BMI scale is ridiculous!

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    Jan 17, 2013 2:39 AM GMT
    It says I'm barely making average weight lol, I think if I drop any more weight ill be skeletal..

    I wear small shirts and slim fits, I can't imagine what size I would have to purchase if I get any thinner. Probably the youth department

    30 waists are already hard to find..
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    Jan 17, 2013 8:49 AM GMT
    "In 1998, the U.S. National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention brought U.S. definitions into line with World Health Organization guidelines, lowering the normal/overweight cut-off from BMI 27.8 to BMI 25. This had the effect of redefining approximately 29 million Americans, previously healthy to overweight."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index
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    Jan 17, 2013 6:23 PM GMT
    WHAT! omg this changes everything!! icon_razz.gif Feeling fatty for trying to stay at 195...lost weight now i wanna gain muscle but stay at 195...i am app. over 25 but I don't think I look overweight. lol
  • Medjai

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    Jan 17, 2013 6:25 PM GMT
    BMI has its uses, but is not the final word by any stretch.
  • stratavos

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    Jan 17, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
    Medjai saidBMI has its uses, but is not the final word by any stretch.


    indeed... I'd rather be overweight with muscle than fat any day... (which I apparently am (overweight) for being 23, 6 foot, and 165lbs)
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    Jan 17, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
    BMI is worthless for any person with above average muscularity.
  • SkyMiles

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    Jan 17, 2013 6:50 PM GMT
    A panel of 10 guys from RJ should make the REAL determination icon_eek.gif

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    Jan 17, 2013 6:54 PM GMT
    I get annoyed anytime an article leans on a trend in BMI in isolation and uses it to discuss the state of health of the population in question.

    I think we should collectively declare that BMI is rubbish. Body fat percent, although also imperfect, would be a better measure. A combo of both would be better yet.
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    Jan 17, 2013 6:58 PM GMT
    Yeah, the last time I looked, my BMI classified me as overweight. I'd like to ask for a RJ review.
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    Jan 17, 2013 7:01 PM GMT
    imasrxd saidYeah, the last time I looked, my BMI classified me as overweight. I'd like to ask for a RJ review.


    Overweight? I think you mean obese. Haha.

    BMI has its uses, but it certainly has its limits. Muscle throws a huge wrench into its validity. It's come under fire in the military because of it's use in fitness tests.
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    Jan 17, 2013 7:02 PM GMT
    imasrxd saidYeah, the last time I looked, my BMI classified me as overweight. I'd like to ask for a RJ review.


    Lol.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQNKdFY2JM4

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  • Medjai

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    Jan 17, 2013 7:11 PM GMT
    bachian saidBMI is worthless for any person with above average muscularity.


    The main justification for its use is that such people are rare enough to not significantly skew it's use.
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    Jan 18, 2013 12:21 AM GMT
    Fuck BMI. It's just a number to make some people feel bad and others feel good.

    The REAL test is what you look like naked. You don't need a BMI test to see that.
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    Jan 18, 2013 12:32 AM GMT
    According to the BMI, I'm overweight. Which is ridiculous. Because I'm not, dammit!!
  • NJVetteGuy77

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    Jan 18, 2013 12:33 AM GMT
    Buppi said

    I wear small shirts and slim fits, I can't imagine what size I would have to purchase if I get any thinner. Probably the youth department

    30 waists are already hard to find..


    I have a 26w, and American Eagle has clothes that fit pretty well. I have to go up to a 28w in jeans or pants because of the length. Also, try children's sizes for shirts, they're cheaper and fit well too! They also work for me, I take between a 16 and 18. Just watch out, sometimes you have to remove the little ducky in the chest area. icon_razz.gif
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    Jan 29, 2013 12:52 PM GMT
    The BMI scale says I'm obese.

    BMI is a basically worthless metric premised on Victorian norms (or, per the article linked above, premised on worldwide grinding poverty being the norm). Bodfat % is a much better measurement, but since it's harder to measure, officials go the lazy route and employ this 19th century hocus pocus.
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    Jan 29, 2013 12:55 PM GMT
    BMI is a piece of crap. Everytime I get on it says that I'm on the verge of obesity and that is obviously not correct. Anyone who has a decent amount of muslce mass will be either overweight or obese.
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    Jan 30, 2013 3:22 PM GMT
    Medjai said
    bachian saidBMI is worthless for any person with above average muscularity.


    The main justification for its use is that such people are rare enough to not significantly skew it's use.


    Yup. Then it needs to not be applied to us. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 30, 2013 3:25 PM GMT
    According to BMI, I was in state of undernourishment a few years ago, while eating all the time.

    It is rubbish.
  • deep388

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    Feb 13, 2013 11:35 PM GMT
    The strange thing about BMI is that I was deemed overweight and my doctor advised me to lose 15kgs. When I lost 15kgs, everyone started to say I look skeletal and told me to bulk up (which I have over the past few months, being partly of Polynesian descent, looking skinny is not prized).

    Verdict: BMI doesn't take into account that I am naturally big boned and is therefore something I will never again use as an indicator for my "health".
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    Feb 13, 2013 11:38 PM GMT
    My BMI is a 34. Yay! Couldn't be happier.
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    Feb 13, 2013 11:41 PM GMT
    stratavos said
    Medjai saidBMI has its uses, but is not the final word by any stretch.


    indeed... I'd rather be overweight with muscle than fat any day... (which I apparently am (overweight) for being 23, 6 foot, and 165lbs)


    No, that's in the normal weight range--I just checked because I had to laugh at the thought of someone calling me overweight (same stats.)
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    Feb 13, 2013 11:45 PM GMT
    Curious, how would you do, without BMI, to keep track of national level obesity level ?

    Just knowing height and weight is enough to compute BMI. It's far better than just body weight, because it compensate for height difference.

    So BMI statistics are far better than just individual weight statistics.

    Better estimation of body composition need specific exams and measurements that you will never have on a state population level.

    BMI correlate with body fat on population level, but nobody take it for a accuurate way to calculate individual fitness.
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    Feb 13, 2013 11:46 PM GMT
    It also does not scale well with height, and that is a well-documented issue.
  • invisigay10

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    Feb 13, 2013 11:53 PM GMT
    Newsflash: people who use the BMI in a clinical setting Know that you need additional information like body-fat % and medical conditions / drugs a person has / takes. The BMI is but one parameter of many.

    They also know that the BMI is not reliable for certain groups of people. Like ppl with collapsed vertebrae. Btw. the standard BMI scale only applies to Caucasians.