A Son Tells His Gay Dad , “You Are Not My Mom”

  • metta

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    Jan 21, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
    A Son Tells His Gay Dad , “You Are Not My Mom”

    http://evolequals.com/2013/01/21/a-son-tells-his-gay-dad-you-are-not-my-mom/
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    Jan 21, 2013 10:18 PM GMT
    Oh god I wanna cry now.
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    Jan 21, 2013 10:39 PM GMT
    Wow that's a roller coaster. Great dad, though.
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    Jan 21, 2013 10:39 PM GMT
    Yeah that "friend" should not be allowed to hang out with his kid anymore.
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    Jan 23, 2013 12:25 AM GMT
    skykey saidThis is one of the reason why I don't like the idea of gays being parents. A man can't give a child a women's touch.


    Did you even read the article faceless one? I'm sure his heroin addicted mother would have gave that kid a great touch in life.
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    Jan 23, 2013 12:33 AM GMT
    Go let him live with his birth mom as a guttersnipe for a month, and see how well her maternal instincts kick in. She'll be selling him for smack by the end of the first week.

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    Jan 23, 2013 12:34 AM GMT
    skykey saidThis is one of the reason why I don't like the idea of gays being parents. A man can't give a child a women's touch.
    Not true....there are kids that live with there dads, and have lived with there dads str8 or gay and have managed.It doesnt matter if you are in a relationship with a man or a woman as long as you are a good pedagogic figure for him that what matters, kids say things they see they dont understand and become curious, as long as you explain to them what is going on they will understand and not need that "woman's touch" ...P.S. i know women who are crappy mothers....and dont have that woman's touch even if femininity and maternity hit them in the face....its all about personality and strength.icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 23, 2013 12:36 AM GMT
    skykey saidThis is one of the reason why I don't like the idea of gays being parents. A man can't give a child a women's touch.


    There are enough moms who either abandoned their child or past away and the father left alone to take care of his child... So it's nothing special for a gay man to raise a child... The child probably said "I want mommy" because at school he'll see more straight parents than gay parents. Put him in a school where there are only gay parents and this wouldn't have been the issue...
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    Jan 23, 2013 12:49 AM GMT
    My doggie is happy with his daddy icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 23, 2013 3:27 PM GMT
    skykey said
    I didn't mean his birth mother, but the boy should have been adopted by a opposite couple.


    Bigot.
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    Jan 23, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    showme said
    skykey said
    I didn't mean his birth mother, but the boy should have been adopted by a opposite couple.


    Bigot.


    Isn't it also bigoted to reject this guy's point of view out of hand? Not saying I agree with him, because I don't, but it's self-contradictory to call this guy close minded for not sharing your belief.
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    Jan 23, 2013 3:37 PM GMT
    spacemagic said
    showme said
    skykey said
    I didn't mean his birth mother, but the boy should have been adopted by a opposite couple.


    Bigot.


    Isn't it also bigoted to reject this guy's point of view out of hand? Not saying I agree with him, because I don't, but it's self-contradictory to call this guy close minded for not sharing your belief.


    Jeebus. No.

    As I've said a bazillion times, just because you holds tolerance as a core belief does NOT mean that you have to tolerate intolerance.

    The very idea that a (supposedly) gay man would say that a child should not have been adopted by another gay man but have "opposite" parents is beyond ridiculous. That is not a bigoted statement.
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    Jan 23, 2013 3:37 PM GMT
    RadRTT saidYeah that "friend" should not be allowed to hang out with his kid anymore.

    +100
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    Jan 23, 2013 3:38 PM GMT
    skykey saidI didn't mean his birth mother, but the boy should have been adopted by a opposite couple.


    And McDonald's should offer a burger made with unicorn meat. Seriously, did you read the article? The child was born at 4 pounds and affected by heroin in the womb. Chances of a straight couple adopting him? Very, very low.

    The problem with seeking the ideal situation is that it treats everything that is not ideal as wrong. I'd rather see a child have two loving parents than no parents at all. End of story.
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    Jan 23, 2013 3:40 PM GMT
    Any woman can be a mother, but not every mother can be a mom.

    Any man can be a father, but not every father can be a dad.
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    Jan 23, 2013 3:40 PM GMT
    As an adopted kid, the one thing I would say is that it does not sound like this adoptive parent has been open and honest with his child about the circumstances of his birth. He even says he's in contact with the birth mother. I think that's wrong. He may want to limit contact when it's necessary for the good of the child, but in general, adopted kids need to know where they came from. It's no favor to hide it.
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    Jan 23, 2013 3:52 PM GMT
    skykey saidThis is one of the reason why I don't like the idea of gays being parents. A man can't give a child a women's touch.


    *tries VERY hard to not laugh at this, fails*

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    Jan 23, 2013 8:57 PM GMT
    I dont mean to be rude or anything ...but it is this attitude from some guys that makes it hard for gay couples to be accepted and prove that people are wrong.I think i would be a great father and if i would have a partner i would be open with my child and make him understand the things that are in his life from the beginning....kids act and do what parents and other people influence them to do....lots of hate from mature people these days and lots of confusion starts from a early age...if you guys want society to take gay relationships to a other level and treat it the same as a normal male-female relationship you have to prove your capable of doing the same things as a normal couple or even better....I know this subject is not on topic much but it is related, i would love to have a husband and a child and i dont see this in anyway wrong, its not wrong to love your partner and together to take care of a child, a kid needs affection and guidance....and anybody with a mind and a soul can do it if they want to ...
    Clearly that woman didnt take care at all of her baby and its better that guy took him, and things like these happen, children say things because they see stuff they dont understand, as long as you give him a good and simple explanation and show him love and affection and a proper education then he will never think anything of you and your partner but the people who loved him and grew him up....a parent is the person who takes care of you not who biologically makes you...its just my opinion and i strongly believe in it icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 28, 2013 11:42 AM GMT
    skykeyThis is one of the reason why I don't like the idea of gays being parents. A man can't give a child a women's touch.


    Skykey, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, that you have beliefs and do not consider them to be bigotry - but even if I do, you statement is too short and fails to address a key point.

    1. Has already been raised. The mother is a heroin addict (who took heroin when the baby was in the womb). But you respond to that by saying that 'opposite parents' should have been found. But

    2. Can you show that there were any 'opposite parents' available? Childless heterosexual couples have other options: they can get IVF or enhanced fertility/sperm count treatments, for instance.

    The guy in this article adopted a child that he knew to be developmentally challenged through heroin and is bringing him up in a secure home. If you are really saying that all children who cannot be adopted by straight couples should be left in state care because that's better than having any parents at all, then I think you have a lot to prove.

    In any case, how do you propose to show that all heterosexual couples would give better care than this man?
  • Karl

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    Jan 28, 2013 11:51 AM GMT
    He's just a 10 years old kid.
    Sometimes a kid can say something stupid to his parents , even "I hope you get cancer " to his birth parent.
    He's been raising him well and I believe his son would realise and love him more and more .
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    Jan 28, 2013 11:53 AM GMT
    I was like, "Where are all these comments y'all are responding to??? Ohhhhhhhh..." icon_lol.gif My "I.H.P." Spidey Sense is reaping benefits!
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    Jan 28, 2013 12:56 PM GMT
    MedGen said
    skykey saidThis is one of the reason why I don't like the idea of gays being parents. A man can't give a child a women's touch.
    Not true....there are kids that live with there dads, and have lived with there dads str8 or gay and have managed.It doesnt matter if you are in a relationship with a man or a woman as long as you are a good pedagogic figure for him that what matters, kids say things they see they dont understand and become curious, as long as you explain to them what is going on they will understand and not need that "woman's touch" ...P.S. i know women who are crappy mothers....and dont have that woman's touch even if femininity and maternity hit them in the face....its all about personality and strength.icon_wink.gif


    Well said...
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    Jan 30, 2013 5:54 AM GMT
    skykey saidThis is one of the reason why I don't like the idea of gays being parents. A man can't give a child a women's touch.

    l o l
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    Jan 30, 2013 3:53 PM GMT
    nevz said
    skykey saidThis is one of the reason why I don't like the idea of gays being parents. A man can't give a child a women's touch.

    l o l

    Dumb people should not be parents, gay,straight or confused. Until they have a test to breed, we will be overrun by idiot parents,just look around any mall.