Idaho Senator Pleads Guilty After Arrest In Restroom

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    Aug 28, 2007 4:28 AM GMT
    Sen. Larry E. Craig pleaded guilty earlier this month to misdemeanor disorderly-conduct charges stemming from his June arrest by an undercover police officer in a men's restroom at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, a court spokeswoman and the senator's office said yesterday.

    It mentions this in the article, but last year a blogger "outed" Craig, saying that he had relations with Craig in the past. I hadn't believed it at first, but then I worked in the state capitol this last winter and apparently there have been rumors flying around the capitol for years about the Senator's proclivities. I have no doubts that he made a pass at the officer.

    Sen. Craig has a strongly anti-gay record, which only makes this story more delicious.
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    Aug 28, 2007 5:50 AM GMT
    What I find ironic is that this happened in an airport restroom. Why is tapping your foot while sitting on the toilet in the mens restroom condidered lewd conduct? I guess this is some signal I didn't know about to pick up guys in airports. (I gotta try that one). Don't most heterosexuals who have joined the mile high club brag about it and wouldn't even consider it lewd? My question is; why when heterosexuals have sex in the plane restroom it's something to brag about, but if a homosexual just tries to pick up a guy in a bathroom stall it's considered lewd?
  • GQjock

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    Aug 28, 2007 5:52 AM GMT
    I wish these closet case republicans would knock it off...

    Don't they realize the germs they can get on the bathroom floor? :)
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    Aug 28, 2007 5:56 AM GMT
    tmaytj:

    Straight couples can be booked for lewd conduct if caught having sex in a public restroom or plane restroom as well. But then, how often is it that a man has a chance to try picking up a woman in a public restroom?

    I think you're seeing something that's not there.
  • jc_online

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    Aug 28, 2007 11:51 AM GMT
    I agree with GQ - the closeted gay bashing/hating republican legislator/public figure senario is really getting old, tired, and boring. I say instead of jail or a fine, we sign them up for counseling - or better yet a weekend at BodyElectric!
  • zakariahzol

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    Aug 28, 2007 11:54 AM GMT
    IMHO, we should at very least feel sorry for him. After all he in the position where its not possible to be open. It could have happen to me(and so many other gay men) , I mean I use to do that . Picking up guy in the public restroom during my younger days.

    After all being a public figure he really cant risk it going to gay club or gay bar. I dont know about his anti-gay stand but as a fellow gay I do feel sad for his misfortune.
  • jc_online

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    Aug 28, 2007 12:29 PM GMT
    Oh, I do feel sorry for him; but not for his misfortune. I feel sorry that his self esteem is suffering because of American society's conservative pressure on gay and bisexual men. Men like him don't risk being fully who they are because they might not be "electable". It is sad.

    I think it's time we throw all that bull$h*# out the window. But that's easy for me to say, since I've chosen a profession and friends who support me for who I am, not what that want me to be, or not be.

    It is sad. But there are healthier ways to explore or satisfy his desires than coming on to men in public restrooms. I'm over seeing this kind of behavior again and again in the media.
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    Aug 28, 2007 12:52 PM GMT
    The head of our rapid transit authority in Atlanta was busted a few months ago for the same kind of behavior.

    My understanding is that people waiting for flights place ads on Craiglist to meet in a restroom. The airport police read the ads and join them.

    Although I'm glad another gay Republican homophobe has outed himself in embarassing fashion, I think patrolling restrooms for men who play footsie in the stalls is silly.

    I think I mentioned this before: There is a famous training film from the '50s, I believe, that teaches cops how to catch guys having sex in the bathroom. They install a camera and arrest about 50 men. The thing is that in every case, the men stopped what they were doing whenever anyone entered the restroom and a majority of them went into a stall, anyway. In other words, the only thing that made the sex truly public was the presence of the police camera. Every one of the men was married, btw.
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    Aug 28, 2007 2:10 PM GMT
    "I think patrolling restrooms for men who play footsie in the stalls is silly."

    Sure, but how would you feel if they were playing paddycake? It's all good fun until someone loses an eye.
  • jarhead5536

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    Aug 28, 2007 2:31 PM GMT
    You know, this would be sad if it weren't so, uh, delicious. Why do closeted, self-loathing gay men marry, have children and become Republicans? If this had been a liberal Democrat who was pro-gay rights, I would feel sorry for him. Instead, I feel sorry for his wife and children, and a sense of smug satisfaction for his fate. This troll supported DADT, DOMA, opposed hate crimes legislation, civil unions and AIDS research. I understand that our culture produces these pathetic figures frequently, and will until we get over our collective homophobia, but why would he go out of his way to be so virulently anti-gay?

    Schadenfreude, anyone?
  • swimbikerun

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    Aug 28, 2007 3:09 PM GMT
    I thought I recognized that guy,lol!
  • jarhead5536

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    Aug 28, 2007 3:21 PM GMT
    swimbikerun,

    Why? You haven't been hanging out in the men's room in the Minneapolis airport, have you?
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    Aug 28, 2007 3:26 PM GMT
    I think the reason gay marriage frightens these men is because if marriage were legal and reasonably acceptable, these men would have to ask themselves the difficult question "Do I want to spend my life with a man or woman?" It takes a certain amount of courage to admit you'd really rather be married to a man. As long as marriage is unavailable, you don't have to make that choice.

    These men fight gay marriage because they never want to look honestly at themselves and make that choice.

  • zakariahzol

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    Aug 28, 2007 3:46 PM GMT
    Jarhead,

    Do you feel "delicious" when George Michael was arrested under kinda same situation. Just like that senator, George also in the situation where he cannot meet other gay men the way we non celebrities do.

    He have his career to think of. Though I dont really think his popularity went down after that incident. Most people behave the way there are, not because of their choice. Just like Ennis and Jack in Brokeback, living in conservative midwest in 1960's, with the entire community against them , there really not much choice but to be like everybody else. I dont think it right for them to get marriage and still picking up guy in the toilet but I understand their situation.
  • jarhead5536

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    Aug 28, 2007 3:52 PM GMT
    Hang on a second.

    I feel nothing but contempt for this man, and take GREAT joy in his downfall. He is not George Michael. Mr. Michael NEVER went out of his way to demonize or marginalize anyone. Closet cases that spout hatred and vitriol deserve EVERY FUCKING THING THEY GET when they are outed in extremely embarrassing ways. I will not apologize to anyone for my opinion in this matter. I only pity his wife and children.

    In any case, sex in a filthy public restroom is kind of gross, no matter who does it. I felt bad for George when it happened to him 'cuz I figured that he would have the means to find someplace, or someone, better to take of matters. It is illegal after all.
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    Aug 28, 2007 4:00 PM GMT
    Zak,

    As Jarhead has pointed out, this man does not really deserve our pity. His family, yes, but not him.

    Craig has spent his career in opposition to every gay rights issue there has been. On any gay rights vote that has mattered, he has consistently voted to oppose the rights of gays and lesbians.

    It has nothing to do with the fact that he's closeted. I would feel bad for any normal closeted person who is outed. It's the fact that he has so often been an utter hypocrite and worked against gays and lesbians that makes me lose any pity I might have had for him. Any public official who's going to try and be on the downlow and then publicly oppose the rights of gays and lesbians deserves to go down.
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    Aug 28, 2007 4:04 PM GMT
    ashpenaz, you know, I'd never thought of that. With all the raging for and against, I'd never thought about that as one of the possible underlying reasons for these guys - the most vocal of them all - to be so belligerent. I mean, I realize there's got to be some kind of pathology going on but have never heard that advanced as a reason.
  • jarhead5536

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    Aug 28, 2007 4:09 PM GMT
    Such men experience self-loathing on a scale that none of us can comprehend. This is textbook internalized homophobia. I must destroy in other what I despise about myself.

    You know? I hate things about myself, too, but I don't go around ruining other people's lives to make that point!
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    Aug 28, 2007 4:22 PM GMT
    He sure does look like the garden-variety of toilet-troll in his photo on the Washington Post website...
  • jarhead5536

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    Aug 28, 2007 4:26 PM GMT
    This kind of shit is the very reason I decided that I would come out at 17 in 1981. I would rather face the bigotry than become a hideous old troll lurking in the toilet for unsuspecting boys. What a sad, sad existence. Couldn't happen to a nicer fella...
  • craigindc

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    Aug 28, 2007 4:34 PM GMT
    I totally agree with Jarhead...feel sorry for the guy? You have got to be kidding. This is not the 50s, and whether it is difficult or not in his profession, it is his CHOICE to be closeted. And to persecute the rest of us.
    If he was not working against us, I would say leave him alone. But actively trying to amend the constitution to discriminate against me? His comeuppance is delicious(as someone else said).
    That said, I feel bad for his family and wish they did not have to go through this. Of course we do not know his family--for all we know, his wife may already know he likes men--but the restroom part has gotta be difficult for them.
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    Aug 28, 2007 5:06 PM GMT
    I think there are a lot of guys who don't want to marry women but they are terrified of the fact that they want to spend their life with a guy. If gay marriage becomes legal and acceptable, then they will have to take a hard, honest look at themselves. If what they secretly desire suddenly becomes an option, then they will have to go through the agonizing prospect of making a choice.

    I think gay marriage is frightening to a lot of men because they want it, but they don't want to have to admit to themselves that they want it. As long as gay marriage stays illegal, they never have to face that choice.

    (I think a lot of gay men are afraid of gay marriage, too, because it will force them to admit they really want to settle down with just one guy. As long as gay marriage is illegal, they can always blame society for their lack of stability. If gay marriage becomes legal, then gay men will have to take a hard, honest look at themselves and make the choice to settle down into a long-term, responsible relationships. Some gays, of course, are doing that already--but many gays are still afraid of marriage and committment.)
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    Aug 28, 2007 5:46 PM GMT
    What's that lovely smell that reminds me of shit? Oh wait, it's that good ole' Republican Hypocrisy! God, this is getting so old.

    Since someone brought up "Brokeback Mountain" as an example of "not having a choice," I should say that if some men were living open lives, even in the 60's, then the option was there. Freedom of choice is a terrible burden but let's not pretend people are victims of time, place, context, etc. If that film highlighted anything, IMHO, it was how selfish, misogynistic, and self-loathing closet cases can be. Our Senator is but one example.

    In a related note, the real beef for me lies with these "law enforcers" entraping men and criminalizing sexual behavior. That really needs to end ASAP and we as a democratic society would do well to find accomadations for public sex/cruising rather than pretend it doesn't exist/is criminal because we do/don't condone it. My 2, pretty boys.
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    Aug 28, 2007 6:00 PM GMT
    Whenever I hear about a story like this I am reminded of those cartoon stories I watched as a kid, where you hear how the arch-villain became so. In other words, this is hypocrisy and irony of tragic, almost comic-book proportions.

    I don't know how a person like this could live without being so stressed and conflicted that cancer didn't set in long ago.

    That being said, as a politically-frustrated 'mo, I admit to taking a bit of spiteful pleasure in this...until I consider his wife and kids.

    Scumbag.
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    Aug 28, 2007 6:31 PM GMT
    I'm taking a lot of pleasure in this. Shades of Foley, Haggard. Before you know it, Dubya Gump will get caught giving head to Dick Cheney on the white house lawn. Dick will say "No, I was trying to shoot him in the face!".