NRA Has 54% Favorable Image in U.S., Higher than President Obama

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    Jan 24, 2013 9:41 PM GMT
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/159578/nra-favorable-image.aspx
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    Jan 24, 2013 9:44 PM GMT


    lol, how desperate does a topic starter have to get?

    Pretty desperate from the look of it. icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 24, 2013 9:51 PM GMT
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/01/22/gun-control-obama-nra/1851643/

    The NRA has a higher approval rating than the president because it's in sync with Americans' beliefs. [...]

    And by out of the mainstream, I mean really out of the mainstream. According to a post-Sandy Hook Gallup poll, the NRA,with a 54% favorable rating, is actually more popular than President Obama. By contrast, Obama's most recent approval rating from Gallup was 48%. This is particularly striking given that the NRA has faced unrelentingly hostile treatment from most press and pundits, while President Obama has received treatment that is, to put it mildly, far more generous.

    Even left-Democrat Sen. Al Franken of Minnesota says he's unsure about whether he'd support an assault weapon ban. This is, I presume, because he fears that even a blue state like Minnesota doesn't want more restrictive gun laws, and that a different position will hurt him in the coming election.

    In other words, it seems likely that this Washington Post claim is right: That the NRA is actually winning.

    How can that be? Simple enough. The NRA more closely reflects the views of most Americans on gun issues than do Democratic pundits — or Barack Obama.

    Somebody's out of the mainstream, all right. It's just not the gun-rights supporters.
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    Jan 24, 2013 10:37 PM GMT
    Another interesting comparison - it's kind of funny how some are getting so desperate on this issue which really is more about distracting the American public over the greater issues of the economy given how damning the evidence against gun control is.

    http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/17/16567367-nbcwsj-poll-nra-more-popular-than-entertainment-industry?lite
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    Jan 24, 2013 10:48 PM GMT
    So let the oh-so-popular NRA put action behind its words--its president just said recently they are not against universal background checks...which happens to have the most support in the recent Gallup poll. A majority of its members support background checks.

    Instead you have this:

    http://boldprogressives.org/nra-claims-it-supports-tougher-background-checks-then-kills-virginia-background-check-bills/#.UQG5wfKriDsBut shockingly, at the very same time the NRA was claiming to support tougher background checks, it helped oppose and kill several Virginia bills introduced to enact such a policy. Here’s an excerpt from an email the NRA sent to its members in Virginia over the weekend, bragging about killing the background check bills last week:

    Senate Bill 1136, Senate Bill 1232 and Senate Bill 1281 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers, including between family members. The NRA opposes SB 1136, SB 1232 and SB 1281, and all three Senate bills were defeated.
    Senate Bill 911 and Senate Bill 1001 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers at a gun show. Under current law, only licensed dealers must obtain such a check. SB 911 was rolled into SB 1001. Consideration on SB 1001, opposed by the NRA, was passed over for the day and may be heard on Monday, January 21 at 8:00 a.m


    And a similar legislative push in Michigan.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/13/michigan-gun-bill-nra-background-checks_n_2295413.html
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    Jan 24, 2013 10:53 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidSo let the oh-so-popular NRA put action behind its words--its president just said recently they are not against universal background checks...which happens to have the most support in the recent Gallup poll. A majority of its members support background checks.

    Instead you have this:

    http://boldprogressives.org/nra-claims-it-supports-tougher-background-checks-then-kills-virginia-background-check-bills/#.UQG5wfKriDsBut shockingly, at the very same time the NRA was claiming to support tougher background checks, it helped oppose and kill several Virginia bills introduced to enact such a policy. Here’s an excerpt from an email the NRA sent to its members in Virginia over the weekend, bragging about killing the background check bills last week:

    Senate Bill 1136, Senate Bill 1232 and Senate Bill 1281 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers, including between family members. The NRA opposes SB 1136, SB 1232 and SB 1281, and all three Senate bills were defeated.
    Senate Bill 911 and Senate Bill 1001 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers at a gun show. Under current law, only licensed dealers must obtain such a check. SB 911 was rolled into SB 1001. Consideration on SB 1001, opposed by the NRA, was passed over for the day and may be heard on Monday, January 21 at 8:00 a.m


    And a similar legislative push in Michigan.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/13/michigan-gun-bill-nra-background-checks_n_2295413.html


    I think there's a legitimate fear of gun owners and the NRA that anytime they offer to give an inch, opponents attempt to take a mile as has often happened and as you can see for instance from the proposals from Feinstein. If you are as concerned about the extremism in some proposals from the NRA you should be equally appalled by those coming from those like Feinstein and even Obama given the overreach is not conducive to appealing to the trust of gun owners.
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    Jan 25, 2013 12:03 AM GMT
    Interesting. Perhaps Obama is not the Messiah he was annointed to be. At least in the opinion of those polled. But it won't change the minds of those who hold the opposite view.
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    Jan 25, 2013 2:02 AM GMT
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    q1w2e3 saidSo let the oh-so-popular NRA put action behind its words--its president just said recently they are not against universal background checks...which happens to have the most support in the recent Gallup poll. A majority of its members support background checks.

    Instead you have this:

    http://boldprogressives.org/nra-claims-it-supports-tougher-background-checks-then-kills-virginia-background-check-bills/#.UQG5wfKriDsBut shockingly, at the very same time the NRA was claiming to support tougher background checks, it helped oppose and kill several Virginia bills introduced to enact such a policy. Here’s an excerpt from an email the NRA sent to its members in Virginia over the weekend, bragging about killing the background check bills last week:

    Senate Bill 1136, Senate Bill 1232 and Senate Bill 1281 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers, including between family members. The NRA opposes SB 1136, SB 1232 and SB 1281, and all three Senate bills were defeated.
    Senate Bill 911 and Senate Bill 1001 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers at a gun show. Under current law, only licensed dealers must obtain such a check. SB 911 was rolled into SB 1001. Consideration on SB 1001, opposed by the NRA, was passed over for the day and may be heard on Monday, January 21 at 8:00 a.m


    And a similar legislative push in Michigan.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/13/michigan-gun-bill-nra-background-checks_n_2295413.html


    I think there's a legitimate fear of gun owners and the NRA that anytime they offer to give an inch, opponents attempt to take a mile as has often happened and as you can see for instance from the proposals from Feinstein. If you are as concerned about the extremism in some proposals from the NRA you should be equally appalled by those coming from those like Feinstein and even Obama given the overreach is not conducive to appealing to the trust of gun owners.


    Yeah, we've given way too much to the NRA, it all started with an inch.
    And they're not even agreeing to do what they have just said they support--background checks. Anybody with Google can verify that their legislative agenda until till Newtown was to oppose background checks, for the last 20 years or so.
    That, I call hypocrisy and rewriting history.
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    Jan 25, 2013 12:57 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    q1w2e3 saidSo let the oh-so-popular NRA put action behind its words--its president just said recently they are not against universal background checks...which happens to have the most support in the recent Gallup poll. A majority of its members support background checks.

    Instead you have this:

    http://boldprogressives.org/nra-claims-it-supports-tougher-background-checks-then-kills-virginia-background-check-bills/#.UQG5wfKriDsBut shockingly, at the very same time the NRA was claiming to support tougher background checks, it helped oppose and kill several Virginia bills introduced to enact such a policy. Here’s an excerpt from an email the NRA sent to its members in Virginia over the weekend, bragging about killing the background check bills last week:

    Senate Bill 1136, Senate Bill 1232 and Senate Bill 1281 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers, including between family members. The NRA opposes SB 1136, SB 1232 and SB 1281, and all three Senate bills were defeated.
    Senate Bill 911 and Senate Bill 1001 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers at a gun show. Under current law, only licensed dealers must obtain such a check. SB 911 was rolled into SB 1001. Consideration on SB 1001, opposed by the NRA, was passed over for the day and may be heard on Monday, January 21 at 8:00 a.m


    And a similar legislative push in Michigan.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/13/michigan-gun-bill-nra-background-checks_n_2295413.html


    I think there's a legitimate fear of gun owners and the NRA that anytime they offer to give an inch, opponents attempt to take a mile as has often happened and as you can see for instance from the proposals from Feinstein. If you are as concerned about the extremism in some proposals from the NRA you should be equally appalled by those coming from those like Feinstein and even Obama given the overreach is not conducive to appealing to the trust of gun owners.


    Yeah, we've given way too much to the NRA, it all started with an inch.
    And they're not even agreeing to do what they have just said they support--background checks. Anybody with Google can verify that their legislative agenda until till Newtown was to oppose background checks, for the last 20 years or so.
    That, I call hypocrisy and rewriting history.


    And when did the push for gun controls start? You're the one who would be more accurately described as attempting to rewrite history.
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    Jan 25, 2013 1:05 PM GMT
    So? What's your point?
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    Jan 25, 2013 1:22 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    q1w2e3 said
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    q1w2e3 saidSo let the oh-so-popular NRA put action behind its words--its president just said recently they are not against universal background checks...which happens to have the most support in the recent Gallup poll. A majority of its members support background checks.

    Instead you have this:

    http://boldprogressives.org/nra-claims-it-supports-tougher-background-checks-then-kills-virginia-background-check-bills/#.UQG5wfKriDsBut shockingly, at the very same time the NRA was claiming to support tougher background checks, it helped oppose and kill several Virginia bills introduced to enact such a policy. Here’s an excerpt from an email the NRA sent to its members in Virginia over the weekend, bragging about killing the background check bills last week:

    Senate Bill 1136, Senate Bill 1232 and Senate Bill 1281 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers, including between family members. The NRA opposes SB 1136, SB 1232 and SB 1281, and all three Senate bills were defeated.
    Senate Bill 911 and Senate Bill 1001 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers at a gun show. Under current law, only licensed dealers must obtain such a check. SB 911 was rolled into SB 1001. Consideration on SB 1001, opposed by the NRA, was passed over for the day and may be heard on Monday, January 21 at 8:00 a.m


    And a similar legislative push in Michigan.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/13/michigan-gun-bill-nra-background-checks_n_2295413.html


    I think there's a legitimate fear of gun owners and the NRA that anytime they offer to give an inch, opponents attempt to take a mile as has often happened and as you can see for instance from the proposals from Feinstein. If you are as concerned about the extremism in some proposals from the NRA you should be equally appalled by those coming from those like Feinstein and even Obama given the overreach is not conducive to appealing to the trust of gun owners.


    Yeah, we've given way too much to the NRA, it all started with an inch.
    And they're not even agreeing to do what they have just said they support--background checks. Anybody with Google can verify that their legislative agenda until till Newtown was to oppose background checks, for the last 20 years or so.
    That, I call hypocrisy and rewriting history.


    And when did the push for gun controls start? You're the one who would be more accurately described as attempting to rewrite history.


    It started waaaay back from columbine, at least. Can you at least acknowledge that the NRA has been against the wishes of its own members who are generally for background checks, despite its recent statement?
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    Jan 25, 2013 1:42 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    q1w2e3 said
    riddler78 said
    q1w2e3 saidSo let the oh-so-popular NRA put action behind its words--its president just said recently they are not against universal background checks...which happens to have the most support in the recent Gallup poll. A majority of its members support background checks.

    Instead you have this:

    http://boldprogressives.org/nra-claims-it-supports-tougher-background-checks-then-kills-virginia-background-check-bills/#.UQG5wfKriDsBut shockingly, at the very same time the NRA was claiming to support tougher background checks, it helped oppose and kill several Virginia bills introduced to enact such a policy. Here’s an excerpt from an email the NRA sent to its members in Virginia over the weekend, bragging about killing the background check bills last week:

    Senate Bill 1136, Senate Bill 1232 and Senate Bill 1281 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers, including between family members. The NRA opposes SB 1136, SB 1232 and SB 1281, and all three Senate bills were defeated.
    Senate Bill 911 and Senate Bill 1001 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers at a gun show. Under current law, only licensed dealers must obtain such a check. SB 911 was rolled into SB 1001. Consideration on SB 1001, opposed by the NRA, was passed over for the day and may be heard on Monday, January 21 at 8:00 a.m


    And a similar legislative push in Michigan.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/13/michigan-gun-bill-nra-background-checks_n_2295413.html


    I think there's a legitimate fear of gun owners and the NRA that anytime they offer to give an inch, opponents attempt to take a mile as has often happened and as you can see for instance from the proposals from Feinstein. If you are as concerned about the extremism in some proposals from the NRA you should be equally appalled by those coming from those like Feinstein and even Obama given the overreach is not conducive to appealing to the trust of gun owners.


    Yeah, we've given way too much to the NRA, it all started with an inch.
    And they're not even agreeing to do what they have just said they support--background checks. Anybody with Google can verify that their legislative agenda until till Newtown was to oppose background checks, for the last 20 years or so.
    That, I call hypocrisy and rewriting history.


    And when did the push for gun controls start? You're the one who would be more accurately described as attempting to rewrite history.


    It started waaaay back from columbine, at least. Can you at least acknowledge that the NRA has been against the wishes of its own members who are generally for background checks, despite its recent statement?


    You really think it's just from columbine? That's a really short view of history you have there. Would you acknowledge that there are many measures adopted by many organizations including this current Administration that are unpopular independently despite the fact these individuals and organizations claim to represent all their members/constituents?
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    Jan 25, 2013 2:17 PM GMT
    I said, "at least." Massacres nowadays are routinely referred to as "Columbine-like."

    Before you ask multiple broader questions on representation of the NRA of its members, all I ask of you is, please reconcile the facts that
    12/14/2012 Newtown shooting
    1/17/2013 Keene's statement on CBS on "generally supportive of tighter background checks"
    Weekend of 1/17/2013: emails from the NRA re: Virginia bills on tighter background checks


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    Jan 25, 2013 5:02 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidSo let the oh-so-popular NRA put action behind its words--its president just said recently they are not against universal background checks...which happens to have the most support in the recent Gallup poll. A majority of its members support background checks.

    Instead you have this:

    http://boldprogressives.org/nra-claims-it-supports-tougher-background-checks-then-kills-virginia-background-check-bills/#.UQG5wfKriDsBut shockingly, at the very same time the NRA was claiming to support tougher background checks, it helped oppose and kill several Virginia bills introduced to enact such a policy. Here’s an excerpt from an email the NRA sent to its members in Virginia over the weekend, bragging about killing the background check bills last week:

    Senate Bill 1136, Senate Bill 1232 and Senate Bill 1281 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers, including between family members. The NRA opposes SB 1136, SB 1232 and SB 1281, and all three Senate bills were defeated.
    Senate Bill 911 and Senate Bill 1001 would require a background check on all private firearm transfers at a gun show. Under current law, only licensed dealers must obtain such a check. SB 911 was rolled into SB 1001. Consideration on SB 1001, opposed by the NRA, was passed over for the day and may be heard on Monday, January 21 at 8:00 a.m


    And a similar legislative push in Michigan.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/13/michigan-gun-bill-nra-background-checks_n_2295413.html


    http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/01/23/nra-blasts-universal-background-checks/

    MSNBC reports otherwise. Apparently Senator Joe Manchin favors universal checks and claimed that the NRA supported them. Possibly some backroom deal fell through...
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    Jan 25, 2013 6:22 PM GMT
    And LaPierre said in 1999:
    "We think it reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. No loopholes anywhere for anyone. "