Jesus was DIRTY!

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    Jan 06, 2013 11:05 PM GMT
    Fully human. He was just like us. Dirty.

    To think, that the Christian savior...
    1. Took a shit, and had diarrhea on occasion.
    2. Lost his temper.
    3. Hung out with prostitutes.

    Not your "white robes, floating on a cloud with a halo" kind of savior, eh?

    What are your thoughts?

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    Jan 06, 2013 11:19 PM GMT
    I heard he also had no indoor plumbing or electricity. Ewwwwwww, nasty!
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    Jan 06, 2013 11:56 PM GMT
    I agree with everything said in the linked article. Not forgetting that not only Jesus, but all twelve of his disciples had to poop and pee when nature called.

    Although Jesus did associate with prostitutes, that doesn't mean he actually had sex with them.

    And the only time Jesus lost his temper was when he saw his Father's house (the Temple) desecrated by having a market within its premises. He did not lose his temper when he was personally insulted, especially by the Pharisees.

    Jesus Christ is God incarnate. By taking on a fully human body of flesh, not only does he understand the frame we live in, but qualifies him to atone for our sins on the cross, and to give eternal life to everyone who believes.
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:16 AM GMT
    The guy didnt even wear shoes
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:17 AM GMT
    I bet he was hot.
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:20 AM GMT
    huhwhat saidI bet he was hot.

    Nope
    Isaiah 53 (I think) kind of squashes that if prophecy is considered.
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:27 AM GMT
    To the OP:

    Most of the misrepresentation of Jesus comes from people who have not actually read the story.
    Its incredible how many people criticize the story the Bible tells without actually reading it. It's also interesting to listen to the people who swear by it but haven't read it.
    I've read it from beginning to end and it is one hell of a ride.
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:28 AM GMT
    Bombadil saidTo the OP:

    Most of the misrepresentation of Jesus comes from people who have not actually read the story.
    Its incredible how many people criticize the story the Bible tells without actually reading it. It's also interesting to listen to the people who swear by it but haven't read it.
    I've read it from beginning to end and it is one hell of a ride.


    I've read the bibe cover to cover 4 times, each in a different translation. It's part of the reason I'm no longer a believer.
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:37 AM GMT
    Bombadil said
    huhwhat saidI bet he was hot.

    Nope
    Isaiah 53 (I think) kind of squashes that if prophecy is considered.


    Connections to prophecy might have been superimposed into Jesus' narrative to give it validity for Jewish readers. Isaiah never saw Jesus. Messianic prophecy meant different things to different Jews at different times.
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    Jan 07, 2013 12:37 AM GMT
    Jesus was WHITE!!!!! Lol
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    Jan 07, 2013 1:17 AM GMT
    Medjai said
    Bombadil saidTo the OP:

    Most of the misrepresentation of Jesus comes from people who have not actually read the story.
    Its incredible how many people criticize the story the Bible tells without actually reading it. It's also interesting to listen to the people who swear by it but haven't read it.
    I've read it from beginning to end and it is one hell of a ride.


    I've read the bibe cover to cover 4 times, each in a different translation. It's part of the reason I'm no longer a believer.


    I was raised a Jehovah's Witness, so we had to read the Bible (New World Translation and the King James) beginning with Genesis and ending with Revelations every year. Everyday we had to read several chapters in order to squeeze the whole book in by the end of the year. Basically, I had to read the Bible from beginning to end around 15 times at least.

    We didn't only read it, we also had to study it using reference manuals, taking notes and then meditate on what we had just read. We even had to give Bible readings and explanations in front of the whole congregation weekly when we were assigned the task. It was really time consuming and really intense.

    But after having read the thing 15+ times, not to mention all of the reading we did while in service, I have to agree with you and Sir Issac Asimov:

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    Jan 07, 2013 1:25 AM GMT
    This is such an offensive topic and I don't like it.

    Maybe some of you don't believe in God and that is you and I don't judge, but I don't appreciate topics like this that belittle my faith and my savior. Which is very important to me/ an important part of me.

    It's sad really, very heartbreaking, that's the only thing I will say here, and I will leave this topic at that.
  • great_scott

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    Jan 07, 2013 1:27 AM GMT
    Why come to the spirituality section if mocking people's faiths is all you have to offer? Some of you are way too old for this.
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    Jan 07, 2013 1:40 AM GMT
    JamieJfromtheA saidThis is such an offensive topic and I don't like it.

    Maybe some of you don't believe in God and that is you and I don't judge, but I don't appreciate topics like this that belittle my faith and my savior. Which is very important to me/ an important part of me.

    It's sad really, very heartbreaking, that's the only thing I will say here, and I will leave this topic at that.


    I don't recall belittling your religion. I don't see how pointing out the humanity of Jesus does either. That was the point of his time on earth.
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    Jan 07, 2013 1:55 AM GMT
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    Jan 07, 2013 2:15 AM GMT
    _menz0 saidimages?q=tbn:ANd9GcRokk3mg1oremB5UltjFXf
    Just shift your weight back and don't touch the brakes.

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    Jan 07, 2013 2:17 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    _menz0 saidimages?q=tbn:ANd9GcRokk3mg1oremB5UltjFXf
    Just shift your weight back and don't touch the brakes.

    Downhill riding is awesome! icon_cool.gif
    I had a long winded rant that went off topic midway, but it was too much, even cut in half. Think I'd rather not lead anyone off the cliff, and postulate on my own.
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    Jan 07, 2013 2:18 AM GMT
    huhwhat saidI bet he was hot.


    dcblue saidJesus was WHITE!!!!! Lol


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    Jan 07, 2013 2:25 AM GMT
    dcblue saidJesus was WHITE!!!!! Lol


    Hmmmm. Did could they have imported Mary in from England, Scandinavia, or such just to get preggers immaculate?

    And Jewish none the less!

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    Jan 07, 2013 2:26 AM GMT
    Hard_gainer saidThe guy didnt even wear shoes


    Right; he wore sandals.
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    Jan 07, 2013 2:27 AM GMT
    FRE0 said
    Hard_gainer saidThe guy didnt even wear shoes


    Right; he wore sandals.

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    Jan 07, 2013 2:41 AM GMT
    great_scott saidWhy come to the spirituality section if mocking people's faiths is all you have to offer? Some of you are way too old for this.


    I think if you read some of my other posts you would see that I respect and believe in God, the Buddah, the Great Spirit, Ke Aku'a, and other named incarnations of beneficent diety. I also respect and believe in all of God's messengers of peace which include Jesus, Mohammad, and Moses.

    If anything, I mock the bourgeois who would put Jesus up on a pedestal because they clearly miss (what I believe was part of) His point. He was one of us. And, sought to fully and compassionately experience life as one of us so that when He was tortured and murdered He understood our mortal pain.

    In my view, Jesus would not have wanted to be idolized. But that's my point of view. Nobody has to share my point of view. This is what the "Block Him" and "Ignore His Posts" links are for if you don't like what I have to say.

    Jesus was dirty.
    He hammered nails.
    He wiped His ass.
    He carried His own cross to His own execution.
    Thank God He allowed Himself to be one of us.
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    Jan 07, 2013 2:45 AM GMT
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    Jan 07, 2013 2:47 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidI heard he also had no indoor plumbing or electricity. Ewwwwwww, nasty!

    You're overlooking the blessings of the Pax Romana - aqueducts, flushing latrines, and of course, the baths.
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    Jan 07, 2013 2:54 AM GMT
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    great_scott saidWhy come to the spirituality section if mocking people's faiths is all you have to offer? Some of you are way too old for this.


    I think if you read some of my other posts you would see that I respect and believe in God, the Buddah, the Great Spirit, Ke Aku'a, and other named incarnations of beneficent diety. I also respect and believe in all of God's messengers of peace which include Jesus, Mohammad, and Moses.

    If anything, I mock the bourgeois who would put Jesus up on a pedestal because they clearly miss (what I believe was part of) His point. He was one of us. And, sought to fully and compassionately experience life as one of us so that when He was tortured and murdered He understood our mortal pain.

    In my view, Jesus would not have wanted to be idolized. But that's my point of view. Nobody has to share my point of view. This is what the "Block Him" and "Ignore His Posts" links are for if you don't like what I have to say.

    Jesus was dirty.
    He hammered nails.
    He wiped His ass.
    He carried His own cross to His own execution.
    Thank God He allowed Himself to be one of us.

    This. It's one of Christianity's attributes that I find attractive really. That despite the glamour and prettiness and the immense power and wealth of the Catholic church, everything behind is pure and simple. It truly is meek. It's also kind of what separates it from the other monotheistic religions. Judaism has history steep in the royal lineage of King David and Solomon and the massive kingdoms. Moses himself was raised as a noble. I think Mohammed was some sort of prince before he forsake it all. It's also the reason why I like Michelangelo's Pieta so much:

    Look at Jesus' hand: two fingers are lightly grasping mommys robe.

    I did get into a debate with my uncle last New Years when I mentioned that Mary was not this pretty European white woman: that girl (I think she was 15 or 16?) was a Persian Jew. And I say Persian Jew because in family it does carry a negative connotation unfortunately as being cheap and ugly looking. icon_confused.gif