What makes a man gay?

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    Jan 15, 2013 3:29 PM GMT

    I'm just trying to make a sample here and see if there is a trend in the answers.
  • jmanorlando

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    Jan 15, 2013 4:35 PM GMT
    ummm, I disagree. I have a great dad and relationship with him.

    I always knew I was gay, I would say I was born this way and nothing made me gay. Not sure what research you are reading and but it sounds a little off.
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    Jan 15, 2013 4:43 PM GMT
    I'm pretty sure being exposed to musicals has something to do with it..icon_rolleyes.gif.
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    Jan 15, 2013 5:08 PM GMT
    Look at Manu Bennett on Spartacus...question answered.icon_smile.gif
  • LJay

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    Jan 15, 2013 5:38 PM GMT
    I tend to think that not having a pet rabbit in the house is what does it. My brother used to shoot rabbits, so that would leave n=him immune and my sister was not gay just because she wasn't and I did not have a pet rabbit, so I was.

    If only all those behavioral researchers knew this.
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    Jan 15, 2013 5:41 PM GMT
    I got my gay when my grandma made me wear a pink shirt in 3rd grade. icon_mad.gif
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 15, 2013 5:44 PM GMT
    You can blame your dad for a lot of things, but he didn't make you gay by not loving you. Your desire to be with and love a man isn't a curse of being unloved, it's the desire to find love.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 15, 2013 5:48 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidYou can blame your dad for a lot of things, but he didn't make you gay by not loving you. Your desire to be with and love a man isn't a curse of being unloved, it's the desire to find love.
    Looking at the gorgeous, sizzling HottJoe would make any straight man become naturally gay.icon_lol.gif
  • Medjai

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    Jan 15, 2013 5:50 PM GMT
    There is no known cause for homosexuality. Though theories range from a gay gene to birth order to absent fathers to simple immorality to everything in between. It's hotly debated with very little backing.
  • EricLA

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    Jan 15, 2013 5:51 PM GMT
    The Strong Mother/Weak or Absent Father theory has been soundly discredited. Do you know how many people are raised that way? If that caused people being gay there'd be far more of us in the world.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 15, 2013 5:52 PM GMT
    Medjai saidThere is no known cause for homosexuality. Though theories range from a gay gene to birth order to absent fathers to simple immorality to everything in between. It's hotly debated with very little backing.
    In other words, homosexuality is one of nature's darkest mysteries.
  • Medjai

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    Jan 15, 2013 5:54 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Medjai saidThere is no known cause for homosexuality. Though theories range from a gay gene to birth order to absent fathers to simple immorality to everything in between. It's hotly debated with very little backing.
    In other words, homosexuality is one of nature's darkest mysteries.


    I don't know if I'd rank it that high. However, that description just makes it seem more right, so I'll let it slide.
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    Jan 15, 2013 5:58 PM GMT
    Some people want to put us in their perfect little box labels of how and why. But I am very satisfied with the mystery. It forces us to love without questioning.
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    Jan 15, 2013 5:59 PM GMT
    Nikola-Bugarin-2.jpg

    This is what makes me gay
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    Jan 15, 2013 6:06 PM GMT
    colonialRule said
    My question for you guys is:
    did you have an abscent father or one who perhaps didn't give you as much love?
    I'm just trying to make a sample here and see if there is a trend in the answers.


    So a social network discussion forum thread will reveal what scientists have already discredited? icon_rolleyes.gif

    colonialRule said
    There aren't significative results that suggest those causes reside in physiologic or genetic aspects


    Yes, there are. I'd suggest you do your research here.

    P.S. Nice trolling.
  • Medjai

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    Jan 15, 2013 6:12 PM GMT
    torrentprime said
    colonialRule said
    My question for you guys is:
    did you have an abscent father or one who perhaps didn't give you as much love?
    I'm just trying to make a sample here and see if there is a trend in the answers.


    So a social network discussion forum thread will reveal what scientists have already discredited? icon_rolleyes.gif

    colonialRule said
    There aren't significative results that suggest those causes reside in physiologic or genetic aspects


    Yes, there are. I'd suggest you do your research here.

    P.S. Nice trolling.


    There is no definitive evidence for any single cause of homosexuality. Anything 'proven' is quickly disproven.
  • stratavos

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    Jan 15, 2013 6:15 PM GMT
    torrentprime said
    colonialRule said
    My question for you guys is:
    did you have an abscent father or one who perhaps didn't give you as much love?
    I'm just trying to make a sample here and see if there is a trend in the answers.


    So a social network discussion forum thread will reveal what scientists have already discredited? icon_rolleyes.gif

    colonialRule said
    There aren't significative results that suggest those causes reside in physiologic or genetic aspects


    Yes, there are. I'd suggest you do your research here.

    P.S. Nice trolling.


    indeed. also... the current definition is simply one who is sexually and/or romantically interested in the same gender. As far as I'm concerned the only 2 likely explanations as to why this happens are:

    1. unconscious decision that can not be reversed, from a young age.

    and/or

    2. supposedly the movement of fluids in the womb have an effect on the developing fetus (well lots of things affect the developing fetus so "no shit" comes to mind)

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    Jan 15, 2013 6:48 PM GMT
    torrentprime said
    So a social network discussion forum thread will reveal what scientists have already discredited? icon_rolleyes.gif

    I am not trying reveal anything and, clearly, my attemp would be far from having any statistical significance.
    I only asked because I feel that in my case, such situation could have been a critical cause for a part of my life which I greatly fail to account for. If you read my profile you'd see what I mean.



    torrentprime said
    P.S. Nice trolling.

    I wasn't trying to troll anyone. What do you say so?
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    Jan 15, 2013 6:48 PM GMT
    I think the trolling may refer to my feeble contribution above
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    Jan 15, 2013 6:49 PM GMT
    Medjai said
    There is no definitive evidence for any single cause of homosexuality. Anything 'proven' is quickly disproven.


    No one said there was a single cause.

    But physiological and genetic influences? Yes. Have we disproven the "mom was controlling and dad was absent" homophobic bullshit? Yes, we have.
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    Jan 15, 2013 6:50 PM GMT
    Trollileo said
    redsoxfan791 saidI'm pretty sure being exposed to musicals has something to do with it..icon_rolleyes.gif.
    So musicals + fashion + estranged fathers + unwanted underage sexual experiences = gay. Right? I think we're on to something here.


    I believe you stumbled across the E = mc^2 of our generation. Nicely done.
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    Jan 15, 2013 6:55 PM GMT
    colonialRule said
    I am not trying reveal anything and, clearly, my attemp would be far from having any statistical significance.
    I only asked because I feel that in my case, such situation could have been a critical cause for a part of my life which I greatly fail to account for. If you read my profile you'd see what I mean.


    Anecdotes are not data.

    I'm not being mean - if you had some personal life challenges, then I am sorry for you, but all evidence (scientific, not narratives) points to orientation being set by birth and being essentially unchangeable. And it's not a "gay vs straight" thing anyway - sexuality is a continuum, not a "gay or straight" switch in one or the other position. Where you fall on that spectrum depends on lots of factors, but nothing backs the idea that it's a choice or a environment thing.
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    Jan 15, 2013 7:04 PM GMT
    i read once that oldest children are the least likely to be gay. like it happens more to second and third siblings... as if its natures way of sorting out genetic pools...

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    Jan 15, 2013 7:08 PM GMT
    jonnyboy saidi read once that oldest children are the least likely to be gay. like it happens more to second and third siblings... as if its natures way of sorting out genetic pools...

    Im the oldest!!!! icon_cool.gif

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    Jan 15, 2013 7:12 PM GMT
    jonnyboy saidi read once that oldest children are the least likely to be gay. like it happens more to second and third siblings... as if its natures way of sorting out genetic pools...


    Yup.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order

    wikiA correlation between fraternal birth order and male sexual orientation has been suggested by research. Ray Blanchard identified the association and referred to it as the fraternal birth order effect. In several studies, the observation is that the more older brothers a man has, the greater the probability is that he will have a homosexual orientation. It has sometimes been called the older brother effect. It has been estimated that 15% of the homosexual demographic is caused by fraternal birth order.


    Dunno what "sorting out genetic pools" means, but there is evidence to support the sibling thing, for sure.