5 People Shot At 3 Different Gun Shows On Gun Appreciation Day

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    Jan 20, 2013 2:15 AM GMT
    Because, you know, guns are so safe in the right hands.

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/19/1473881/two-people-accidentally-shot-at-a-gun-show-safety-checkpoint-on-gun-appreciation-day/If the gun advocates behind this year’s inaugural Gun Appreciation Day had hoped to use the day’s festivities to build support for their anti-regulation platform, they are going to have to wait another year.
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    Jan 20, 2013 4:09 AM GMT
    Too funny! I wonder how FOX News will spin this to have a PRO gun outcome?
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    Jan 20, 2013 5:07 AM GMT
    Side quibble not directly related to this piece of news:

    Freedom to own arms is one thing, but why has this trigger-happy cowboy sentiment pervaded our culture and consciousness? Why is it that our response to anything from threats to discord to simple dislike is to pull out a weapon and point it at someone else? And many a response to being proven wrong about the victim's motivations is to shrug and say, "he/she shouldn't have made me feel uncomfortable," as if that would absolve one of any blame or wrongdoing. Why are we still living in the wild west???
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    Jan 20, 2013 5:31 AM GMT
    ART_DECO saidToo funny! I wonder how FOX News will spin this to have a PRO gun outcome?


    Right, TOO, TOO funny!!! See Andy Borowitz' column in the New Yoker on how FOX News is shutting down for routine maintenance on Monday, at a time "when we are sure that our vewers won't be interested in seeing anything that is on TV that time."

    Also TOO, TOO funny!!!
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    Jan 20, 2013 6:01 AM GMT
    hartfan said Why are we still living in the wild west???


    Speaking of the Wild West:

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/19/1472811/jc-penney-guns/
    Utah Man Carries Rifle Into JC Penney To Defend Against ‘Criminals, Cartels, Drug Lords’ and ‘Evil Men’
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:04 PM GMT
    Great article!

    I think the real problem is the cavalier attitude to guns that seems to have developed in certain quarters. Responsible gun owners that I know are anything but cavalier.
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:11 PM GMT
    NRA is losing this war.
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:17 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidGreat article!

    I think the real problem is the cavalier attitude to guns that seems to have developed in certain quarters. Responsible gun owners that I know are anything but cavalier.


    This
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:20 PM GMT
    credo saidNRA is losing this war.


    OY! That tone deaf news conference after Newtown, and that commercial about Obama's daughters. icon_surprised.gif

    It's like they keep shooting themselves in the foot. icon_eek.gif

    OOF! That was so corny, it hurt. Real pain...icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 20, 2013 2:17 PM GMT
    And with all the guns around, the NRA/pro-gun groups would have you believe that guns prevent irresponsible use of guns.
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    Jan 20, 2013 2:23 PM GMT
    mileshelvetica said
    ART_DECO saidToo funny! I wonder how FOX News will spin this to have a PRO gun outcome?


    Right, TOO, TOO funny!!! See Andy Borowitz' column in the NY Times on how FOX News is shutting down for routine maintenance on Monday, at a time "when we are sure that our vewers won't be interested in seeing anything that is on TV that time."

    Also TOO, TOO funny!!!


    I went looking for this piece, but did not find it in the NYT. However, it is in "The New Yorker" magazine:

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/01/fox-news-to-shut-down-for-routine-maintenance-monday-morning-at-1130.html
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    Jan 20, 2013 2:41 PM GMT
    "that more guns will mean more protection for individuals."
    ...right and how's that working out?

    Yeah let's just have a shoot up to protect ourselves, meanwhile all the people shot between the cross fire just have to suck shit...
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    Jan 20, 2013 3:14 PM GMT
    mileshelvetica said
    ART_DECO saidToo funny! I wonder how FOX News will spin this to have a PRO gun outcome?

    Right, TOO, TOO funny!!! See Andy Borowitz' column in the NY Times on how FOX News is shutting down for routine maintenance on Monday, at a time "when we are sure that our vewers won't be interested in seeing anything that is on TV that time."

    Also TOO, TOO funny!!!

    Yep, it is funny when the paranoid gun nuts, convinced everyone else is coming to shoot them, end up shooting themselves instead. You don't think that's funny? Or maybe you'd prefer the term poetic justice?
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    Jan 20, 2013 3:38 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidBecause, you know, guns are so safe in the right hands.

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/19/1473881/two-people-accidentally-shot-at-a-gun-show-safety-checkpoint-on-gun-appreciation-day/If the gun advocates behind this year’s inaugural Gun Appreciation Day had hoped to use the day’s festivities to build support for their anti-regulation platform, they are going to have to wait another year.


    As one of the commenters said in jest, "Maybe if they'd had more guns there, they'd have been safer....." LOLOL

    Here's 19 more "fails" in recognition of Gun Appreciation Day:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/gun-fails-second-amendment-rights-gone-wrong_n_2490579.html?ncid=wsc-huffpost-cards-headline


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    Jan 20, 2013 4:57 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/19/gun-show-shootings_n_2513057.html

    Accidental shootings and probably lots of it to come with all the first timers attending these events.
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    Jan 20, 2013 5:02 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/19/gun-show-shootings_n_2513057.html

    Accidental shooting and probably lots of it to come with all the first timers attending these events.


    True
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    Jan 20, 2013 5:12 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/19/gun-show-shootings_n_2513057.html

    Accidental shooting and probably lots of it to come with all the first timers attending these events.


    True


    I'm hearing it anecdotally from my gun buddies who have attended these events for a good part of their lives that the big increase is from folks who know nothing about gun ownership. Expect a bunch of accidents.
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    Jan 20, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
    http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2013/01/16/confessions-of-a-gun-shop-owner/
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    Jan 20, 2013 5:29 PM GMT
    This sounds like an Onion article lol
  • MercuryMax

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    Jan 20, 2013 5:32 PM GMT
    I can't believe all of you are so anti guns.

    Gun rights aren't to protect ourselves from the bad men in our own nation. Yes it's useful for that. But there's a bigger picture. One day, our arrogance will be tested by another nation who has strengthen themselves.

    For example:

    Total US population: 311,591, 917
    Total US Military personnel: 2,927,754

    China population: 1,344,130,000
    Chinese military personnel: 4,585,000 (conscripts ready for draft: 195 million)

    That's our worst example. But seriously, this should make you think. We had guns for a reason, and it wasn't just for our wild west mentalities.

    We also have to keep our own government in check as well.
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    Jan 20, 2013 5:37 PM GMT
    The irony is deep down the NRA doesn't care about the 2nd Amendment. They are a lobbying group whose primary concern is making the gun companies as profitable as possible. The NRA is not nor has it ever been about protecting "constitutional freedoms."
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    Jan 20, 2013 5:40 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/19/gun-show-shootings_n_2513057.html

    Accidental shootings and probably lots of it to come with all the first timers attending these events.


    No evidence pro or con. But the dealer in Medina, Ohio certainly wasn't a first timer.

    Chances are, accidents are going to happen the more guns you have. Pure probability.

    851 accidental shooting deaths in 2011.
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    Jan 20, 2013 6:05 PM GMT
    I am very pro gun rights. But I will say that the paranoia that many of my fellow pro gun rights brothers and sisters have makes me more concerned than any invasion or government takeover potential. Handguns are one thing. Guns of mass destruction are on a completely different level. If we're not willing to have that discussion with the antigun people, then we're just as narrow minded in our fear as they are in theirs. Humans are naturally accident prone. If you're going to own and carry a gun around people, it should be a gun that does minimal damage, not one that could mow down 100 people in 60 seconds or less when you get a bee in your bonnet. There is a reason why you don't hear of mass stabbing murders in a mall or movie theater or school.

    To me, this should be a discussion about getting rid of the guns that have the greatest potential to cause massive harm rather than a debate for or against guns. That debate has already been settled.
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    Jan 20, 2013 6:11 PM GMT
    irishkcguy saidThe irony is deep down the NRA doesn't care about the 2nd Amendment. They are a lobbying group whose primary concern is making the gun companies as profitable as possible. The NRA is not nor has it ever been about protecting "constitutional freedoms."

    +1
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    may11 said
    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/19/gun-show-shootings_n_2513057.html

    Accidental shooting and probably lots of it to come with all the first timers attending these events.


    True


    I'm hearing it anecdotally from my gun buddies who have attended these events for a good part of their lives that the big increase is from folks who know nothing about gun ownership. Expect a bunch of accidents.


    Due to gun ban fears, a lot of newbies who haven't a clue about firearms or gun safety have been buying guns. I've been in a number of sporting goods/outdoors stores over the past few weeks and the stocks of EBRs (Evil Black Rifles) has been completely sold out with no more available for months. There's also been a run on semi-auto handguns with magazines with 10+ round capacity -- again because people think they're going to be banned and are stocking up while they can.

    Unintended consequences, I'm sure. People who would have never purchased a gun are now doing so because they fear this is their last chance to get one legally. As a result there will be an increase in the number of gun accidents -- ironically before the ban threats, the accident rates have been going down for years...