gym showers, open or closed?

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    Jan 13, 2013 5:01 AM GMT
    In Europe, the open gym shower is no big deal, why do american gyms insist on shower stalls, doors or curtains? In high school, it was open space, military def uses open and so do some bath houses. My gym uses the stall with either curtain or doors, really not needed esp for sanitary and up keep reasons?
    Sometimes I just leave the curtain open, i dont want to touch that thing. Its one thing in your own home to avoid water on floor. Whats wrong with you men who cant take showers in one room? What do you prefer and why? your gym?


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    Jan 13, 2013 5:22 AM GMT
    Almost all the gyms I've been in have gang showers. I've only been in one or two minor-league gyms that had stalls. They were too small and really uncomfortable.

    When i was a wimp, I tried to be invisible in the showers, and basically, I was. No problem.

    Now, strangely, I find that I get off a little on showing off in the showers. No problem.

    BTW: My college dorm also had gang showers. On our floor, we had three of them for a bout fifty guys. The custom was, if your roommate was having sex with his girlfriend in the shower, you had to stand guard at the door. I assume it would be the same with two guys. I don't know how it would work if your roommate was your lover, though.
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    Jan 13, 2013 5:27 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidAlmost all the gyms I've been in have gang showers. I've only been in one or two minor-league gyms that had stalls. They were too small and really uncomfortable.

    When i was a wimp, I tried to be invisible in the showers, and basically, I was. No problem.

    Now, strangely, I find that I get off a little on showing off in the showers. No problem.

    BTW: My college dorm also had gang showers. On our floor, we had three of them for a bout fifty guys. The custom was, if your roommate was having sex with his girlfriend in the shower, you had to stand guard at the door. I assume it would be the same with two guys. I don't know how it would work if your roommate was your lover, though.


    I am hoping when the old Ballys get renovated, they go back to using the gang style showers, i dunno, we have become too modest i guess, and so what if one gets a boner, isnt that natural? icon_redface.gificon_razz.gificon_wink.gif
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    Jan 13, 2013 5:37 AM GMT
    scruffLA saidIn Europe, the open gym shower is no big deal, why do american gyms insist on shower stalls, doors or curtains? In high school, it was open space, military def uses open and so do some bath houses. My gym uses the stall with either curtain or doors, really not needed esp for sanitary and up keep reasons?
    Sometimes I just leave the curtain open, i dont want to touch that thing. Its one thing in your own home to avoid water on floor. Whats wrong with you men who cant take showers in one room? What do you prefer and why? your gym?


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    at least leave the curtains and doors off if its a stall, ive seen more action in the stalls with curtains than any other, im just sayin
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    Jan 13, 2013 5:41 AM GMT
    I'm all about a little mystery. Peekaboo showers, anyone?

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    Jan 13, 2013 5:42 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidI'm all about a little mystery. Peekaboo showers, anyone?

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    LOL, ive never seen those, but clever, is that a club?
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    Jan 13, 2013 6:36 AM GMT
    Not sure where that photo was taken, but Crunch Fitness has 'em. I'd love to use one in a fat suit with a prosthetic.
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    Jan 13, 2013 7:33 AM GMT
    scruffLA saidIn Europe, the open gym shower is no big deal, why do american gyms insist on shower stalls, doors or curtains? In high school, it was open space, military def uses open and so do some bath houses. My gym uses the stall with either curtain or doors, really not needed esp for sanitary and up keep reasons?
    Sometimes I just leave the curtain open, i dont want to touch that thing. Its one thing in your own home to avoid water on floor. Whats wrong with you men who cant take showers in one room? What do you prefer and why? your gym?
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    Jan 13, 2013 10:49 AM GMT
    American men have acquired undue modesty in the last few decades, and I'm not sure why. But not all men go along with it.

    A few years ago I was using an indoor pool near Minneapolis. The men's locker room had what could have been a large open gang shower, no partitions. But ceiling tracks had been installed for white plastic curtains, to create separate shower cubicles. It looked sorta like some older hospital ER's and wards.

    And most of the guys didn't close the curtains, evidently not requiring the privacy, nor liking the darkened cramped space. And further defeating the purpose of the curtains was a line of body dryers right outside the shower. Basically wall-mounted hand dryers but mounted high enough to blow down onto your hair and body, they were out in the open, so guys were all in a row using them nude after their showers. The management went to the trouble of installing the shower curtains so you could have privacy standing under the water spray, but you had none standing under the hot air. icon_question.gif

    Furthermore, the sauna prohibited any clothing, but you could bring in a towel, which most guys just used for sitting on, but otherwise naked. And of course you'd be undressed in the open at the locker area, where I saw no towel dances. So that the elaborate shower curtain arrangement seemed an expensive and clumsy solution that no one needed or wanted.
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    Jan 13, 2013 7:04 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidAmerican men have acquired undue modesty in the last few decades, and I'm not sure why. But not all men go along with it.

    A few years ago I was using an indoor pool near Minneapolis. The men's locker room had what could have been a large open gang shower, no partitions. But ceiling tracks had been installed for white plastic curtains, to create separate shower cubicles. It looked sorta like some older hospital ER's and wards.

    And most of the guys didn't close the curtains, evidently not requiring the privacy, nor liking the darkened cramped space. And further defeating the purpose of the curtains was a line of body dryers right outside the shower. Basically wall-mounted hand dryers but mounted high enough to blow down onto your hair and body, they were out in the open, so guys were all in a row using them nude after their showers. The management went to the trouble of installing the shower curtains so you could have privacy standing under the water spray, but you had none standing under the hot air. icon_question.gif

    Furthermore, the sauna prohibited any clothing, but you could bring in a towel, which most guys just used for sitting on, but otherwise naked. And of course you'd be undressed in the open at the locker area, where I saw no towel dances. So that the elaborate shower curtain arrangement seemed an expensive and clumsy solution that no one needed or wanted.



    ive seen and used the wall mounted dryers at another gym, but ive never seen plastic curtians in tracks hanging from ceiling other than you said, an ER room, sounds like a waste of membership money, this probably happened during the 80's, that decade put us all back icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 13, 2013 7:07 PM GMT
    I prefer a private shower stall.
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    Jan 13, 2013 7:15 PM GMT

    Interesting, somebody wrote about it

    I explained to her that in the men's locker room, there is a small room with nozzles sticking out of the wall vs. the stalls with privacy curtains for the showers in the women's locker room. Why is there this inequity?

    It appears that these stalls with curtains are for womens locker rooms, maybe these gyms with shower stalls were once like ladies only gyms?

    http://dancsblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/shower-inequality.html
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    Jan 13, 2013 8:09 PM GMT
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    Interesting, somebody wrote about it

    I explained to her that in the men's locker room, there is a small room with nozzles sticking out of the wall vs. the stalls with privacy curtains for the showers in the women's locker room. Why is there this inequity?

    It appears that these stalls with curtains are for womens locker rooms, maybe these gyms with shower stalls were once like ladies only gyms?

    http://dancsblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/shower-inequality.html


    I remember one time at work, the "restrooms" needed extensive repairs, and for a while, the "ladies" room on our floor was the designated "mens" room. We were stunned. They had a little lounge area in there, a couple of couches, their own coffee machine! icon_eek.gif WTF? Equality? They were like, "Yeah, but you guys have urinals. icon_rolleyes.gif"
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    Jan 13, 2013 8:44 PM GMT
    American's are all about their "personal space"

    What I find REALLY funny is when people poke little peep holes into the curtains. It seems they are putting in a new shower curtain at my University gym every week for this reason.icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 13, 2013 9:25 PM GMT
    I have been to a few gyms here in London and they mostly have the cubicles. I went to a boxing gym a couple of times which had 3 showerheads curtained off in quite a small area of the changing rooms. It felt a bit weird really, seemed like more people would skip the shower there. I get very sweaty at the gym so not really a choice for me.
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    Jan 13, 2013 10:12 PM GMT
    TheBizMan saidAmerican's are all about their "personal space"

    What I find REALLY funny is when people poke little peep holes into the curtains. It seems they are putting in a new shower curtain at my University gym every week for this reason.icon_lol.gif



    LOL, ive seen the peep holes too, if the curtains were not there to begin with, we wouldnt even see this and the extra expense in replacing them, this adds unnecessary cost to a gym membership or in your case, tuition. Stupid price to pay for modesty
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    Jan 13, 2013 10:40 PM GMT
    LOL. Did the admins remove the original photo that was in first post?
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    Jan 13, 2013 11:08 PM GMT
    xrichx saidLOL. Did the admins remove the original photo that was in first post?


    i think so, it was nakkid men just showering gang style, i replaced that photo with the one from the article showing just the shower room
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    Mar 18, 2013 9:11 AM GMT
    I've been to a variety of gyms here in the UK with different set-ups:

    Uni - open showers, about 4 shower heads per stall

    Council gym - individual, solid divides

    Council pool - communal, open showers in unisex changing rooms, so keep swimmers on

    Total Fitness - individual cubicle, no door/curtain

    JJB - open showers, about 20 showe heads per room, on all four walls

    Virgin Active - individual cubicle, smoked glass doors/divides


    I think the door is unnecessary, but do prefer a divide between each showe head so it's not completely open
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    Mar 18, 2013 11:05 AM GMT
    I think closed gym showers and American guys being overly modest stem from two things: homophobia and porn. It's ironic but the more accepting we are of gays, the more repressed we seem to become about public nudity in schools, gyms, etc.

    In the 50s and 60s, someone being gay in the showers wasn't really an option. It didn't cross anyone's mind that any of their contemporaries could be attracted to dudes. The male nude body also wasn't sexualized, much like everything in that time period. If nothing is sexualized, then there's nothing to "fear." Hence almost everyone being extremely comfortable in gang showers. Being naked with other guys was normal.

    Somehow over the last 50 years there has been a huge modesty movement. I feel like so many guys, especially my age, view it "gay" to shower in a room with other nude men. There is a constant fear of being checked out by a gay guy. In effect, the demand for privacy goes up, and there are less and less gang showers. It seems like the more we are aware of gay people in society, the more we are afraid of getting cruised by a dude when naked.

    This modesty is also reinforced by porn. Because young guys don't see other normal guys nude, they have a skewed view about penis size. Kids probably grow up thinking the cocks they see in porn are the norm, and that they are probably well below average, and are self-conscious about their naked bodies.

    The only way to buck this trend is to shower out in the open and be comfortable about it. Showering is NOT sexual and the nude body is nothing to be ashamed of.

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    Mar 18, 2013 1:18 PM GMT
    OPEN, please!


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    Mar 18, 2013 3:18 PM GMT
    TallNYguy said
    Somehow over the last 50 years there has been a huge modesty movement. I feel like so many guys, especially my age, view it "gay" to shower in a room with other nude men.

    Agree. At 64 I'm old enought to remember when the opposite was true. You were "queer" and a sissy if you were embarrassed & reluctant to shower or swim nude with other men or boys (when many indoors pools for males were suitless, and skinnydipping at outdoor camps was unremarkable).

    "Real men" weren't concerned about being naked in front of other guys. Why should you be, since a real man was only sexually interested in women. And as we boys were told by adult coaches, camp counselors, etc: "Don't be shy, you're all built the same way." Or they'd try to shame us out of our shame: "What are you, a girl?"

    Because we were aware that girls didn't swim nude, and likely had private shower stalls instead of open gang showers, since they were the shy & "delicate" ones. But not us boys & men. It was our exclusive manly privilege to be nude together, a sign of our masculinity, a perk of belonging to the male "club". And not an indication of being a homo, just the opposite, since sissy queers were shy & delicate like girls, we all "knew" that.

    Today it's all reversed. Gays are assumed to be exhibitionists, and straights do the towel dance. Very strange to me to have witnessed this complete turnaround in my own lifetime. icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 18, 2013 4:05 PM GMT
    what ? u dont get boners & hard ons , isnt it something u should be worried off ?

    ur taking a shower , couple of nice looking guys creep in , Damn , u get a hard cock & they're like man ,how u got that big cock, & u start precumming & masturbating looking at them
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    Mar 18, 2013 5:12 PM GMT
    When I swam laps at the YMCA at 40 (and looked 25) I loved the gang shower because I was loaded down with heavy swim gear (zoomer fins, gloves, cap, goggles) and an arsenal of chlorine removal toiletries (swim-related skincare that kept it from drying out and reeking of chlorine is where I get metro) and needed the space to put it all down and rinse it all off. I wore a lightweight speedo because everybody did and considered a towel just one more thing to carry so I walked around buck-naked all the way to my locker with hardly a care, also because I slathered my wet body down with anti-chlorine lotion post-shower anyway. Why that particular gang shower? Because of the times and the demographic - mostly old men. Were they gay creepers? Probably not, and even if they were I wouldn't have cared because no one had camera phones then. It was in fact probably the most convivial yet overly-compensating-hetero environment I was ever in what with all the geezers hanging out in the showers for 20 minute stretches trash talking the Red Sox or what ev, even though I half expected them to start washing each other's backs at any given moment.

    These days I've ditched the Y even though I can barely turn around in their stall showers with all my stuff, but not just because it's far less crowded - now, every young guy (and there are plenty more at the Y now) is texting and talking and timing himself in the locker room and even the sauna(!) with an iphone despite the no-cellphones-in-the-locker-room signs. I never let anything get out on the internet that I wouldn't want my own 99 year old grandmother to see, so I now too do the towel dance.
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    Mar 19, 2013 1:34 AM GMT
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    Sometimes I just leave the curtain open, i dont want to touch that thing. Its one thing in your own home to avoid water on floor. Whats wrong with you men who cant take showers in one room? What do you prefer and why? your gym?

    My gym curtains can sometimes be kinda gross so would prefer to keep them open. But I feel like people will view me as creepy leaving myself in full view if they are across from me, so don't really have a choice.