I gained 5 lbs.

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    Jan 07, 2013 8:06 AM GMT
    And I'm fucking ecstatic!
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    Jan 07, 2013 9:13 AM GMT
    Congrats!

    Wait, 5 lbs of what?
  • Bunjamon

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    Jan 07, 2013 12:48 PM GMT
    Gaining 5 pounds of muscle in the land of hard gainers is a reason to celebrate. icon_biggrin.gif

    I'm assuming that's what you're talking about.
  • calibro

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    Jan 07, 2013 1:34 PM GMT
    penis pounds?
  • DCEric

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    Jan 07, 2013 1:44 PM GMT
    Congrats... I know how tough that is...
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    Jan 07, 2013 1:57 PM GMT
    Bunjamon saidGaining 5 pounds of muscle in the land of hard gainers is a reason to celebrate. icon_biggrin.gif

    I'm assuming that's what you're talking about.



    Yes, if most of that 5 lbs. is lean muscle, you did beter than most over the winter holiday season, when most folks gain 7 lbs of fat!
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    Jan 07, 2013 2:24 PM GMT
    That's hot, congrats. icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 07, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    May I have a spare lb? icon_redface.gif
  • stratavos

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    Jan 07, 2013 3:47 PM GMT
    Bustamante saidMay I have a spare lb? icon_redface.gif


    what he said, and regardless good job!

    may the gains continue to increase!
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    Jan 07, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    calibro saidpenis pounds?

    @calibro Yes it does, during f**king icon_razz.gif

    Congrats Timshel, post a pic with the new definition that resulted. Excellent work!
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    Jan 07, 2013 4:52 PM GMT
    Realistically, you can gain five pounds in a couple of meals and drinking some water. I can swing my weight 10 pounds in a day without a problem. I can drop 2.5 pounds of water, just working out.

    You'll want to read up on gyclogen loading and how it works.

    Reality is that five pounds isn't really much of a gain. It's a variance, at best.

    Eating properly, you should be able to consistently gain about 1 to 1.5 lbs a week, until you hit a set point, and then you have to blow past that. If you're taking any androgen, you can gain about 2.5 pounds a week, or more, on average, without much trouble.

    As you can see, five pounds isn't really much to get worked up about.

    I can eat five pounds of food, when I wanta'.

    I wouldn't sweat variances of 5 or even 10 pounds.

    Remember to stay cool. It'll help your performance, and keep you from being dehydrated.

    Post contest, when nutrition partitioning is best, I can gain 30 pounds in less than 3 weeks...almost 40.

    On any given day, I can carb load to the tune of 3 to 5 pounds (water).

    I'd celebrate gains over 10, 20, or 30 pounds....five pounds is pooping. LOL.

    My ex roommate gained 85 pounds of muscle, and lowered his body fat by 2%, in just five months, and he's a type 1 diabetic. (We leveraged his lemons to make lemonade.)

    If you bring on enough calories, even without exogenous androgen, you should be able to put on a pound a week without getting fat. Likely you've struggled because you aren't eating enough.
  • GWriter

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    Jan 07, 2013 5:05 PM GMT
    God for you, Tim. Nice work!
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    Jan 07, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidRealistically, you can gain five pounds in a couple of meals and drinking some water. I can swing my weight 10 pounds in a day without a problem. I can drop 2.5 pounds of water, just working out.

    You'll want to read up on gyclogen loading and how it works.

    Reality is that five pounds isn't really much of a gain. It's a variance, at best.

    Eating properly, you should be able to consistently gain about 1 to 1.5 lbs a week, until you hit a set point, and then you have to blow past that. If you're taking any androgen, you can gain about 2.5 pounds a week, or more, on average, without much trouble.

    As you can see, five pounds isn't really much to get worked up about.

    I can eat five pounds of food, when I wanta'.

    I wouldn't sweat variances of 5 or even 10 pounds.

    Remember to stay cool. It'll help your performance, and keep you from being dehydrated.

    Post contest, when nutrition partitioning is best, I can gain 30 pounds in less than 3 weeks...almost 40.

    On any given day, I can carb load to the tune of 3 to 5 pounds (water).

    I'd celebrate gains over 10, 20, or 30 pounds....five pounds is pooping. LOL.

    My ex roommate gained 85 pounds of muscle, and lowered his body fat by 2%, in just five months, and he's a type 1 diabetic. (We leveraged his lemons to make lemonade.)

    If you bring on enough calories, even without exogenous androgen, you should be able to put on a pound a week without getting fat. Likely you've struggled because you aren't eating enough.

    Impossible. I was gaining 3 pounds a month when I first started lifting. I put on muscle during that time period, but about half of the weight that I gained was fat. A pound a month (2 pounds for newbies) is a good goal for a natural with average genetics imo. A pound a week is 52 pounds a year. You'd be lucky if 15 of those pounds is muscle especially if you've been lifting for a long time like the op.
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    Jan 07, 2013 7:29 PM GMT
    JR122 saidImpossible. I was gaining 3 pounds a month when I first started lifting. I put on muscle during that time period, but about half of the weight that I gained was fat. A pound a month (2 pounds for newbies) is a good goal for a natural with average genetics imo. A pound a week is 52 pounds a year. You'd be lucky if 15 of those pounds is muscle especially if you've been lifting for a long time like the op.


    If someone did the holy fitness trinity correctly (training + diet + rest) for the past 4 or 5 years I would consider an excellent result gaining 5lbs of lean mass in a whole year if there are no AAS involved. Unfortunately our sex symbols are all juiced but can't admit it due to stigma, so we end up with distorted expectations of what can be achieved naturally (which further fuels steroid stigma, in a vicious cycle, no pun intended)
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    Jan 07, 2013 8:26 PM GMT
    I believe it is 5 lbs lean muscle because:

    -I look more chisled in front of a mirror and in pictures. I can see new muscles I haven't seen before while doing exercises in the weight room next to the mirrors. And I can do 10 pull ups now, the most I could do 2 months ago was 5.

    -My pants fit the same, in fact, they are a little bit looser. My fat gain goes straight to my hip area first.

    -I have been weighing myself for weeks now, and it would usually hover around 155. I give myself the benefit of the doubt and last night I weighed myself it was 149.5. That is the lowest I have seen it in a long time, so I am going with that, which is the most conservative number. A few months ago I was at 145 consistently. Taking into consideration the intense swimming and weight lifting workouts I have been doing and going back to eating a lot of meat protein again, I would say that isn't just water weight.
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    Jan 07, 2013 8:55 PM GMT
    JR122 said
    Impossible. I was gaining 3 pounds a month when I first started lifting. I put on muscle during that time period, but about half of the weight that I gained was fat. A pound a month (2 pounds for newbies) is a good goal for a natural with average genetics imo. A pound a week is 52 pounds a year. You'd be lucky if 15 of those pounds is muscle especially if you've been lifting for a long time like the op.


    Not at all impossible. I gained 17 pounds in two months when I finally decided to hire a trainer and fix my diet. You don't need amazing genetics or anabolics to do it, just the discipline to stick to a diet and 110% in the gym. Grats to the OP!
  • MidwesternKid

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    Jan 07, 2013 8:57 PM GMT
    Ill give you 5 of my own if you want some more. Id love to break 190.
  • chi_rock

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    Jan 07, 2013 9:14 PM GMT
    Great progress -- keep it up!
  • TheBizMan

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    Jan 07, 2013 10:07 PM GMT
    Give me them!
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    Jan 08, 2013 12:18 AM GMT
    SF79 saidNot at all impossible. I gained 17 pounds in two months when I finally decided to hire a trainer and fix my diet. You don't need amazing genetics or anabolics to do it, just the discipline to stick to a diet and 110% in the gym. Grats to the OP!


    All those people who train and eat perfectly but for some odd reason don't gain 17lbs of lean mass in two months must be doing something wrong, aren't they? You could teach them a thing or another...
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    Jan 08, 2013 12:59 AM GMT
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    SF79 saidNot at all impossible. I gained 17 pounds in two months when I finally decided to hire a trainer and fix my diet. You don't need amazing genetics or anabolics to do it, just the discipline to stick to a diet and 110% in the gym. Grats to the OP!


    All those people who train and eat perfectly but for some odd reason don't gain 17lbs of lean mass in two months must be doing something wrong, aren't they? You could teach them a thing or another...

    Exactly. 17 pounds of muscle in two months is impossible.
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    Jan 08, 2013 6:06 AM GMT
    Let me feel you up. That's the surefire way to tell.
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    Jan 08, 2013 6:12 AM GMT
    Good stuff!! Let me have at it now! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 08, 2013 9:47 PM GMT
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    chuckystud saidRealistically, you can gain five pounds in a couple of meals and drinking some water. I can swing my weight 10 pounds in a day without a problem. I can drop 2.5 pounds of water, just working out.

    You'll want to read up on gyclogen loading and how it works.

    Reality is that five pounds isn't really much of a gain. It's a variance, at best.

    Eating properly, you should be able to consistently gain about 1 to 1.5 lbs a week, until you hit a set point, and then you have to blow past that. If you're taking any androgen, you can gain about 2.5 pounds a week, or more, on average, without much trouble.

    As you can see, five pounds isn't really much to get worked up about.

    I can eat five pounds of food, when I wanta'.

    I wouldn't sweat variances of 5 or even 10 pounds.

    Remember to stay cool. It'll help your performance, and keep you from being dehydrated.

    Post contest, when nutrition partitioning is best, I can gain 30 pounds in less than 3 weeks...almost 40.

    On any given day, I can carb load to the tune of 3 to 5 pounds (water).

    I'd celebrate gains over 10, 20, or 30 pounds....five pounds is pooping. LOL.

    My ex roommate gained 85 pounds of muscle, and lowered his body fat by 2%, in just five months, and he's a type 1 diabetic. (We leveraged his lemons to make lemonade.)

    If you bring on enough calories, even without exogenous androgen, you should be able to put on a pound a week without getting fat. Likely you've struggled because you aren't eating enough.

    Impossible. I was gaining 3 pounds a month when I first started lifting. I put on muscle during that time period, but about half of the weight that I gained was fat. A pound a month (2 pounds for newbies) is a good goal for a natural with average genetics imo. A pound a week is 52 pounds a year. You'd be lucky if 15 of those pounds is muscle especially if you've been lifting for a long time like the op.


    When you are initially training, you can gain 60% in strength, within just 18 weeks. Post contest (or from a very lean state), when nutrition partitioning is at a very good point (because you are already very lean and efficient), you can make VERY RAPID gains. This is possible whether you are 13, or 80. This was researched years ago by universities all over the place. I can gain 3 pounds in a single meal. You're off your rocker.

    College red shirt football players gaining 80 lbs, or more, in their fall red shirt season is not at all unheard of. My ex-roomie gained 85 pounds, and got 2% leaner in just five months. Clearly, you don't have much experience in these matters and haven't studied it at any length. I personally have gained 30 pounds in roughly three weeks, post contest, and I certainly didn't get fat.

    Study up on muscle memory, nutrient partitioning, post contest bounce, and untrained individuals. You need to.

    You need to read up on the science.

    We're big bags of water, bone, fat, and some protein...

    I can gain 10 lbs just carbing up for a couple of days.

    There are set points. You nudge your set point by calories, and work load, and recovery. My personal set point is around 205, but, I can nudge it up to 230 by increasing my calories. Now, there is a limit to where you can put your set point (because of calories and myostatin, androgen, gh, and the like) but you can move your set point way up. Fat folks have a high weight set point, but a low metabolic set point. You can flip that around.

    That is, without trying, my body will hover at 205 (my set point). If I try to gain, I'll get up to about 230, but, it gets to the point where I can't consume enough calories to carry that much weight (I spend all my time eating.) Because I'm very active, I don't get fat at 230. My set point was 175 in high school, around 190 when I was in my 20's, and stayed about 205 since the mid 2000's. I've been studied for it (in my 20's) because my set point is naturally higher because I grew up eating lots of solid food and working out (I'm in my 39'th year.) Anyone can move their set point around.

    If you can't gain faster, you're not doing something right, even if you aren't on anything.
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    Jan 08, 2013 10:00 PM GMT
    1 lb of bodyweight does not equate to 1lb of muscle.

    bodyfat measurements before and after need to be taken to determine how much is muscle gain and how much is fat gain. calipers are the best in terms of cost and effectiveness. Also regular waist measurements at navel at the same time and day on a weekly basis will help monitor this.

    A total noob, or someone from a long gym layoff or someone who has gotten very lean (note: lean is different from just getting skinny) or post comp wherein one is very lean will see good increase in the term.

    For natural gym goers .5lb per week gain is a good increase. However .5lb increase with no increase in weights on the bar will not indicate muscle gain. A ratio of 1:3 in terms of bodyweight:bar-weight is a good indicator that gains are mostly muscle. Keep in mind law of diminishing returns is always in play.

    Those on juice will see more gains than natural trainees. They also can and will need to train more regularly. Natural trainees will need to allow more time for recovery and train less in comparison.