gay being a choice

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 07, 2013 7:33 PM GMT
    now obviously we have all heard this again and again, and we all know its definitely not a choice, but why do you think they think its a choice, it doesn't make any sense what so ever and have you ever changed some ones opinion

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzO_mMDAYQw
    warning 4:10 you will want to punch the woman

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qikeHV8oY3I
    1:00 you will want to punch him

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI1_jzPEcwU
    funny video

    a video to help you forget the morons
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qpQu64xleo
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 07, 2013 7:50 PM GMT
    Ugh, the first two videos were cringy. It's so funny that the people who aren't gay seem to know so much about being gay.

    One thing I hate is that my mom loves and accepts me for being gay, but she still insists it's a choice even though I've shoved evidence in her face countless times. One of the most frustrating things when people say that it was my choice to be gay icon_evil.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 07, 2013 10:25 PM GMT
    "They" think straight is the way everyone is made or born, so to not be straight must be a choice made by the not-straight person.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 07, 2013 10:40 PM GMT
    We need no excuse.
    Choice is irrelevant.
    If I had a choice, I would still deny anybody the right to judge morally what I do behind closed door with an adult consenting sexual partner.

    Going on the choice/no choice battle mean you admit it make a difference, and that you would be immoral to live the same life if it was a choice.

    They make you admit implicitly that what you do is wrong and you know it.

    The true debate is about the right to love and the right to have a sexual life.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 07, 2013 10:47 PM GMT
    Regardless of it is a choice or not, I should not have to justify my sexuality. But I get why you posted OP. It's kind of ludicrous how some people view homosexuality. Ignorance is the real choice being made.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 07, 2013 10:48 PM GMT
    mileshelvetica said"They" think straight is the way everyone is made or born, so to not be straight must be a choice made by the not-straight person.


    oh I've never thought of it this way, but it makes a lot of sense (no trolling here)
  • Medjai

    Posts: 2671

    Jan 07, 2013 10:49 PM GMT
    Well if you want to get technical, acting on the urges is the choice, regardless of where being gay comes from.

    All that aside though, like others have said, it's irrelevant. It doesn't matter if I'm having vanilla sex with a woman, or bound in a leather dungeon with six guys running a train on me. If its behind closed doors, between consenting adults, it's not relevant to anyone else.
  • kevmoran

    Posts: 1543

    Jan 08, 2013 12:01 AM GMT
    Cynthia Nixon feels that she chose to be a lesbian...
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 08, 2013 12:24 AM GMT
    I've beaten up myself trying to believe it was a choice. I finally realized after counseling with my pastor over the past 7 years that it's not a choice. This is how God designed me including all my imperfections. To think I woke up one morning and decided to choose my sexuality is ignorant of anyone. The sin is not embracing my sexuality, but denying it. That is the sin. If I was to falsely love a woman like I a do a man, that is the sin because God gave me my homosexuality.

    Today, I finally am moving forward with my life. I've told my mom in October and I finally sealed the last envelope with my letter explaining to my 9 brothers and sisters that this is not a choice and that I have suffered enough the bitter anguish of keeping my sexuality in the closet. I'm moving forward with my life and living true with spirit. It's time that I start living not how others want me to live, but how I want to live in communion with my God leading me at my side. It's a beautiful day and I feel the burden lifting. Amen.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 08, 2013 12:25 AM GMT
    I put a penis in my mouth of my choosing! icon_twisted.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 08, 2013 12:40 AM GMT
    I always say, So what if it's a choice? It'd be mine to make, not yours. Fuck off.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 08, 2013 12:49 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]gymfreak1987 said[/cite]now obviously we have all heard this again and again, and we all know its definitely not a choice, but why do you think they think its a choice, it doesn't make any sense what so ever and have you ever changed some ones opinion

    It's easier to justify hating or discriminating against someone who is unlike you if you can convince yourself that he made himself that way on purpose. Of course, this applies to the semi-rational and those easily deluded by demagoguery.

    Then there are the truly irrational, uneducated, or delusional who don't need any convincing.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 09, 2013 12:06 AM GMT
    JumpMan_Josh saidUgh, the first two videos were cringy. It's so funny that the people who aren't gay seem to know so much about being gay.

    One thing I hate is that my mom loves and accepts me for being gay, but she still insists it's a choice even though I've shoved evidence in her face countless times. One of the most frustrating things when people say that it was my choice to be gay icon_evil.gif


    that fucks me off too, saying it was your choice, when they have NO idea what youve been through, makes me so angry
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 09, 2013 12:12 AM GMT
    RunintheCity saidI always say, So what if it's a choice? It'd be mine to make, not yours. Fuck off.

    This is all.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 09, 2013 12:35 AM GMT
    Hahaha, I loved when he said "well you're british, you have to be at least party gay". I mean it's stupid to beleive that someone would actually choose to be gay, why would someone choose to deal with discrimantion and not the same rights. Like the other guy said it's not like the many bullied kids say oh I just figured out a way to get beaten up even more, I'll say I'm gay.

    Yes. I did want to punch that woman.
    Yes. I did want to punch that guy.
    Yes. Video is funy and the other adorable haha.

    Thanks for the post man!
  • roadbikeRob

    Posts: 14380

    Jan 15, 2013 5:31 PM GMT
    It is definitely not a choice. Being gay is naturally inborn whether these narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs like it or not.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 15, 2013 5:47 PM GMT
    Easiest way to end this conversation is "oh! I didn't know you were bisexual- since they're the only ones who have a choice. The rest of us are hardwired". Even made a hateful preacher speechless once.
  • MikeW

    Posts: 6061

    Jan 15, 2013 5:47 PM GMT
    JumpMan_Josh saidUgh, the first two videos were cringy. It's so funny that the people who aren't gay seem to know so much about being gay.

    One thing I hate is that my mom loves and accepts me for being gay, but she still insists it's a choice even though I've shoved evidence in her face countless times. One of the most frustrating things when people say that it was my choice to be gay icon_evil.gif


    Don't know if anyone has noticed but I'm on a roll with the whole "gay" word lately. For those who haven't heard me say this before, it's because I was around before the word was used as equivalent for "queer" or "homosexual."

    TO ME... being "gay" IS a choice because "gay" represents a culture or an attitude -- much the way "queer" is used by some to represent a more flamboyant sub-set of gay culture.

    That said, TO ME, being homosexual is NOT a choice.

    The way it looks to me is, "gay" was chosen to represent homosexuals because it was diminutive. You can't take people who are gay (in the original meaning of the word) very seriously, right? They're just, well, gay, carefree, happy -- not serious.

    I've always resented the word "gay". Sometimes I want to scream: I'M NOT GAY I'M A HOMOSEXUAL! Of course people would then look at me like I was crazy. What's his problem?

    Well, my problem is this cultural labeling that is DISCOUNTING what I am and allowing people to get away with thinking and saying this is a choice. It's not a fucking choice! You may choose to be a Baptist or a Democrat or a what ever... but you do not CHOOSE to be a heterosexual, right?

    /rant
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 15, 2013 5:52 PM GMT
    Nah, I was only straight cause it was cool, oh wait... isn't that why I turned gay? No, too much hate... why would anyone? Fuck this shit... this is just who I am, straight acting, or whatever. I'm just a same sex oriented person, and over it. icon_wink.gif
  • MikeW

    Posts: 6061

    Jan 15, 2013 6:04 PM GMT
    Lore_menz0 saidI'm just a same sex oriented person, and over it. icon_wink.gif

    Exactly... not "gay", HOMOSEXUAL.

    To me the word "gay" is homophobic BECAUSE it allows people to avoid talking about what they really are or what we really are: homosexual.

    ETA:

    You don't have to be proud of it but for heaven's sake it shouldn't be anything we're ashamed of, either. IT JUST IS.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 15, 2013 6:08 PM GMT
    I guess its a choice for some people and forced upon others. I didn't choose to be gay but I'm accepting of it because thats just me as a person. When I was still in my questioning stage, I hated myself and wanted to just be a normal dude, but now I can confidently say that I'm okay with it.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 15, 2013 6:13 PM GMT
    I look at it like this. I feel that we, as infants, are born as asexual, meaning we don't have any sexual attraction to either sex at all. All babies know is who is their mother is and basic functions, like crying, eating, and pooping. But as we get older, that's when we come into our sexuality, some earlier than others. It's a choice, in the sense that, a person can be attracted to the same sex, but CHOOSE to not engage in same sex activities.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 15, 2013 6:24 PM GMT
    MikeW said
    JumpMan_Josh saidUgh, the first two videos were cringy. It's so funny that the people who aren't gay seem to know so much about being gay.

    One thing I hate is that my mom loves and accepts me for being gay, but she still insists it's a choice even though I've shoved evidence in her face countless times. One of the most frustrating things when people say that it was my choice to be gay icon_evil.gif


    Don't know if anyone has noticed but I'm on a roll with the whole "gay" word lately. For those who haven't heard me say this before, it's because I was around before the word was used as equivalent for "queer" or "homosexual."

    TO ME... being "gay" IS a choice because "gay" represents a culture or an attitude -- much the way "queer" is used by some to represent a more flamboyant sub-set of gay culture.

    That said, TO ME, being homosexual is NOT a choice.

    The way it looks to me is, "gay" was chosen to represent homosexuals because it was diminutive. You can't take people who are gay (in the original meaning of the word) very seriously, right? They're just, well, gay, carefree, happy -- not serious.

    I've always resented the word "gay". Sometimes I want to scream: I'M NOT GAY I'M A HOMOSEXUAL! Of course people would then look at me like I was crazy. What's his problem?

    Well, my problem is this cultural labeling that is DISCOUNTING what I am and allowing people to get away with thinking and saying this is a choice. It's not a fucking choice! You may choose to be a Baptist or a Democrat or a what ever... but you do not CHOOSE to be a heterosexual, right?

    /rant


    you have a strong point there, word gay implies to many people feminine, flamboyant or similar activities instead of homosexuality itself, but on the other hand according to Merriam-Webster gay is
    4
    a : homosexual
    so it's more about people not understanding the term than the term being pejorative by itself
  • MikeW

    Posts: 6061

    Jan 15, 2013 6:28 PM GMT
    klobasnik saidyou have a strong point there, word gay implies to many people feminine, flamboyant or similar activities instead of homosexuality itself, but on the other hand according to Merriam-Webster gay is
    4
    a : homosexual
    so it's more about people not understanding the term than the term being pejorative by itself

    The dictionary says that NOW. It did not say that when I was a young man. Do a little research. The word came into use as a substitute for homosexual in the 1970s. Not sure when Webster adopted it but it would have been after that.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jan 15, 2013 6:32 PM GMT
    whenever i am confronted with this, i ask the person, if they could go the other way... that often gets their attention.