Now Available for Same-Sex Weddings: The National Cathedral

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    Jan 09, 2013 2:41 PM GMT
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57562943/national-cathedral-to-perform-same-sex-weddings/

    AP via CBS NewsThe Washington National Cathedral, where the nation gathers to mourn tragedies and celebrate new presidents, will soon begin performing same-sex marriages.

    Cathedral officials tell The Associated Press the church will be among the first Episcopal congregations to implement a new rite of marriage for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender members. The church will announce its new policy Wednesday.

    As the nation's most prominent church, the decision carries huge symbolism. The 106-year-old cathedral has long been a spiritual center for the nation, hosting presidential inaugural services and funerals for Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford. It draws hundreds of thousands of visitors.

    In light of the legality of same-sex marriage in the District of Columbia and now Maryland, the Rt. Rev. Mariann Edgar Budde, the Episcopal bishop of Washington, decided in December to allow an expansion of the Christian marriage sacrament. The diocese covers the district and four counties in Maryland. The change is allowed under a "local option" granted by the church's General Convention, church leaders said. Each priest in the diocese can then decide whether to perform same-sex unions.
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    Jan 09, 2013 3:17 PM GMT
    This makes me very proud to be an Episcopalian! Of course being in AZ, the justice train won't arrive out here for many more years, I fear!
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    Jan 09, 2013 5:20 PM GMT
    Another story on it:
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/09/16430220-washington-national-cathedral-to-celebrate-same-sex-weddings?lite
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    Jan 09, 2013 5:23 PM GMT
    That big building scares me.
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    Jan 09, 2013 5:32 PM GMT
    So much has changed (for the better) since I was a young'un. I'm glad I've lived to see all this.
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    Jan 09, 2013 5:47 PM GMT
    Lore_menz0 saidThat big building scares me.


    Awww, it's actually quite beautiful. I am not a believer by any means but one Xmas about 20 years ago we braved the crowds and went to Xmas eve service. It was lovely. (Now you have to have tickets well in advance.)
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    Jan 09, 2013 5:53 PM GMT
    Despite being an atheist, I think it's important to acknowledge the important steps made by progressive religions such as the Episcopalian church.

    Good for them!
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    Jan 09, 2013 5:56 PM GMT
    Not meant to scare. Actually it is quite a place to visit, from a tiny, one seat chapel to the huge nave. In many ways it is a giant textbook. The little carving of Kierkegaard is one of my favorites.
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    Jan 09, 2013 7:52 PM GMT
    LJay saidNot meant to scare. Actually it is quite a p[lace to visit, from a tiny, one seat chapel to the huge nave. In many ways it is a giant textbook. The little carving of Kierkegaard is one of my favorites.


    I like the moon rock. That is, if it is anything more than the manifestation of my own subconscious. :-)
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    Jan 09, 2013 9:42 PM GMT
    Mmmm
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    Jan 09, 2013 10:19 PM GMT
    showme said
    Lore_menz0 saidThat big building scares me.


    Awww, it's actually quite beautiful. I am not a believer by any means but one Xmas about 20 years ago we braved the crowds and went to Xmas eve service. It was lovely. (Now you have to have tickets well in advance.)

    Nah, it looks like the Catholic Church I used to attend growing up. Loved it when it was time to sing a hymn, but otherwise it's attached to memories from a time in my life that sometimes makes my stomach turn.
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    Jan 10, 2013 5:06 PM GMT
    Architectural History

    http://www.nationalcathedral.org/about/architecturalHistory.shtml

    Cathedral Timeline:
    http://www.nationalcathedral.org/about/timeline.shtml

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_National_Cathedral

    Such a beautiful building:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Washington+National+Cathedral&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=jPLuUObBOYXyigLmgIHQDw&ved=0CHEQsAQ&biw=1377&bih=720&sei=wfLuUKLkFOjoiwLtvYGIDQ

    Presidential Inaugural Prayer Services at Washington National Cathedral
    http://www.nationalcathedral.org/about/presidentialInaugurals.shtml

    More photos, including photos of the earthquake damage from 2011:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/washington-national-cathedral-damaged-in-earthquake/2011/08/24/gIQAb8iecJ_gallery.html#photo=17
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    Jan 10, 2013 5:10 PM GMT
    Are we supposed to care about this?

    I mean quite honestly at this point I don't care if a church decided to sponsor a goddamn pride event. I don't care what they do. I'm so done with organized religion it's not even funny.

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    Jan 10, 2013 5:14 PM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince saidAre we supposed to care about this?


    So you are the combined attitude of all gay men?
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    Jan 10, 2013 5:24 PM GMT
    ChoklitDaddy saidSo much has changed (for the better) since I was a young'un. I'm glad I've lived to see all this.


    I've mixed initial emotions. Of course I'm glad too and very glad for others but also--and I think I am avoiding being bitter but I have to fight it--I am somewhat sad that we lived for so long without our human rights such that even the victory reminds me of the oppression.
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    Jan 10, 2013 5:28 PM GMT
    MashogaNubianPrince saidAre we supposed to care about this?


    If you clicked on the thread, then yes! If you post a response in the thread, then hell yeah!
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    Jan 10, 2013 5:38 PM GMT
    Trinity Episcopal, Seattle, performed our first same-sex wedding back before Christmas...
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    Jan 17, 2013 8:04 PM GMT
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    TigerTim saidDespite being an atheist, I think it's important to acknowledge the important steps made by progressive religions such as the Episcopalian church.

    Good for them!

    Trying a last ditch effort to remain relevant is progressive?

    These churches are trying to make up for dwindling revenue. They need more dues paying members.

    It is incredibly pathetic for religious people. It makes it very clear that their entire concept of "god" is merely method of affirming their choices: "I think this is right, and so does some 'god'; I can feel good about myself." They are just stating that they believe in nothing.


    You shouldn't apply your own thought process to a group of people you know nothing about. In my parish, we have thrived for decades. Being supportive of the GLBT community was natural to us, as we always looked at the bible with a critical eye and open mind.

    About Christianity not being relevant: SO very true in most cases. They wouldn't know Jesus if he slapped them in the fat asses. And I think he would.

    My parish for me isn't about "the bible is true" or any sort of dogma. It's about a great community, having fun together, celebrating a wonderful musical history, serving the community.
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    Jan 17, 2013 8:12 PM GMT
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    MashogaNubianPrince saidAre we supposed to care about this?


    If you clicked on the thread, then yes! If you post a response in the thread, then hell yeah!


    I mean I just feel like too little too late.

    I don't care what any church has to say or what they do or don't do. I feel like the Christian religion in general is running it course pretty quickly in this nation and that's all due to the louder hateful people who represent it.

    Irreligious/no religion is quickly becoming the fastest group in this country.
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    Jan 17, 2013 10:32 PM GMT
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    dayumm said
    MashogaNubianPrince saidAre we supposed to care about this?


    If you clicked on the thread, then yes! If you post a response in the thread, then hell yeah!


    I mean I just feel like too little too late.

    I don't care what any church has to say or what they do or don't do. I feel like the Christian religion in general is running it course pretty quickly in this nation and that's all due to the louder hateful people who represent it.

    Irreligious/no religion is quickly becoming the fastest group in this country.


    And even being among that fastest group, I recognize some people who are religious, and plan to remain so, will want to marry in a welcoming venue such as this. There's no compulsory for such individuals to de-commit themselves before getting wed.
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    Jan 17, 2013 10:38 PM GMT
    Good to hear! I've been inside. That would be a beautiful place for a ceremony!
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    Jan 17, 2013 11:37 PM GMT
    It's a gorgeous cathedral. I love the Space Window.