admit it).

    If you REALLY want to change and be a productive part of this family (and stay out of the RJ doghouse), I suggest you (1) have a strong talk with yourself if you have not done so already. Understand that you have existed for the sole purpose to hate and bully others and then (2) start a forum post to apologize to the entire RJ family for your words, actions and stringent hatred toward others here.

    Trust cannot be handed to you. YOU have to earn it. I would also strongly suggest those you have collected in your corner to follow in your footsteps to do the same exact thing.

    Failure to do so will result in us continuing to have you permanently removed from this site, and that too goes for your like-minded friends on here.

    Finally, I think personal apologies to both Art and myself are in order...that is if your actions back up the words you have posted here.
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    Jan 07, 2013 1:43 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAnyway, Bob's nastiness directed at me says a lot about him - suspicious, paranoid and angry. Well, so be it - it is STILL a lovely photo.

    Suspicious & paranoid? Well let's see...

    You posted my full real name, and my partner's name, which I had to ask Admin to delete. You also posted other personal info about me, in violation of TOS/TOU.

    Don't deny it, because Chris will remember the incidents, and he was the one who did the deletion of your posts.

    Then there's the incident where you got me suspended, because I posted from a link that a sock account had already done, revealing your A4A account, a public site. I got reinstated.

    I could go on. So please, don't play the innocent victim here. We all know your history.

    And as for the photo, you are wrong again. It is not lovely. It's just a poor snapshot a friend took of us. When I do post a lovely photo I'll let you know.
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    Jan 07, 2013 1:56 AM GMT
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    ART_DECO saidAnd as for the photo, you are wrong again. It is not lovely. It's just a poor snapshot a friend took of us.

    What makes it a lovely photo is its candidness. I've agreed it's lovely...."just take the damn compliment!" icon_wink.gificon_razz.gif

    But yeah, there's a lot of SB baggage....a magic wand isn't gonna wipe that all away....sure would be welcome to see an SB 2.0 though, lol.

    I would take the compliment from SB if I thought it was genuine. I knew he was mocking me. We're just 2 fat old guys looking fat & old, outside a modest house.

    But from you I accept the compliment. Not lovely, just candid as you say. All I wanted to do here was prove we had been there, in accordance with the online dictum: "It didn't happen without a pic".
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    Jan 07, 2013 2:01 AM GMT
    I think it's a great picture. Regardless.

    Awwww c'mon. You don't have days when you feel as if you're 19? I sure do! Vitamin B12 helps!!
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    Jan 07, 2013 2:32 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidI think it's a great picture. Regardless.

    Awwww c'mon. You don't have days when you feel as if you're 19? I sure do! Vitamin B12 helps!!

    I haven't felt like 19 since I was 19, 45 years ago.

    But I did feel pretty good right up until my early 50s. Then I went right over the cliff. A family pattern I anticipated. We hold up fairly well until about 55, even looking young for our age. And then we decline very rapidly. I've been no different. icon_sad.gif
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    Jan 09, 2013 1:45 PM GMT
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    Maybe our last New England Christmas together, who can say?

    Somewhat morose, don't you think?

    Actually I was thinking in terms of the opportunity, in case our friends sell their house. Plus he really didn't like the cold & snow, which surprised me, since like me he comes from that climate.

    ART_DECO saidYou see us on those ships, old guys using canes or in wheelchairs.

    You're 64 (according to your profile). Hardly old.

    Tell that to the other guys here on RJ who slam me for being old.

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    And as for the photo, you are wrong again. It is not lovely. It's just a poor snapshot a friend took of us. When I do post a lovely photo I'll let you know.

    No. It's a lovely photo! And others here have said the same thing. I'm sure you must have thought it was a lovely photo too, otherwise you would not have posted it here.

    As I stated, the photo was posted to prove we were up North for Christmas. It was the only one I found that didn't have others in it, outdoors and where you can make out who we are, not because it's lovely.
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    Jan 09, 2013 1:54 PM GMT
    OK, here's another UNlovely photo I just found today on my iPhone. I forgot our friends snapped it during a shopping trip into Vermont, further proof we were there.

    The "Vermont Country Store" is a big tourist attraction, and they have this covered bridge nearby, that they brought in from somewhere else. The gimmick is you're supposed to have your pic taken while kissing on it. So we did. Along with the 2 other gay couples with us. You should have seen the shocked expressions of the straight couples waiting for their turn, or just walking across the parking lot. icon_lol.gif

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    Jan 09, 2013 2:16 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidOK, here's another UNlovely photo I just found today on my iPhone. I forgot our friends snapped it during a shopping trip into Vermont, further proof we were there.

    The "Vermont Country Store" is a big tourist attraction, and they have this covered bridge nearby, that they brought in from somewhere else. The gimmick is you're supposed to have your pic taken while kissing on it. So we did. Along with the 2 other gay couples we were with. You should have seen the shocked expressions of the straight couples waiting for their turn, or just walking across the parking lot. icon_lol.gif

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    Great pic! Would love to do that someday icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 09, 2013 5:50 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidOK, here's another UNlovely photo I just found today on my iPhone. I forgot our friends snapped it during a shopping trip into Vermont, further proof we were there.

    The "Vermont Country Store" is a big tourist attraction, and they have this covered bridge nearby, that they brought in from somewhere else. The gimmick is you're supposed to have your pic taken while kissing on it. So we did. Along with the 2 other gay couples we were with. You should have seen the shocked expressions of the straight couples waiting for their turn, or just walking across the parking lot. icon_lol.gif

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    I was born in Boston and while my parents moved south when I was 2, I have spent a lot of time in New England. We have a family home in Maine and when I was living in NYC I often skied in Vermont. To me New England has more character than almost anywhere else in the US. If it had warmer coastal waters I'd be there now. Florida would be an amazing place if it had mountains and the towns had the character you find in New England. I think that is why so many Floridians move to NC. They call them halfbacks in NC as they are usually northerners who moved halfway back because they miss the change of seasons, the quaint towns, and topography of New England and they find something similar in the NC mountains. When I cross the state I often have the same experience you had on your drive down. Wilmington on the coast, has spanish moss and palm trees, while the high elevation towns have the same climate as New England. Nearly every October I've been on a drive on the Blue Ridge Parkway it has snowed. NC would be the perfect state if it were politically more like Vermont or even Maryland for that matter. Hell I'd settle for New Hampshire or Maine. At least most to the Republicans there are moderates. Unfortunately once south of Maryland, the best you can do is escape into the gay friendly pockets.

    My brother and I were wondering what my parents should be called since they bought their retirement home in Maine. I was thinking they're in the wrong endzone so I suppose they committed a safety.
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    Jan 09, 2013 6:00 PM GMT
    bri_66 said
    Great pic! Would love to do that someday icon_smile.gif

    Thanks! Then do so! We came up from South Florida, while your Tennessee is a bit closer. You're pretty good looking (with the exact same vitals as I had at 46), so grab a guy and do it. icon_biggrin.gif