Kelly Clarkson May Kind of Have a Point?

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    Jan 06, 2013 8:16 PM GMT
    "The guys who are the most confident are the horrible ones, and the ones who are good have no confidence at all."
    http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/Kelly-Clarkson-addresses-gay-rumors----again:-If-I-were-a-lesbian----/8942114

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    Jan 06, 2013 8:18 PM GMT
    I don't think that's true. Some people with no confidence tend to become bitter and take that out on other people.
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    Jan 06, 2013 8:19 PM GMT
    Nawh...not buying it.
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    Jan 06, 2013 8:21 PM GMT
    I think we need to get over this misguided notion that all good looking guys are dumb/self centered while not so attractive guys are smart/amazing people.

    I've met some pretty hot guys who are smart, successful, funny, and kind. I've also met some ugly guys who were mean spirited, idiots, and not so humble.


    It can go either way. We are all adults. We should know better by now.

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    Jan 06, 2013 8:21 PM GMT
    eeeeeeya ... a no .... while in general it might be true that donald trump type of men are real asses ... for the general public this will rarely be true ... it's totally a matter of understanding
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    Jan 06, 2013 8:24 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidI think we need to get over this misguided notion that all good lucking guys are dumb/self centered while not so attractive guys are smart/amazing people.

    I've met some pretty hot guys who are smart, successful, funny, and kind. I've also met some ugly guys who were mean spirited, idiots, and not so humble.


    It can go either way. We are all adults. We should know better by now.



    True. It depends on the person.

    I go with this method: everyone is innocent til proven to be an asshole. Why walk around with misconceptions of people just based on looks.
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    Jan 06, 2013 8:29 PM GMT
    In how what KC said applies to gay men, I have noticed a trend here on RJ and other sites. Exceptionally good looking guys who know they are good looking, stating in their profiles that they are looking for other in shape, confident guys.

    But it seems that when they say confident, what they are really saying is that they are looking for someone who is the entire package and projects an aura of arrogrance because he knows it. That they are in a special class, a superiority thing.

    Just the way it seems to come off at times.
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    Jan 06, 2013 8:36 PM GMT
    Helios69 saidIn how what KC said applies to gay men, I have noticed a trend here on RJ and other sites. Really good looking guys who know they are good looking, stating in their profiles that they are looking for other in shape, confident guys.

    But it seems that when they say confident, what they are really saying is that they are looking for someone who is the entire package and projects an aura of arrogrance because he knows it. That they are in a special class, a superiority thing.

    Just the way it seems to come off at times.


    Sure, blame the pretty boys for YOUR entitlement issues.icon_rolleyes.gif

    Better yet, don't be so superficial when you're hitting on someone.
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    Jan 06, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
    Helios69 saidIn how what KC said applies to gay men, I have noticed a trend here on RJ and other sites. Exceptionally good looking guys who know they are good looking, stating in their profiles that they are looking for other in shape, confident guys.

    But it seems that when they say confident, what they are really saying is that they are looking for someone who is the entire package and projects an aura of arrogrance because he knows it. That they are in a special class, a superiority thing.

    Just the way it seems to come off at times.


    Guys can be ugly and yet still be 100% unattractive from the inside as well. You are a perfect example.

    So what if a guy has standards? I bet there is no way for a guy to state what he is looking for in a mate without offending at least one person. Usually those who are offended are the ones who don't make the cut.


    It is what it is. I would love to sleep with every male model and porn star out there, but guess what? It ain't happening!!! Well, it kinda is, but thats not the point.

    The point is we all can't have what we want!!!
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    Jan 06, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
    Helios69 saidIn how what KC said applies to gay men, I have noticed a trend here on RJ and other sites. Exceptionally good looking guys who know they are good looking, stating in their profiles that they are looking for other in shape, confident guys.

    But it seems that when they say confident, what they are really saying is that they are looking for someone who is the entire package and projects an aura of arrogrance because he knows it. That they are in a special class, a superiority thing.

    Just the way it seems to come off at times.


    If you haven't asked these so called exceptional men what their agenda is when referring to in-shape confident men and gotten a response you're projecting.
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    Jan 06, 2013 8:47 PM GMT
    do I get the sence that guys who are a bit less self confident, have a little green monster strapped to their back?
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    Jan 06, 2013 11:12 PM GMT
    It's a generalization. I think it's more correct than incorrect.

    It's not like people were born with random traits. If that were the case, this quote would be completely false.

    Confident and/or better-looking people get treated better, they get let off the hook more often, they get more opportunities. It enables bad traits to grow. They can of course choose to not let those bad traits grow, but that requires a dedication to remaining a good person.

    Unconfident and/or worse-looking people have a harder time in life, they don't get away with being a dick and have to face consequences. They can of course choose not to learn from their experience, but that is fighting nature.

    Humans rarely act better than the law and social norms force them to. Go ahead and say that's a made up probability, life experience is my mentor.
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    Jan 06, 2013 11:27 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 said
    Helios69 saidIn how what KC said applies to gay men, I have noticed a trend here on RJ and other sites. Exceptionally good looking guys who know they are good looking, stating in their profiles that they are looking for other in shape, confident guys.

    But it seems that when they say confident, what they are really saying is that they are looking for someone who is the entire package and projects an aura of arrogrance because he knows it. That they are in a special class, a superiority thing.

    Just the way it seems to come off at times.


    Guys can be ugly and yet still be 100% unattractive from the inside as well. You are a perfect example.

    So what if a guy has standards? I bet there is no way for a guy to state what he is looking for in a mate without offending at least one person. Usually those who are offended are the ones who don't make the cut.


    It is what it is. I would love to sleep with every male model and porn star out there, but guess what? It ain't happening!!! Well, it kinda is, but thats not the point.

    The point is we all can't have what we want!!!

    @jmusmc85, to add on...

    Kinda seems that when an unattractive guy has standards, he is hailed, but when attractive guys have standards, they're self-riteous, selfish assholes.icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 06, 2013 11:31 PM GMT
    I don't buy it.

    I'm confident, and I'm a nice guy.






    (Just ignore the pussies who think I'm an asshole.)
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    Jan 06, 2013 11:57 PM GMT
    SkinnyBitch saidIt's a generalization. I think it's more correct than incorrect.

    It's not like people were born with random traits. If that were the case, this quote would be completely false.

    Confident and/or better-looking people get treated better, they get let off the hook more often, they get more opportunities. It enables bad traits to grow. They can of course choose to not let those bad traits grow, but that requires a dedication to remaining a good person.

    Unconfident and/or worse-looking people have a harder time in life, they don't get away with being a dick and have to face consequences. They can of course choose not to learn from their experience, but that is fighting nature.

    Humans rarely act better than the law and social norms force them to. Go ahead and say that's a made up probability, life experience is my mentor.


    I don't agree with that at all. Pretty people get used, especially women. And if they try to use their beauty to get ahead, they're a slut. And ugly-hearted people constantly judge, envy, and fail to see the person underneath. Maybe average people are the superficial ones, because they are the ones judging.
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:03 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidI don't agree with that at all. Pretty people get used, especially women. And if they try to use their beauty to get ahead, they're a slut. And ugly-hearted people constantly judge, envy, and fail to see the person underneath. Maybe average people are the superficial ones, because they are the ones judging.
    Ugly people get used too. Pretty people don't need to use their beauty to get ahead, opportunities open for them. In their defense, they probably have no idea that they're being treated differently. What do ugly-hearty people have to do with this thread?
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:19 AM GMT
    SkinnyBitch said
    HottJoe saidI don't agree with that at all. Pretty people get used, especially women. And if they try to use their beauty to get ahead, they're a slut. And ugly-hearted people constantly judge, envy, and fail to see the person underneath. Maybe average people are the superficial ones, because they are the ones judging.
    Ugly people get used too. Pretty people don't need to use their beauty to get ahead, opportunities open for them. In their defense, they probably have no idea that they're being treated differently. What do ugly-hearty people have to do with this thread?


    It's been a theme on a number of threads today, or so I've noticed... I just think calling people names because they don't respond to hotlistlings is ugly. You can't buy someone with the push of a button.... Calling someone a douche after you hotlist them is more superficial than being hot.
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:26 AM GMT
    Another annoying trend. Those who use "hot" or "jock" in their screen names, when the reality is quite different. Who knows, someone out there may fall for it. Calm down "HottJoe", you're not one of the guys I was referring to.

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    Jan 07, 2013 12:28 AM GMT
    Helios69 saidAnother annoying trend. Those who use "hot" or "jock" in their screen names, when the reality is quite different. Who knows, someone out there may fall for it. Calm down "HottJoe", you're not one of the guys I was referring to.



    I never thought I was! I'm just the comedian here. But I have friends in high places.icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:31 AM GMT
    Helios69 saidAnother annoying trend. Those who use "hot" or "jock" in their screen names, when the reality is quite different. Who knows, someone out there may fall for it. Calm down "HottJoe", you're not one of the guys I was referring to.



    Funny enough they tend to be older men who although somewhat decent bodied are probably trying to convince people of their youth and vitality.