Shaming fat people into losing weight is the only way to solve obesity epidemic, leading health academic claims

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    Jan 26, 2013 12:24 AM GMT
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267715/Shaming-fat-people-losing-weight-way-solve-obesity-epidemic-leading-health-academic-claims.html
  • rugbyjockca

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    Jan 26, 2013 12:39 AM GMT
    If that's the only way to eliminate the epidemic, then let's keep the epidemic and start focusing on eliminating the assholes.
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    Jan 26, 2013 12:53 AM GMT
    I tried this with my bf. does not work, you just end up contributing to the problem and creating emotional hurt. Don't do it
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    Jan 26, 2013 1:01 AM GMT
    As a formerly obese person, I can say that shame is a double-edge sword. It was (partly) due shame that I decided to get into better shape. I was not happy with who I was physically, and society made it clear that because I was fat, that meant I was unattractive and lazy - an outward projection of impotence and character flaws.

    However, it was also shame that stopped me from actually getting off my ass and exercising for so long. Being ashamed of my body meant that I was afraid to be seen in public at length. A fat person in and of themselves can sometimes be considered a spectacle; but a fat person trying to exercise? ....someone bring the popcorn so we can all laugh at the fatass suffering! (Ever wonder why The Biggest Loser is such a successful show?) I was so ashamed of myself that I resorted to waiting until after dark or before dawn to go out and exercise.

    This guy is full of shit. There's plenty of shame and stigma forced onto obese people already.
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    Jan 26, 2013 1:36 AM GMT
    "Hate the fat - not the fattie."

    Oh wait, that sounds familiar.
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    Jan 26, 2013 10:12 PM GMT
    rugbyjockca saidIf that's the only way to eliminate the epidemic, then let's keep the epidemic and start focusing on eliminating the assholes.

    + 100

    Beating people or blackmailing them are also a good way to get them to do as you want.
    Doesn't makes it ethical or healthy.
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    Jan 26, 2013 10:14 PM GMT
    minox said

    Beating people or blackmailing them are also a good way to get them to do as you want.


    ooo those are good ideas! thanks! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 26, 2013 10:17 PM GMT
    How many people's lives have really been made better by scarlet letters?

    Self-improvement is a bottom-up process, not a top-down one.
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    Jan 26, 2013 10:18 PM GMT
    Educating people is probably the real step that needs to be taken. That would probably solve or help prevent the problem in the first place. Honestly I can't recall much discussion about it at all during schooling.
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    Jan 26, 2013 10:21 PM GMT
    Wasn`t it shame that was supposed to turn us straight?
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    Jan 26, 2013 10:22 PM GMT
    Slut shaming's still acceptable tho right?
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    Jan 26, 2013 10:23 PM GMT
    Were that the case, there would be no fat people.

    Leading health academic is moron, latest study finds...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 26, 2013 10:24 PM GMT
    Narciso saidSlut shaming's still acceptable tho right?


    Not only but such a great ice-breaker......icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 26, 2013 10:38 PM GMT
    Bromoflexual saidAs a formerly obese person, I can say that shame is a double-edge sword. It was (partly) due shame that I decided to get into better shape. I was not happy with who I was physically, and society made it clear that because I was fat, that meant I was unattractive and lazy - an outward projection of impotence and character flaws.

    However, it was also shame that stopped me from actually getting off my ass and exercising for so long. Being ashamed of my body meant that I was afraid to be seen in public at length. A fat person in and of themselves can sometimes be considered a spectacle; but a fat person trying to exercise? ....someone bring the popcorn so we can all laugh at the fatass suffering! (Ever wonder why The Biggest Loser is such a successful show?) I was so ashamed of myself that I resorted to waiting until after dark or before dawn to go out and exercise.

    This guy is full of shit. There's plenty of shame and stigma forced onto obese people already.



    So much this. could not agree more.
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    Jan 26, 2013 11:01 PM GMT
    Bromoflexual saidAs a formerly obese person, I can say that shame is a double-edge sword. It was (partly) due shame that I decided to get into better shape. I was not happy with who I was physically, and society made it clear that because I was fat, that meant I was unattractive and lazy - an outward projection of impotence and character flaws.

    However, it was also shame that stopped me from actually getting off my ass and exercising for so long. Being ashamed of my body meant that I was afraid to be seen in public at length. A fat person in and of themselves can sometimes be considered a spectacle; but a fat person trying to exercise? ....someone bring the popcorn so we can all laugh at the fatass suffering! (Ever wonder why The Biggest Loser is such a successful show?) I was so ashamed of myself that I resorted to waiting until after dark or before dawn to go out and exercise.

    This guy is full of shit. There's plenty of shame and stigma forced onto obese people already.


    Totally agree Bromo, I was there too.
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    Jan 26, 2013 11:06 PM GMT
    Maybe industrial foodstuffs like HFCS are part of the problem.
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    Jan 26, 2013 11:10 PM GMT
    seafrontbloke saidMaybe industrial foodstuffs like HFCS are part of the problem.


    Agreed. If chemicals and unnatural things weren't being sold as food, things everyone would be a lot healthier.
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    Jan 26, 2013 11:14 PM GMT
    ^^^
    Only going to get worse....icon_cry.gif
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    Jan 26, 2013 11:16 PM GMT
    Ugh I just ate so much pasta. Someone needs to shame me pronto for it icon_redface.gif
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    Jan 26, 2013 11:32 PM GMT
    Bromoflexual saidAs a formerly obese person, I can say that shame is a double-edge sword. It was (partly) due shame that I decided to get into better shape. I was not happy with who I was physically, and society made it clear that because I was fat, that meant I was unattractive and lazy - an outward projection of impotence and character flaws.

    However, it was also shame that stopped me from actually getting off my ass and exercising for so long. Being ashamed of my body meant that I was afraid to be seen in public at length. A fat person in and of themselves can sometimes be considered a spectacle; but a fat person trying to exercise? ....someone bring the popcorn so we can all laugh at the fatass suffering! (Ever wonder why The Biggest Loser is such a successful show?) I was so ashamed of myself that I resorted to waiting until after dark or before dawn to go out and exercise.

    This guy is full of shit. There's plenty of shame and stigma forced onto obese people already.


    I think you're right.

    Fat asses often have low self esteem which is at the very base of why they let themselves go in the first place. Food is often their medication. Other times, it's just a really poor culture of too much, too often, too fried, too sweet, and no exercise.

    However,...folks need personal responsibility. You don't wake up one morning 100 pounds overweight. It takes YEARS of bad behavior. We aren't talking an occasional "cheat meal" here, but, ongoing, daily, bad behavior.

    Now, many in the gay community are scared to eat for fear for being called fat, and work out and complain about not making gains, while they starve. There's a happy spot.

    In the end, we owe it to society / The Global Village to take care of ourselves, whether it's a walk to the local store, or 3 hour workouts, everyone HAS AN OBLIGATION to take care of themselves.

    The movie "Food Inc." goes into how marketing is done, and how bad some processed food is. "Supersize Me" also show how terribly some folks eat.

    For the the first time in modern times, mortality is decreasing, despite modern medicine. The current generation will NOT outlive its predecessors, and, that's a sad statement on modern culture.

    We need public health care for beginners. Second, we need better nutrition education in schools, and to stop spending money on armed guards and perpetual wars. Third, we need to intervene more aggressively on that fat kid, before he becomes a fat adult.

    The US military says that fully 3/4 of all young men are ineligible for military service.. A major portion of the number has such poor fitness, they can't pass the most basic fitness test. Another portion simply doesn't have a high school diploma or GED, and the rest have a criminal record resultant of "The War on Drugs."

    Our public policy on this needs a solid review and we need to "Break The Taboo" on not just the worthless "War On Drugs" but how we implement health care.

    Folks have a responsibility to themselves, and to The Global Village, to take care of themselves.

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    Jan 26, 2013 11:35 PM GMT
    Uggghhhh. Another useless Riddler post. The Daily Mail isn't a great source... they go for sensationalism. Look at their front page. icon_rolleyes.gif

    On this topic, being supportive, and setting an example, and providing resources so that the obese know that there's ways out, is far better than shaming.
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    Jan 26, 2013 11:35 PM GMT
    Narciso saidUgh I just ate so much pasta. Someone needs to shame me pronto for it icon_redface.gif


    You gonna' be carbed up, full, pretty, and happy. Yumm.
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    Jan 26, 2013 11:40 PM GMT
    Timbales said
    seafrontbloke saidMaybe industrial foodstuffs like HFCS are part of the problem.


    Agreed. If chemicals and unnatural things weren't being sold as food, things everyone would be a lot healthier.


    That's not true.

    Folks who are overweight consume more calories than they expend.

    If you want to gain weight, you eat more calories than you burn.

    If you want to lose weight, you eat fewer calories than you burn.

    Processed food often has too much sodium; too much fat. Fast food literally is a killer, but, not all chemicals in the food are bad. Preservatives keep our food safe, lower food waste, and lower costs, for example.
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    Jan 26, 2013 11:44 PM GMT
    I love stockiness on some guys! Especially when they're cool confident and not super sad about it. Sure, they could workout, but dat ass!
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    Jan 26, 2013 11:46 PM GMT
    chuckystud said
    Narciso saidUgh I just ate so much pasta. Someone needs to shame me pronto for it icon_redface.gif


    You gonna' be carbed up, full, pretty, and happy. Yumm.


    And well on my way to a nap!