Georgia man sues after state refuses to approve 'GAYGUY' license plate

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    Jan 23, 2013 1:19 PM GMT
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/22/16648068-georgia-man-sues-after-state-refuses-to-approve-gayguy-license-plate?lite

    I ran into this myself in North Dakota. They have a motor vehicle web site where you can check availability of custom vanity plates. And the computer will display how your proposed plate will look, with a very realistic, almost photographic quality. But you'll get an error message if the plate has already been issued, or is not permitted because of profanity or other banned words.

    So I tried various combinations with GAY in them for my motorcycle, and they all were available. But I really wondered, so before paying for an application I phoned the office directly. The person who answered had the proverbial little old lady voice.

    "Oh, no, we won't permit that," she replied sweetly.

    "Well, your computer is allowing it."

    "Yes, but we review the applications when they come in, and we'd catch that."

    "What's the problem with it?"

    "People seeing the plate would object, because it has gay on it. We'd get nothing but complaints about it."

    "Maybe you should update your software program."

    "We buy it from an out-of-state company, I'm not sure how we can change what's in it. But we can look into that."

    "Thank you."

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    Jan 23, 2013 4:45 PM GMT
    ugh, ignorant. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 23, 2013 9:38 PM GMT
    I wonder if they'd allow "NOHOMO" on a license plate.
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    Jan 24, 2013 12:18 AM GMT
    no vanity plates for anyone. problem solved. but i guess at least this way lawyers and bureaucrats retain job security.
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    Jan 24, 2013 12:20 AM GMT
    I thought he wanted GAYPWR
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    Jan 24, 2013 12:30 AM GMT
    ALL vanity license plates should be banned in my opinion. But then again, they are good at letting you know in advance if someone's a douche. icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 24, 2013 12:55 AM GMT
    hahah i love the last one ILVTOFU
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    Jan 24, 2013 1:06 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidI wonder if they'd allow "NOHOMO" on a license plate.


    If it were our state, probably.....until 2014!
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    Jan 24, 2013 6:01 AM GMT
    "In 2009, a Colorado woman who said she was a vegan was denied the vanity plate, "ILVTOFU," The Associated Press reported. But in that case, officials claimed the letters could be misinterpreted."

    This is the best part of the article. icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 24, 2013 6:08 AM GMT
    mtguy333 said"In 2009, a Colorado woman who said she was a vegan was denied the vanity plate, "ILVTOFU," The Associated Press reported. But in that case, officials claimed the letters could be misinterpreted."

    This is the best part of the article. icon_lol.gif


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    Jan 27, 2013 1:23 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidhttp://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/22/16648068-georgia-man-sues-after-state-refuses-to-approve-gayguy-license-plate?lite

    I ran into this myself in North Dakota. They have a motor vehicle web site where you can check availability of custom vanity plates. And the computer will display how your proposed plate will look, with a very realistic, almost photographic quality. But you'll get an error message if the plate has already been issued, or is not permitted because of profanity or other banned words.

    So I tried various combinations with GAY in them for my motorcycle, and they all were available. But I really wondered, so before paying for an application I phoned the office directly. The person who answered had the proverbial little old lady voice.

    "Oh, no, we won't permit that," she replied sweetly.

    "Well, your computer is allowing it."

    "Yes, but we review the applications when they come in, and we'd catch that."

    "What's the problem with it?"

    "People seeing the plate would object, because it has gay on it. We'd get nothing but complaints about it."

    "Maybe you should update your software program."

    "We buy it from an out-of-state company, I'm not sure how we can change what's in it. But we can look into that."

    "Thank you."

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    Funny. Two of three old Pontiacs of mine are Tri-Power cars and anything and everything close to Tri-Power or TRI-PWR for the plates was already taken, both California and Ohio.

    I did take a look at this dual-quad 421 Super Duty ensign blue Cat., but I still think it's a recreation (fake) and the seller wants over $100,000

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1962-Pontiac-Catalina-Super-Duty-Aluminum-Front-End-421-Dual-Quads-Very-Rare-/321059078196?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4ac09cc034

    One of the plates I thought of trying for would be BI PWR. Wonder if that would make it through the DMVs? I could explain it away as easily as "ILVTOFU". After all, it's a dual-quad car.
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    Jan 27, 2013 2:10 PM GMT
    I did manage to get a vanity plate for my camper trailer, shown below. They assumed it merely was a cute nickname for my camper, not realizing its gay second meaning. They never saw when I'd detach it at the campsite, and hang it from a torch light, with my high heels dangling below it:

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    My motorcycle plates were either my initials, or the bike's model designation. But sometimes I had to be creative.

    I owned a Kawasaki ZR-7, but the state didn't use the dash (-) character. So I got ZR 7 issued with a space between the R and 7, and then stuck a trimmed piece of black electrical tape on the plate to make the dash. Technically illegal, but if a cop had ever pulled me over for it I would have peeled it right off, likely avoiding a ticket by pleading ignorance and making the on-the-spot correction. Better than using paint, and looked original.
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    Jan 27, 2013 2:37 PM GMT
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    paulflexes saidI wonder if they'd allow "NOHOMO" on a license plate.

    If it were our state, probably.....until 2014!

    Florida issues right-to-life themed plates, the profits going to anti-abortion groups. But when abortion rights groups petitioned for their own plates the State turned them down, and State judges ruled against the groups on appeal, because political statements aren't allowed. But anti-abortion isn't considered a political statement in Florida, but a matter of "conscience". At least to hypocritical Republican pea brains. I'd like to think that will end in 2014, but don't hold your breath. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Actually I think Florida has too many special interest plates, so that it's difficult to even recognize some as being from here. We have them for most of the universities & colleges, sports teams, manatees, dolphins, bass, panthers, golfers, bicyclists, fishermen, trees, all the US military services, recipients of certain military medals, firemen, police groups, certain waterways, breast cancer, etc, etc.

    http://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/specialtytags/

    And BTW, Florida may be getting a new basic tag, as well:

    http://www.flhsmv.gov/news/pdfs/PR121812.pdf
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    Jan 27, 2013 3:06 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidI did manage to get a vanity plate for my camper trailer, shown below. They assumed it merely was a cute nickname for my camper, not realizing its gay second meaning. They never saw when I'd detach it at the campsite, and hang it from a torch light, with my high heels dangling below it:

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    My motorcycle plates were either my initials, or the bike's model designation. But sometimes I had to be creative.

    I owned a Kawasaki ZR-7, but the state didn't use the dash (-) character. So I got ZR 7 issued with a space between the R and 7, and then stuck a trimmed piece of black electrical tape on the plate to make the dash. Technically illegal, but if a cop had ever pulled me over for it I would have peeled it right off, likely avoiding a ticket by pleading ignorance and making the on-the-spot correction. Better than using paint, and looked original.


    Exactly !!!!
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    Jan 27, 2013 3:24 PM GMT
    I even found a better plate in Ohio versus what I had in California.

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    If the extra money goes to a 'good' cause, and there are many, then I have no complaints about paying a little extra for the specialized plates.

    I had a much tougher time finding something good for the 61 Tri Power Ventura so this is as good as I could come up with. It ran NHRA B stock in 61 and 62 so it was still pretty accurate. Anything and everything remotely related to 'Tri Power' was taken and that's what got me thinking about a dual-quad SD car and using BI-PWR, which was available.

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    Jan 27, 2013 3:27 PM GMT
    Why would this guy want to blatantly profess 'GAY' on his license plate, anyway? Don't get me wrong, I'm gay and proud of it, but this is very much a case of somebody shoving something that can be seen as controversial in people's faces.

    Be proud of who you are, but don't go out there actively starting fires.
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    Jan 27, 2013 3:41 PM GMT
    therestlessyogi saidWhy would this guy want to blatantly profess 'GAY' on his license plate, anyway? Don't get me wrong, I'm gay and proud of it, but this is very much a case of somebody shoving something that can be seen as controversial in people's faces.

    Be proud of who you are, but don't go out there actively starting fires.


    That's completely irrelevant.
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    Jan 27, 2013 3:42 PM GMT
    When I lived in California, I had the licence plate WHIPMAN for my motorcycle - which I mostly used to ride on runs with gay motorcycle clubs, or going to bars and club events. When I moved out of the state, I kept the plate as decoration in my basement.
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    Jan 27, 2013 4:15 PM GMT
    I just checked for California and BIPOWER is available. It would be a cool double entendre and accurate too if I could afford one of these

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    Jan 27, 2013 6:17 PM GMT
    therestlessyogi saidWhy would this guy want to blatantly profess 'GAY' on his license plate, anyway? Don't get me wrong, I'm gay and proud of it, but this is very much a case of somebody shoving something that can be seen as controversial in people's faces.

    Be proud of who you are, but don't go out there actively starting fires.


    You don't sound very proud at all. Please everybody, let's censor the world to avoid any sort of confrontation..icon_rolleyes.gif

    Having a rainbow flag bumper sticker or licence plate is no more controversial than somebody having a "GODISGR8" licence plate. And having one is not asking for somebody else to get into an argument about the topic. People who do are the high and mighty idiots who think their opinions are above all else.
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    Jan 27, 2013 6:22 PM GMT
    hairymusclejock saidhahah i love the last one ILVTOFU


    It took me pretty fucking long to understand that it was TOFU and not To Fuck You. My Brain's fucked.
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    Jan 27, 2013 6:28 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidhttp://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/22/16648068-georgia-man-sues-after-state-refuses-to-approve-gayguy-license-plate?lite

    I ran into this myself in North Dakota. They have a motor vehicle web site where you can check availability of custom vanity plates. And the computer will display how your proposed plate will look, with a very realistic, almost photographic quality. But you'll get an error message if the plate has already been issued, or is not permitted because of profanity or other banned words.

    So I tried various combinations with GAY in them for my motorcycle, and they all were available. But I really wondered, so before paying for an application I phoned the office directly. The person who answered had the proverbial little old lady voice.

    "Oh, no, we won't permit that," she replied sweetly.

    "Well, your computer is allowing it."

    "Yes, but we review the applications when they come in, and we'd catch that."

    "What's the problem with it?"

    "People seeing the plate would object, because it has gay on it. We'd get nothing but complaints about it."

    "Maybe you should update your software program."

    "We buy it from an out-of-state company, I'm not sure how we can change what's in it. But we can look into that."

    "Thank you."

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    What do you expect, North Dakota is a conservative, rural state so ignorance is the accepted norm unfortunately.
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    roadbikeRob saidWhat do you expect, North Dakota is a conservative, rural state so ignorance is the accepted norm unfortunately.

    Depends on how you define ignorance. Backward in some social ways, perhaps, but not educationally. I judged high school science fairs there, and I was astonished at how smart these rural kids are. I also taught college there, and high school juniors and seniors. My public HS school seniors had a 90% college placement rate, phenomenally high against US standards. And the State is indeed rural, one of the lowest population densities in the country, only as many people as live in Brooklyn, NY spread over a huge state.

    But yes, very conservative on social issues. Strangely they're non-confrontational, many people accepted me as a gay man when I lived there, no animosity I could detect, very friendly to me. But come election day, when they're told to choose between "traditional values" versus mine, and they'll go traditional every time. And yet, having lived there 11 years, I do still like the people, despite the rabid pro-gay image I have here. I think they have more potential to evolve into being gay accepting than any of our southern States do.
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    roadbikeRob saidWhat do you expect, North Dakota is a conservative, rural state so ignorance is the accepted norm unfortunately.

    Depends on how you define ignorance. Backward in some social ways, perhaps, but not educationally. I judged high school science fairs there, and I was astonished at how smart these rural kids are. I also taught college there, and high school juniors and seniors. My public HS school seniors had a 90% college placement rate, phenomenally high against US standards. And the State is indeed rural, one of the lowest population densities in the country, only as many people as live in Brooklyn, NY spread over a huge state.

    But yes, very conservative on social issues. Strangely they're non-confrontational, many people accepted me as a gay man when I lived there, no animosity I could detect, very friendly to me. But come election day, when they're told to choose between "traditional values" versus mine, and they'll go traditional every time. And yet, having lived there 11 years, I do still like the people, despite the rabid pro-gay image I have here. I think they have more potential to evolve into being gay accepting than any of our southern States do.


    I haven't spent huge time in ND, but enough, and I agree. No homo hate that I could ever detect.
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    Jan 28, 2013 5:21 PM GMT
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    roadbikeRob saidWhat do you expect, North Dakota is a conservative, rural state so ignorance is the accepted norm unfortunately.

    Depends on how you define ignorance. Backward in some social ways, perhaps, but not educationally. I judged high school science fairs there, and I was astonished at how smart these rural kids are. I also taught college there, and high school juniors and seniors. My public HS school seniors had a 90% college placement rate, phenomenally high against US standards. And the State is indeed rural, one of the lowest population densities in the country, only as many people as live in Brooklyn, NY spread over a huge state.

    But yes, very conservative on social issues. Strangely they're non-confrontational, many people accepted me as a gay man when I lived there, no animosity I could detect, very friendly to me. But come election day, when they're told to choose between "traditional values" versus mine, and they'll go traditional every time. And yet, having lived there 11 years, I do still like the people, despite the rabid pro-gay image I have here. I think they have more potential to evolve into being gay accepting than any of our southern States do.

    I haven't spent huge time in ND, but enough, and I agree. No homo hate that I could ever detect.

    As one of my former ND BFs often said to me, we North Dakotans hate confrontation, a Norwegian trait. We won't say to your face what we'll think behind your back.

    And so I never really knew what they honestly thought about me. But if someone smiles at me, and shakes my hand, and welcomes me into their home, as many did to me there, I'll accept that at face value.

    And maybe if I return their smiles, and reach out to them, they might come to truly like gays, once they get to know me. I dunno what other approach that might work, what I should do.

    I'm guessing that punching them in the face will produce less favorable results. But neither do I lay down and become a doormat. I think you adjust your response to the circumstances you find, keeping in mind your ultimate goal is gay acceptance, and the principle of whatever works.