Anyone Read Roland Barthes

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    Sep 22, 2008 3:49 AM GMT
    I am trying to grasp S/Z and was wondering if anyone could help explain or basically give good examples of what the hell the Symbolic, Semic, and Proairetic coes are. I can read what he wrote and read what others have written (namely Barbara Johnson and Peggy Rosenthal) but I am still going, "WTF"

    It is an off the wall topic, but I figured I would try since his examples don't cut it for a think head like me.


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    Sep 22, 2008 7:39 PM GMT
    Oy. I've read a lot of his stuff. May I suggest.....wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/Z

    I thought Johnson was a Lacanian. Her critique of Barthes would probly be as difficult as reading Barthes, if my memory is right.

    I thought theory had died.
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    Sep 22, 2008 9:40 PM GMT
    Far from it, everyone is always trying to out to the other. Foucault to Derrida to Chomsky, etc...

    I tend to stay away from Wikipedia just because they do somewhat have a tendency to over simply very critical arguments.

    I do love Barthes. La Mort de l'auteur really is amazing and le Plaisir du Texte is amazing; S/Z is great but cumbersome at times and his explanations of all his codes are a bit lackluster and only preform if you read each and ever detailed example from Sarassine.

    As for Johnson, I believe see is one of the numerous females de l'├ęcole Lacanienne. Her critique is worthwhile though and isn't nearly as heavy as most psycho-analy works. Nancy Blake is still my favorite Lacanian, probably because I have a small crush on her.