Nutrition advice?

  • christastic

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    Jan 14, 2013 2:08 AM GMT
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    I want to get to the above level of physique, which is maybe 20 pounds more weight. I don't want to be huge, but I want to get to that level hopefully before summer!

    I have a general idea of which muscle groups to target, and do each area once per week (work out 2-3 times a week). It's also pretty sporadic as I don't want to spend time being one of those guys who keeps a logbook of every set and rep lol.

    A typical week looks like this:
    Day 1: squats/back/legs
    Day 2: shoulders/biceps
    Day 3: chest/forearms

    I tend to go for light weights and proper form, to the point of making it extra hard sometimes. My diet is a generally-healthy mix of meat, eggs, veggies and pasta, but I don't intend on going out of my way to eat extra fish or some special diet.

    As for "extra" nutrition... I'm not a chemist, and don't want to be juggling when to take one thing or another, but I'm willing to get one big bucket of SOMETHING and have a protein shake after I get home from the gym. What should I get, and why are there so many brands/types!?!??
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    Jan 14, 2013 2:16 AM GMT
    lonesomepidgeon saidNutrition advice?
    Don't starve.
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    Jan 14, 2013 2:22 AM GMT
    ^^Well I know that much haha.

    What if I get lazy and have only one big meal a day (either lunch/dinner) besides cereal + sandwiches/snacks for the 2 meals... will protein shakes make up some of that loss? I don't want fat afterall, just muscle!
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    Jan 14, 2013 2:38 AM GMT
    Try that out and see what it does to your body. If it does what you want (and your energy level is acceptable) then stick with it.

    If not, do something different.
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    Jan 14, 2013 8:51 AM GMT
    lonesomepidgeon said^^Well I know that much haha.

    What if I get lazy and have only one big meal a day (either lunch/dinner) besides cereal + sandwiches/snacks for the 2 meals... will protein shakes make up some of that loss? I don't want fat afterall, just muscle!




    some folks do a fasting kind of workout diet, where they eat all of their calories in a short time of the day,, this is pretty advanced.....

    i say eat 5 meals a day.. adjusted to your specific needs.. dont under eat. but be clear on what you are achieving....

    i dont mean to plug p90x all the time, but something like this can really help you learn very quickly...

    good luck, oh, and were all going to need pics.... lots of pics!!!!icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 15, 2013 4:36 AM GMT
    lonesomepidgeon said
    A typical week looks like this:
    Day 1: squats/back/legs
    Day 2: shoulders/biceps
    Day 3: chest/forearms


    ^^This is misleading. I'm never that organized. I generally do those muscle groups together, but when and in which order really depends on whatever machine is free, and where the hot guys are at the moment lol. So anything p90x-related is too much of an investment in time/planning haha.

    What about nutrition? I heard you can't go wrong with whey protein, but which of the 50-or so brands!? Keep in mind I prefer lean muscle over plain mass.
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    Jan 15, 2013 4:45 AM GMT
    Mass = Definition, without mass you wont have definition
  • christastic

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    Jan 15, 2013 4:54 AM GMT
    What I'm saying is I want to lean bulk. I know guys who take tons of stuff, and have thick shapeless arms and bird-chested boob pecs lol... trying to avoid that
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    Jan 15, 2013 5:13 AM GMT
    lonesomepidgeon saidWhat I'm saying is I want to lean bulk. I know guys who take tons of stuff, and have thick shapeless arms and bird-chested boob pecs lol... trying to avoid that


    You could try leangains (intermittent fasting, mentioned above), which is designed to allow gaining muscle with minimum fat gains. Otherwise, know that you can't generally gain muscle mass without some fat.
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    Jan 15, 2013 5:18 PM GMT
    the p90x thing is more than daily organizations.... its a diet routine as well. it will help you understand how and when to eat..

    also the workouts offer you the choice of either bulking, or going for lean..

    i did the p90x thing, and after a while, i was able to kinda free form it, because i understood some fundamentals.... and i had some discipline, which it sounds like you need some discipline!! it sounds like you need to focus if you want that boy (body) above you... that starts right now with what you eat, and you need to behave or i will spank you.!icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 16, 2013 5:40 AM GMT
    Starting Strength by Mark Ripptoe is a great book and great routine for someone who is new to mass building. You're not going to get huge. When an individual puts on muscle, they become a more muscular version of themselves. So if you're already the lean type (which is seems based on your single profile picture), then you will add muscle to your learn frame and become a fitter and even sexier version of your former self.

    I've been lifting since high school, and have made so many mistakes. Only now am I seeing results because of Starting Strength, so I enjoy passing on the information to guys who are beginning so they can avoid mistakes that I made.
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    Jan 16, 2013 6:39 AM GMT
    Yeah I'm already lean, but my shoulders are narrow. I see lots of guys with narrow shoulders who look ridiculous after they get muscle... it looks really gym-body like. I want to make sure I avoid that.

    And yeah, re: discipline, it's about diminishing returns for me lol. I don't mind taking a little longer to get there if I don't have to think at all!
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    Jan 16, 2013 3:02 PM GMT
    Keep in mind that being healthy isn't synonymous with having a pretty physique.
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    Jan 16, 2013 9:03 PM GMT
    lonesomepidgeon said
    I want to get to the above level of physique, which is maybe 20 pounds more weight. I don't want to be huge, but I want to get to that level hopefully before summer!

    Don't worry, nobody accidentally gets "huge".
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    Jan 16, 2013 10:56 PM GMT
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    lonesomepidgeon said
    I want to get to the above level of physique, which is maybe 20 pounds more weight. I don't want to be huge, but I want to get to that level hopefully before summer!

    Don't worry, nobody accidentally gets "huge".


    ^This! I love when my girlfrieds are like "I can't lift, I don't want to be one of those body builder girls..."

    Really? Come on. I wish it were that easy.
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    Jan 16, 2013 10:56 PM GMT
    isrred said
    lonesomepidgeon said
    I want to get to the above level of physique, which is maybe 20 pounds more weight. I don't want to be huge, but I want to get to that level hopefully before summer!

    Don't worry, nobody accidentally gets "huge".


    ^This! I love when my girlfrieds are like "I can't lift, I don't want to be one of those body builder girls..."

    Really? Come on. I wish it were that easy.
  • christastic

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    Feb 18, 2013 2:38 AM GMT
    Update... I just bought a 5lb tub of isonatural protein. When I told my friend, he's like "dude, that's gonna get you the exact opposite kind of muscles you wanted". Apparently if I take that stuff, I'll inflate like a balloon, with no definition; and apparently deflate if I stop using it.

    Is that true?? Because I don't want to "bulk" just for the sake of bulking!
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    Feb 18, 2013 2:57 AM GMT
    lonesomepidgeon saidUpdate... I just bought a 5lb tub of isonatural protein. When I told my friend, he's like "dude, that's gonna get you the exact opposite kind of muscles you wanted". Apparently if I take that stuff, I'll inflate like a balloon, with no definition; and apparently deflate if I stop using it.

    Is that true?? Because I don't want to "bulk" just for the sake of bulking!


    I don't think a 5lb of protein is going to make you look like the hulk, most likely by the end of that 5lbs of protein, you'll LUCKILY add 2-3 pounds of muscle if trained and dieting right.

    ugh protein doesnt get you big, it helps to recover faster to make you big, it's not like you take 1000grams of protein you'll end up looking like a swole guy.
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    Feb 18, 2013 7:54 AM GMT
    lonesomepidgeon saidWhat I'm saying is I want to lean bulk. I know guys who take tons of stuff, and have thick shapeless arms and bird-chested boob pecs lol... trying to avoid that




    Hey Man... If you want some advice send me a message. this was my transformation.... I did it without being one of those guys that writes everything down or feels like a chemist with all my different powders lol.....

    Just followed a simple program

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