Employers hired based on "cultural fit" and not technical skills

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    Jan 08, 2013 4:43 AM GMT
    http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-03/job-applicants-cultural-fit-can-trump-qualifications#p2
  • thadjock

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    Jan 08, 2013 5:27 AM GMT
    i hire based on how their "jeans fit"
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    Jan 08, 2013 6:11 AM GMT
    Cultural fit should be one factor in the hiring process, but not the main factor. Even if you hire a person that is brilliant at what they do, it's pointless if they have a shitty personality and no one wants to work on the same team as that person.
  • Webster666

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    Jan 08, 2013 8:56 AM GMT
    Cultural fit ?

    How about hiring somebody who
    --is willing to show up
    --will show up, on time
    --will work, when they get there
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    Jan 08, 2013 11:45 AM GMT
    And I agree with them in large part.
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    Jan 08, 2013 5:47 PM GMT
    Heh, I remember a job I had while I was in college that still baffles me a bit how I got it. From the beginning it was rather out of my league in terms of skills, but the interview was a total click. Despite that, I definitely felt I had some gaps in qualification. I sure was shocked as hell when I got the call for an offer. I think I was simply hired for my personality because I got along well with nearly everyone at my job despite feeling a bit clueless at times.
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    Jan 08, 2013 6:07 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidCultural fit ?

    How about hiring somebody who
    --is willing to show up
    --will show up, on time
    --will work, when they get there
    I agree 100% because I think that is most important.
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    Jan 10, 2013 12:41 AM GMT

    I guess some employers are not ready for the new age way of thinking and of doing things, how well "you fit in" vs "your skills", things are gonna have to change for employers to start treating their employees the right way, not as a commodity and expense, but assets. I think they have lost there way among the profit margins.


    This what I was asked by a employer:
    Briefly summarize what you would like to do in a new job.

    This was my answer:
    Continue to expand my knowledge, build and work with teams, individual projects, solve problems, be a leader, be technical, be respected, earn trust, have fun, sometimes think out of the box, network, promote diversity, show by example, train and be trained, teach.

    I didnt get the job because i dont "fit in" to the robotic yes sir slave department
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    Jan 10, 2013 1:06 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidCultural fit ?

    How about hiring somebody who
    --is willing to show up
    --will show up, on time
    --will work, when they get there

    Exactly this.
    I can not tell you how many people I have interviewed, especially in the last 3-4 years, who I have to remind, it is not about your masters degree or how great your suit looks, I am most interested in how much trust I can put in you that you will actually do all the things you say you will/can do. Like showing up and doing everything.
    There are about 95 percent of the current workforce that appears to either be semi-retarded of have a sense that they are blessed with a much larger brain that they actually have, because many of them are just about 3 IQ points above coma and yet they are still smug enough to demand health insurance from day one.
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    Jan 10, 2013 1:29 AM GMT
    smartmoney said
    Webster666 saidCultural fit ?

    Exactly this.
    I can not tell you how many people I have interviewed, especially in the last 3-4 years, who I have to remind, it is not about your masters degree or how great your suit looks, I am most interested in how much trust I can put in you that you will actually do all the things you say you will/can do. Like showing up and doing everything.
    There are about 95 percent of the current workforce that appears to either be semi-retarded of have a sense that they are blessed with a much larger brain that they actually have, because many of them are just about 3 IQ points above coma and yet they are still smug enough to demand health insurance from day one.



    Cause they are slaves and they dont know it...........................
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    Jan 10, 2013 2:09 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidCultural fit ?

    How about hiring somebody who
    --is willing to show up
    --will show up, on time
    --will work, when they get there
    Because if they don't get along with the entire team, productivity will fall. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 10, 2013 2:11 AM GMT
    TheBizMan saidAnd I agree with them in large part.
    +1
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    Jan 10, 2013 3:18 AM GMT
    TheBizMan saidAnd I agree with them in large part.


    would many employers hire bill gates using the "cultural fit" methodology? Or Albert Einstein? i suspect not, and that's a shame. True innovators and ground breakers generally don't "fit in" with the majority, but aren't we better of because of those innovators?

    I suppose in a broad sense "cultural fit" may be appropriate. Hiring animal lovers, for example, is appropriate when staffing a zoo. Nonetheless, some employers take it too far, and two things result: there is a group of people who, while technically skilled, are effectively unemployable because they are too eccentric to "fit in" and, secondly, an undervaluing of technical skills and job knowledge occurs. What movies a job candidate likes has nothing to do with whether or not they can perform the job.

    A great part of the problem is so many people are biased against anything that is "different" from themselves, an irrational thought process that I could never understand and which is a huge contribution to many of the world's problems. It's a rather egotistical thought process, in my opinion (not saying you think that). I mean, why not just get along with others, instead of assuming the way you are is automatically better than the way others are.
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    Webster666 saidCultural fit ?

    How about hiring somebody who
    --is willing to show up
    --will show up, on time
    --will work, when they get there

    Exactly this.
    I can not tell you how many people I have interviewed, especially in the last 3-4 years, who I have to remind, it is not about your masters degree or how great your suit looks, I am most interested in how much trust I can put in you that you will actually do all the things you say you will/can do. Like showing up and doing everything.
    There are about 95 percent of the current workforce that appears to either be semi-retarded of have a sense that they are blessed with a much larger brain that they actually have, because many of them are just about 3 IQ points above coma and yet they are still smug enough to demand health insurance from day one.


    And how do you determine whether or not they will do what they say they can? A lot of people just bs their way through interviews.
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    Jan 10, 2013 7:18 AM GMT
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    TheBizMan saidAnd I agree with them in large part.


    would many employers hire bill gates using the "cultural fit" methodology? Or Albert Einstein? i suspect not, and that's a shame. True innovators and ground breakers generally don't "fit in" with the majority, but aren't we better of because of those innovators?

    I suppose in a broad sense "cultural fit" may be appropriate. Hiring animal lovers, for example, is appropriate when staffing a zoo. Nonetheless, some employers take it too far, and two things result: there is a group of people who, while technically skilled, are effectively unemployable because they are too eccentric to "fit in" and, secondly, an undervaluing of technical skills and job knowledge occurs. What movies a job candidate likes has nothing to do with whether or not they can perform the job.

    A great part of the problem is so many people are biased against anything that is "different" from themselves, an irrational thought process that I could never understand and which is a huge contribution to many of the world's problems. It's a rather egotistical thought process, in my opinion (not saying you think that). I mean, why not just get along with others, instead of assuming the way you are is automatically better than the way others are.



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    Jan 10, 2013 3:03 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    TheBizMan saidAnd I agree with them in large part.
    +1


    Actually the article points out the pitfalls in going for 'cultural fit'. icon_wink.gif