Canada moving to end lifetime blood donation ban on gay men

  • metta

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    Jan 13, 2013 6:24 AM GMT
    Canada moving to end lifetime blood donation ban on gay men

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/canada-moving-end-lifetime-blood-donation-ban-gay-men130113
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    Jan 13, 2013 6:35 AM GMT
    We as gay men should be gracious that if we abstain from sex for five years; once again we may donate blood and get a free juice and cookie afterward.

    I'm guessing this means only the gay priests will be donating because I certainly will not sacrifice 5 years of sex for a cookie.
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    Jan 13, 2013 6:44 AM GMT
    26mileman saidWe as gay men should be gracious that if we abstain from sex for five years; once again we may donate blood and get a free juice and cookie afterward.

    I'm guessing this means only the gay priests will be donating because I certainly will not sacrifice 5 years of sex for a cookie.
    You don't have to go five years without sex...just five years without sex with guys above age 17.
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    Jan 13, 2013 6:48 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    26mileman saidWe as gay men should be gracious that if we abstain from sex for five years; once again we may donate blood and get a free juice and cookie afterward.

    I'm guessing this means only the gay priests will be donating because I certainly will not sacrifice 5 years of sex for a cookie.
    You don't have to go five years without sex...just five years without sex with guys above age 17.


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  • stratavos

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    Jan 13, 2013 6:56 PM GMT
    Shawnathan saidIt's a start


    indeed. I know that at this point in my life... if the celibacy time frame was reduced to 3 months wait (even to the day) I actually would be able to give blood then... but yeah... current standards of 5 years and 1 year are too long for a young-un like me >.<;
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    Jan 14, 2013 5:47 AM GMT
    It's a stupid law to begin with.
  • crisisgray

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    Jan 14, 2013 6:09 AM GMT
    Do you still need my blood or what?icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 14, 2013 6:22 AM GMT
    Ugh...we need to roll this ball faster!
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    Jan 14, 2013 6:23 AM GMT
    I suppose I will be keeping my AB- till the US abolishes their backwards policies.
  • Medjai

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    Jan 14, 2013 6:27 AM GMT
    Well, it's a step, but it's still an inappropriate generalization.
  • Garou29

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    May 22, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
    http://www.elmundo.es/elmundosalud/2013/05/22/noticias/1369245847.html

    Even in Spain we heard about it. The funny thing is that a few of the people commenting on the site doubt this can be real news... or that it can be a realistic measure.

    I fully disagree about "being a step forward", I'm afraid. The difference between Never and 5 years celibate is almost non-existent. To me it seems like a terrible exercise of politically correct bullshit.

    However, I am sure there are guys here with more knowledge about the topic who can offer some suggestions about the rationale of this measure, especially about the 5 year period part (why not 3, 4 or 20...).

    It's true there are other countries that also have a similar ban, but most of them keep it to one year. Only New Zeland has the 5 year period too (according to the wiki, at least).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_male_blood_donor_controversy#List_of_countries_with_their_stand_on_MSM_blood_donors

    I'm not surprised about the US having the permanent ban, but I thought Canada was more or less over these kind of issues.
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    May 22, 2013 8:56 PM GMT
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    May 22, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
    A 5-year period of gay celibacy? That's an insult.

    And what about blood from gays who don't admit to being gay? How safe is that blood? Or gays and straights who are HIV+ and don't know it, and get to donate anyway?

    What happens to that blood? Doesn't it get tested after the draw, to screen-out HIV? If not, that means HIV+ blood is in the blood bank system right now.

    And if it's not, because of post-draw screening tests, then why are gays banned at all?

    This is a very emotional subject for me, because I was permanently banned from giving blood in the US, right after 9/11, when I attempted to donate and admitted I was gay during the screening. Yet my blood remains totally disease-free to this day, never an STI in my life, and a rare type, as well.

    But I can't donate. Yet any homeless person or prostitute can walk into a US blood bank off the street and add their blood to the supply. Wonderful system. icon_mad.gif
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    May 23, 2013 12:54 AM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    But I can't donate. Yet any homeless person or prostitute can walk into a US blood bank off the street and add their blood to the supply. Wonderful system. icon_mad.gif


    Prostitutes can't donate either.
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    May 23, 2013 1:09 AM GMT
    Sorry I don’t see this as a step forward at all, more like a bigger insult then having the ban for life in place.

    Simple solution: On the questions asked in pre-blood giving, ask blood giver if he has had sex with another man. If that answer is yes, then still take his blood, but give it another tag. This tag means that the blood will be kept for a longer period of time for testing. So once they are 100% sure the blood is safe, it can be given to people who seriously need it.

    Done. I don’t understand why that is so hard.
  • Sportsfan1

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    May 23, 2013 1:41 AM GMT
    It is about time. Due to my very healthy life style I am asked to donate blood often but have to decline because of the ban. I am drug and disease free and practice safe sex. Why should I be banned. I am tested regularly and have always tested negative to everything. I do not drink or smoke and eat avery healthy diet. Hope I will be able to give the gift of life soon.
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    May 23, 2013 1:45 AM GMT
    charlitos saidIt's a stupid law to begin with.


    I never even knew there was such a ban...what hell is wrong with people. They need to lift that ban and never consider bringing it back!
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    May 23, 2013 1:47 AM GMT
    metta8 saidCanada moving to end lifetime blood donation ban on gay men

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/canada-moving-end-lifetime-blood-donation-ban-gay-men130113


    total bullshit and homophobic. who the fuck is not going to fuck for five years, just to give blood. like heteros aren't slut-bags and have HIV.
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    May 23, 2013 1:48 AM GMT
    Steel101 said
    charlitos saidIt's a stupid law to begin with.


    I never even knew there was such a ban...what hell is wrong with people. They need to lift that ban and never consider bringing it back!


    dude the ban has been in place in the US since the late 80's
  • Apparition

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    May 23, 2013 4:31 AM GMT
    as a lazy ass, living guilt free about not donating is a-ok with me. lot of other battles to fight first
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    May 23, 2013 4:42 AM GMT
    Cardinal724 said
    ART_DECO said
    But I can't donate. Yet any homeless person or prostitute can walk into a US blood bank off the street and add their blood to the supply. Wonderful system. icon_mad.gif

    Prostitutes can't donate either.

    They can if they don't self-identify or are not otherwise known as prostitutes, just like gay men can still donate if they don't admit their orientation or sexual activities when screened.

    So where's the safety in the blood supply? Oh, the tests that are run afterwards on the blood collected? Well, self-identified gay men would also have their blood screened before it was used. So why are they permanently banned in the US, regardless of what their actual health status may be?