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Elitist....the Dumbing Down of America
KissingPro Posts: 387
Sep 21, 2008 7:35 PM GMT
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People love to criticize others by using the word eliist. Obama gets stuck with that label, so do the educated, the well travelled, and the dreamers who want to remake the nation/society into a better place.....and god forbid if he/she is very attractive and articulate. It seems nowdays, it is more acceptable to vote/not vote, or like/dislike a person/politician based on "feelings" hunches, and fears rather than an understanding of the issues and situations.

Alexander Hamilton insisted in the 76th Federalist Paper that our leaders "would be both ashamed and afraid" to elevate people whose chief qualification appeared to be "insignificance and pliancy." But today Hamilton would probably be dismissed as an "elitist" who cannot relate to the average Joe's apparent yearning for leaders who know just as little about the issues as they do.

The late senator from Nebraska is the guy who once defended an ill-qualified, ill-fated high court nominee by saying, "So what if he is mediocre? There are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they?"

Hruska was ridiculed for this remarks. But that was so 38 years ago. Given the populist impulses that are running rampant today, he looks like a seer.


This push to mediocrity is simply popularism gone wild and we will all suffer........because nobody wants their "feelins" hurt.
GQjock Posts: 3826
Sep 21, 2008 8:20 PM GMT
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This is a tactic of the right
To give us EXACTLY that .... Mediocrity
and MAN have they not paid us in full?

Men and Women of quality have been denigrated
and what do they give us instead?
Men you'd like to have a beer with

Scientists are called eggheads
Environmentalists are called treehuggers
and Diplomats are called appeasers

and where has this all gotten us?

Well look around folks .... the right has done a great job

...at Fuckin' Everything up

redheadguy Posts: 2264
Sep 21, 2008 8:30 PM GMT
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Mediocrity makes money just listen to AOR.

People are lazy and would rather not think for themselves.
mindgarden Posts: 1425
Sep 21, 2008 10:20 PM GMT
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Interestingly, people who use words of more than two syllables are often called "fags." As in "lighten up with that fuckin faggy talk!."

On the other hand, I live in a state that is ruled by left-wing extremists. They particularly hate anybody who can do even simple math. Knowledge of chemistry or physics is tantamount to witchcraft.
Thirdbeach Posts: 471
Sep 21, 2008 10:22 PM GMT
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Obama is referred to as "Elitist"?

Wait a minute; I thought he was black.
The US has come a long way if a Black man can be called elitist.
coolarmydude Posts: 1072
Sep 21, 2008 10:25 PM GMT
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I could only think of this scene from Good Will Hunting:

runningstud Posts: 119
Sep 22, 2008 12:09 AM GMT
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KissingPro saidPeople love to criticize others by using the word eliist. Obama gets stuck with that label, so do the educated, the well travelled, and the dreamers who want to remake the nation/society into a better place.....and god forbid if he/she is very attractive and articulate. It seems nowdays, it is more acceptable to vote/not vote, or like/dislike a person/politician based on "feelings" hunches, and fears rather than an understanding of the issues and situations.

Alexander Hamilton insisted in the 76th Federalist Paper that our leaders "would be both ashamed and afraid" to elevate people whose chief qualification appeared to be "insignificance and pliancy." But today Hamilton would probably be dismissed as an "elitist" who cannot relate to the average Joe's apparent yearning for leaders who know just as little about the issues as they do.

The late senator from Nebraska is the guy who once defended an ill-qualified, ill-fated high court nominee by saying, "So what if he is mediocre? There are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they?"

Hruska was ridiculed for this remarks. But that was so 38 years ago. Given the populist impulses that are running rampant today, he looks like a seer.


This push to mediocrity is simply popularism gone wild and we will all suffer........because nobody wants their "feelins" hurt.


I agree. It almost makes one wish for a landed aristocracy ala Thomas Jeffeson. It's never ceased to amaze me how little the American people appreciate intellectual talent. But then again, our history has reinforced the mythical ideal of the common man's populism and wisdom. H. L. Mencken's observation of never underestimating the stupidity of the American public is all too unfortunately true.
5537B00B Posts: 193
Sep 22, 2008 12:25 AM GMT
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Did you guys see Lady Lynn Foresster de Rothschild (yes, those Rothschilds) accusing Obama of being an elitist on CNN. It's like being in the twilight zone. Although, the term elitist does not need to imply wealth, or even race, because there is something else to it, but I can't put my finger on it. I go to a very Republican gym so I am immersed in this stuff.
friendormate Posts: 149
Sep 22, 2008 12:43 AM GMT
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Thirdbeach saidObama is referred to as "Elitist"?

Wait a minute; I thought he was black.
The US has come a long way if a Black man can be called elitist.


Possibly or maybe it is just that a PC world does not allow them to say what they really mean which is "stop acting white".

What's wrong with this picture: Bush born into plenty of money, gets an elite education at his daddy's school, acts like an idiot and is considered a down-to-earth guy that everyone wants to have a beer with. Obama and his wife come from meager means both get elite educations, one does community service and the other gives up a high powered job to work for the inner city and they get labeled elitist.
Dante_redux Posts: 241
Sep 22, 2008 12:53 AM GMT
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Those who call others elitists are probably not very smart themselves. Therefore, they hold those that are mediocre to a higher level than they should be.
Then again, I don't label people like that.
You can call me mighty mouse.
mindgarden Posts: 1425
Sep 22, 2008 12:53 AM GMT
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Well I have often advocated that old idea of choosing candidates for high office by a random drawing of social-security numbers, on the grounds that the result couldn't be any worse than the present system. I think we have a couple of good examples at hand. At least a random system wouldn't require that we always choose from a pool of individuals with a psycopathic craving for power.
Squarejaw Posts: 911
Sep 22, 2008 1:08 AM GMT
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From now on, anytime someone uses "elitist" as a smear, I'll counter with, "What are you then, a mediocritist?"
dancerjack Posts: 930
Sep 22, 2008 1:10 AM GMT
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i still love this man. especially when he's dressed like a, um, "bear."
GQjock Posts: 3826
Sep 22, 2008 1:11 AM GMT
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Obama's an elitist
when he was born to a single Mom

Grampy's not even though he has seven houses

Obama's an elitist even though he had to put himself through school with student loans

Grampy's not an elitist even though he married a beer heiress

Obama's an elitist even though he worked in the South Side of Chicago helping the poor after college

Grampy's not an elitist even though he came from a very prominent military family and went to West Point

Does the Mona Lisa have a Mustache?
GobB Posts: 779
Sep 22, 2008 1:15 AM GMT
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5537B00B saidDid you guys see Lady Lynn Foresster de Rothschild (yes, those Rothschilds) accusing Obama of being an elitist on CNN. It's like being in the twilight zone. Although, the term elitist does not need to imply wealth, or even race, because there is something else to it, but I can't put my finger on it. I go to a very Republican gym so I am immersed in this stuff.


and did you also see how campbell brown shut her down and made her look like a fool because of how ridiculous this billionaire looked calling obama an elitist?
1969er Posts: 717
Sep 22, 2008 1:37 AM GMT
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GQjock saidObama's an elitist
when he was born to a single Mom

Grampy's not even though he has seven houses

Obama's an elitist even though he had to put himself through school with student loans

Grampy's not an elitist even though he married a beer heiress

Obama's an elitist even though he worked in the South Side of Chicago helping the poor after college

Grampy's not an elitist even though he came from a very prominent military family and went to West Point

Does the Mona Lisa have a Mustache?

All agreed. But to be factual, Grandpa McSame went to the Naval Academy, not West Point. His father was an Admiral, so they practically had to take him. It certainly couldn't have been earned, considering his bottom-of-the-class ranking.
mickeytopogig... Posts: 1027
Sep 22, 2008 4:22 AM GMT
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dancerjack saidi still love this man. especially when he's dressed like a, um, "bear."
I still think it's a squirrel. I've seen lots of topless squirrels, but bears are always bottomless.
dowal Posts: 372
Sep 22, 2008 4:29 AM GMT
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mickeytopogigio said
dancerjack saidi still love this man. especially when he's dressed like a, um, "bear."
I still think it's a squirrel. I've seen lots of topless squirrels, but bears are always bottomless.


His pics go down to his waist. For all we know he could be both topless and bottomless.
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Sep 22, 2008 5:44 AM GMT
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A bear? Where?!
Caslon8000 Posts: 8102
Sep 22, 2008 5:50 AM GMT
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mickeytopogigio said
dancerjack saidi still love this man. especially when he's dressed like a, um, "bear."
I still think it's a squirrel. I've seen lots of topless squirrels, but bears are always bottomless.

I think it's a rat....looks like a rat....could be a rat.....gotta see his tail to be sure.....turn around squarejaw, we wanna see your tail.
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Sep 22, 2008 6:12 AM GMT
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Caslon7000 said
mickeytopogigio said
dancerjack saidi still love this man. especially when he's dressed like a, um, "bear."
I still think it's a squirrel. I've seen lots of topless squirrels, but bears are always bottomless.

I think it's a rat....looks like a rat....could be a rat.....gotta see his tail to be sure.....turn around squarejaw, we wanna see your tail.


Wombat, definitely a naughty naughty lil' wombat.
Sedative Posts: 5545
Sep 22, 2008 6:47 AM GMT
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mindgarden saidInterestingly, people who use words of more than two syllables are often called "fags." As in "lighten up with that fuckin faggy talk!."

On the other hand, I live in a state that is ruled by left-wing extremists. They particularly hate anybody who can do even simple math. Knowledge of chemistry or physics is tantamount to witchcraft.


ROFL. So right.

Recently I experienced getting slammed by a Christian Right-winger Filipino who was contending that the US was a 'Christian State' and that the heat of the equatorial region was the cause of why equatorial nations are so underdeveloped.

He told me to 'stop using big words because you sound gay' (actually gay wasn't the word he used, he said 'emo' which is tantamount to gay here anyway).

Funny enough he, himself, speaks horrible horrible english. And his solution for his 'heat theory affecting filipino brains'?

...Move the Philippines away from the equator. I mean... WTF?! Is he even serious?!! ROFLMAO

I told him to wear a hat.
Sedative Posts: 5545
Sep 22, 2008 6:49 AM GMT
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runningstud said
I agree. It almost makes one wish for a landed aristocracy ala Thomas Jeffeson. It's never ceased to amaze me how little the American people appreciate intellectual talent. But then again, our history has reinforced the mythical ideal of the common man's populism and wisdom. H. L. Mencken's observation of never underestimating the stupidity of the American public is all too unfortunately true.


Indeed, compared to say... the UK or Japan. It seems as if being 'the next door regular ole guy who don't read books' is a plus in American politics. Note that even here in the Philippines, the sentiment is the same.
Sedative Posts: 5545
Sep 22, 2008 6:50 AM GMT
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RBY71 said
Caslon7000 said
mickeytopogigio said
dancerjack saidi still love this man. especially when he's dressed like a, um, "bear."
I still think it's a squirrel. I've seen lots of topless squirrels, but bears are always bottomless.

I think it's a rat....looks like a rat....could be a rat.....gotta see his tail to be sure.....turn around squarejaw, we wanna see your tail.


Wombat, definitely a naughty naughty lil' wombat.


A chipmunk!
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Sep 22, 2008 6:52 AM GMT
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Sedative said
RBY71 said
Caslon7000 said
mickeytopogigio said
dancerjack saidi still love this man. especially when he's dressed like a, um, "bear."
I still think it's a squirrel. I've seen lots of topless squirrels, but bears are always bottomless.

I think it's a rat....looks like a rat....could be a rat.....gotta see his tail to be sure.....turn around squarejaw, we wanna see your tail.


Wombat, definitely a naughty naughty lil' wombat.


A chipmunk!


Nope, pretty sure he's a wombat. Bad bad lil' wombat needs a spankin'
Sedative Posts: 5545
Sep 22, 2008 6:56 AM GMT
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RBY71 said
Sedative said
RBY71 said
Caslon7000 said
mickeytopogigio said
dancerjack saidi still love this man. especially when he's dressed like a, um, "bear."
I still think it's a squirrel. I've seen lots of topless squirrels, but bears are always bottomless.

I think it's a rat....looks like a rat....could be a rat.....gotta see his tail to be sure.....turn around squarejaw, we wanna see your tail.


Wombat, definitely a naughty naughty lil' wombat.


A chipmunk!


Nope, pretty sure he's a wombat. Bad bad lil' wombat needs a spankin'


I see the resemblance.



SO CUUUUUUUUTE! XD
KissingPro Posts: 387
Oct 10, 2008 5:26 PM GMT
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We don't need "folksy" politicians who like to call themsleves mavericks and refer to the public as "my friends". I want to vote for a ticket that is smarter than me and who can fix today's problems.

What a shame......this dumbing down of America and our preoccupation with non-issues and things that candidates did or people they knew decades ago.

It's sad to see how many Americans can not, or will not, understand the issues and rely only on outdated political party affiliations and simple minded
talking points.

GEEZ.
XRuggerATX Posts: 2832
Oct 10, 2008 6:10 PM GMT
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Watch Idiocracy.
McGay Posts: 3203
Oct 10, 2008 6:18 PM GMT
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Good post, KP. Though it should come as no surprise that mediocrity is so in vogue. There's 300 million or so people in the U.S. A great deal of them have never travelled beyond a 20 mile radius of their birthplaces. Literacy levels in the U.S. are low. Lipsyncing actually draws an audience. It's not necessary to converse with a 3rd person before mediocrity is talking back to you.
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