"My Roommate Got Fired" episode 2... updated post re: roomie getting fired over a scarf (like something from "Office Space")

  • dommyinlosang...

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    Jan 26, 2013 8:20 PM GMT
    update at bottom...

    previously on "My Roomate Got Fired"

    it's like something out of "the office" or "office space"

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    my roomie and good friend, months ago, was so happy... a job he was comfortable at and had for 3 years, health insurance... money saved, etc...

    THEN

    a fucking scarf ruined it... he's working early this week (it's a basic job with the public but he liked it) ... a co-worker (not at work at that moment) calls him to see if a scarf is in lost and found (actually a drawer where they throw things before it's put in lost and found)... he looks... she asks him to snap a pic and send it to her... he does... she says it has something to do with a customer leaving it behind and this friend supposedly found it but no one could find it in the regular spot... (thousands of people come to this place every day so it's not a tiny store)

    my friend reminds someone to log the stuff in the drawer... (he worked in a different area) and just goes back to work

    well...

    he goes into work yesterday and gets grilled and interrogated for 90 minutes by the GM as they try to figure out scarf-gate... he keeps telling them he's not involved all he did was take a picture of a scarf and he doesn't even know if the scarf he took a pic of was the scarf that went missing... 90 minutes of questions and being accused of lying over and over again like they are looking for bin laden... he was in tears

    the scarf is now nowhere to be found... he suspects his friend took it and is trying to cover her tracks... this is just a scarf... it's not spun with gold...

    then they started grilling him on other employees and what they were doing... it sounded absolutely insane...

    long story short he got suspended for a week then fired then applied for unemployment and they denied him becasue he was accused of theft when all he did was take picture of a scarf in a drawer.

    so flash forward to today... HE GETS FIRED AGAIN... here's the update...

    he quickly got another job at a pinkberry... he hated it so he's not that sad... but he did a fine job there... it's not complicated... it's pinkberry for chrissake... and his manager just told him last week he was doing a great job there, but he was getting cheated by the owner who was not giving him all the tips and seemed to be pocketing or giving it to others. he was given flat amounts like 20 or 40 every 2 weeks... there was no logic to it... and people who didn't work with the public apparently got some as well and the manager seemed to pocket more... really bad taste on their part... so he nicely questioned it then he was given some extra cash to make up for the "mistake"... but the odd tip dispersal continued. he asked again and that was it... he was immediately dropped to 8 hours of work last week then he was fired today.

    are you supposed to just shut up and get cheated? in both cases he did the right thing and got fired.

    what's wrong with owners? why can't people who own companies be nice and honest?

  • MikeW

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    Jan 26, 2013 10:52 PM GMT
    I work retail management and that story is insane.

    He needs to talk with someone who knows employment law in your state. This could potentially be grounds for a suit.
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    Jan 26, 2013 10:59 PM GMT
    I am glad I don't work in a country which has at will employment (if I did I would have been fired from my current job by now)
  • Kriss

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    Jan 27, 2013 2:05 AM GMT
    this is sad and scary! All this drama and potential loss over a scarf. Someone needs a good punch in da face.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jan 27, 2013 2:30 AM GMT
    and you know it will just eventually end up in a goodwill box ... sounds like a cursed scarf ... probably the original owner got it as a hex gift icon_twisted.gif
  • Fable

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    Jan 27, 2013 3:08 AM GMT
    Can't believe he stole my scarf.

    dat ws lyk my favrite scarf as well betch. lyke i usd to fro it ovr my shldr n al sorts. ttyl hunties
  • dommyinlosang...

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    Jan 27, 2013 8:09 PM GMT
    fable saidCan't believe he stole my scarf.

    dat ws lyk my favrite scarf as well betch. lyke i usd to fro it ovr my shldr n al sorts. ttyl hunties


    WELL MADAM... IF THAT WAS YOUR SCARF... MAY YOU BURN IN STRAIGHT HELL icon_twisted.gif
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    Jan 27, 2013 8:32 PM GMT
    They are pulling some shady shit to cover some tracks. What they have done is harassment. He really needs an attorney, but I know that may be out of the budget. What he really needs to be doing while he's off is job hunting.

    I am so sorry to hear about this.
  • hebrewman

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    Jan 27, 2013 8:38 PM GMT
    bus9ja2d saidI am glad I don't work in a country which has at will employment (if I did I would have been fired from my current job by now)


    yeah we have some pretty fucked up employment laws here in the us. it's what the 'job creators' call the 'free market'. and it sucks. big time. especially for the working bloke.
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    Jan 27, 2013 8:40 PM GMT
    Sounds like works for Abercrombie & Fitch
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    Jan 27, 2013 8:52 PM GMT
    that sounds like it would be wrongful dismissal if he indeed does get fired.
    He needs to go to the labour relations board or whatever governing body in your area takes care of things like this. He needs to at least know what his rights are and he should exercise them to their fullest extent against these idiotic managers.
  • monet

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    Jan 27, 2013 8:58 PM GMT
    1. Get a lawyer

    2. With lawyers permission send a written letter or email to the General Manager telling everything that happened.

    3. Go out and look for a new, better job.

    4. Wait.
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    Jan 27, 2013 9:22 PM GMT
    monet said1. Get a lawyer

    2. With lawyers permission send a written letter or email to the General Manager telling everything that happened.

    3. Go out and look for a new, better job.

    4. Wait.


    My thoughts exactly. Sometimes the $200 or $300 spent on an attorney to write a firm letter is money very well-spent. Plus, they will probably never bother him again.
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    Jan 27, 2013 9:33 PM GMT
    HR should be notified as well as getting a lawyer. There is no proof of him taking it, so in the big picture, they are setting themselves up for a lawsuit. HR should have been involved from the start.
  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Jan 27, 2013 9:35 PM GMT
    Your friend should seek new employment as others have stated; even if he doesn't find something and ends up not needing a new job; the fact that he took control of the situation will make him more confident of his future.
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    Jan 27, 2013 9:42 PM GMT
    It's not about the scarf.



    P.S. They told me this was MY stapler!!!
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    Jan 27, 2013 9:44 PM GMT
    turbobilly saidIt's not about the scarf.



    P.S. They told me this was MY stapler!!!


    The plot thickens!
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    Jan 27, 2013 9:48 PM GMT
    Your friend needs to get a lawyer for this. HR should have been made aware of something like this immediately and if they did approve of it, then your friends' HR rep should have been present. Personally, I wouldn't want to work in that kind of environment, and hopefully this is a blessing in disguise for your friend.
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    Jan 27, 2013 10:13 PM GMT
    smudgetool said
    turbobilly saidIt's not about the scarf.



    P.S. They told me this was MY stapler!!!


    The plot thickens!


    Yeah...um.....so....we're going to be moving your desk down to the basement.....

    milton
  • shutoman

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    Jan 28, 2013 12:24 AM GMT
    I used to be an in-house lawyer, and some managers are utterly dismal. They have no grasp of procedure, they shoot off an 'investigation' without any idea of where it's going and then they have to pretend there's been serious malfeasance to cover the fact that they panicked.

    I'm sorry for your friend but he MUST get a lawyer. This is why:

    Those same managers that have panicked will slap the blame on him when he leaves. He needs to ensure that he will get a good, clean reference so that he can continue his career free of taint.

    Seriously, if he can get a loan from his parents, etc. and even if he can't,

    They have been stupid and unfortunately they may look to the sweet gay kid as the fall guy. He needs someone to be tough on his behalf.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings; but this nice man now has to show he can't be messed with.

    And yes - he should get a new job BUT he should not resign while still under investigation. That, unfortunately, always looks like a confession of guilt.
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    Jan 28, 2013 12:31 AM GMT
    The story is really weird!
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    Jan 28, 2013 12:32 AM GMT
    Agree with previous post....your friend needs to get away from this place - but they have to clear their name first. Otherwise this 'incident' is going to make future employment very difficult.
  • dommyinlosang...

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    Jan 28, 2013 1:06 AM GMT
    sweetyork saidThe story is really weird!


    i know... it's driving me nuts... i like when things make sense... this doesn't...
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    Jan 28, 2013 1:34 AM GMT
    This is such a sad predicament for your friend. Echoing to what most of my fellow rj'rs have said, tell him to get a lawyer and get this mess sorted. He should keep an eye out for a new job

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    I hope everything gets resolved.
  • dommyinlosang...

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    Feb 01, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
    UPDATE: well it's been a week and no one has called him. i think that's nuts.

    1) he took the initiative and emailed the general manager asking not to get fired, and breaking down everything that happened. emphasizing all he did was take a picture of a scarf in a drawer

    2) he called human resources and explained it all to them and hopefully they will let him know what's going on

    3) some lawyer friends told me the parts of his story where he's threatened with punishment if he tells anyone what happened in the meeting and the 90 minute interrogation sounds illegal

    and 4) he went on a job interview and got a new job starting monday (if he's fired)... it's not great, and the owner seems like an insane cheap micro manager... but at least he has a backup