Why do so many get....Defensive or angry?

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    Sep 28, 2008 7:07 AM GMT

    I often wonder why so many here get up set when someone
    asks a simple question on a given topic....kind of like this one?

    I mean, it seems odd that one would fly off the handle for just
    trying to gain additional wisdom on something, like all this political crap...LOL
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    Sep 28, 2008 7:31 AM GMT
    Who's getting heated?
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    Sep 28, 2008 7:45 AM GMT
    Because the internet is serious business. Seriously.
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    Sep 28, 2008 8:04 AM GMT
    Azstreaker saidI mean, it seems odd that one would fly off the handle for just trying to gain additional wisdom on something, like all this political crap...LOL

    Because usually someone throws that crap. Then the shit hits the fan and it becomes serious shit. no shit.
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    Sep 28, 2008 8:20 AM GMT
    Some people are just like pyromaniacs, like fire-starters and instigators ..

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    Sep 28, 2008 8:27 AM GMT
    blunt_ saidBecause the internet is serious business. Seriously.

    It's spelled "Srsly" ....Srsly!
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    Sep 28, 2008 8:47 AM GMT
    ActiveAndFit saidSome people are just like pyromaniacs, like fire-starters and instigators ..




    Burn sum azz bitches
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    Sep 28, 2008 10:19 AM GMT
    Azstreaker said
    I often wonder why so many here get up set when someone
    asks a simple question on a given topic....kind of like this one?

    I mean, it seems odd that one would fly off the handle for just
    trying to gain additional wisdom on something, like all this political crap...LOL

    Because they're not very bright to begin with and have no expectation of that condition changing.
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    Sep 28, 2008 10:53 AM GMT
    Some people are just passionate about the topic their discussing. Or its there insecurity to prove that they are right/smart. I have a friend that feels the need to give quotes and statements as if they were facts. Its like she has something to prove to herself and others. Are discussions usually end in yelling.
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    Sep 28, 2008 11:01 AM GMT
    Maybe we all take this too seriously. I am as guilty as anyone of getting too intense. I am pretty good as long as it is just discussing the topic. When people start attacking people, I tend to fight back. It is just a fact that most people on here are liberal. No problem with that. I tend to be conservative. I love discussing TOPICS, but when someone says someone is wrong or evil or stupid because they do not agree with the majority on here, I tend to react more strongly.

    Hey, I understand that most people on here are liberal. Most gay people are liberal, with good reason. Republicans are not always the best friends of gays. But there is a big difference between conservative and Republicans. Conservative is a philosophy, Rebublican is a party. I think the two get confused. Republicans do not always act like conservatives. If they did, they would stay out of people's personal lives. A true conservative would. But Republicans are a party, not a philosophy.

    The Godfather of the modern Republican party, Barry Goldwater, said the Rebuplican party should stay out of abortion issues, that abortion was a private matter. He also said gays should serve in the military. I think his quote was "you do not have to be straight to shoot straight".

    Republicans have moved far away from true conservative ideals. They have become as bad as Democrats in trying to get involved in people's personal lives. That is not true Conservatism. True Conservatism revolves around a few basic ideas:

    Small central, or Federal, government

    States rights over Federal rights

    Strong national defense

    Less taxation

    Individual responsibility

    For the most part, there is not much difference between the parties. They talk differently, but do the same thing. Both take as much money as they can. They both court lobbyists and accept lobbyist money. They both care more about getting elected and re-elected than most anything. They both will do whatever it takes to get elected and re-elected. Earmarks for special projects, ect.

    I am a conservative, not a Rebublican or Log Cabin Rebublican, contrary to popular belief. I am not registered with either party, never have been, and I have voted in every election since I was 18. I voted for Bill Clinton and in fact I voted for Obama in the primaries this year. I have voted for Diane Fienstein and against Barbara Boxer.

    I was arrested for protesting against Pete Wilson, a past Republican California Governor, when he went back on a campaign promise to give gays in CA domestic partnership rights. I was part of a two-day protest at the state capitol. Not sure what that makes me except that I fight when I think it is right and I am definitely not afraid to take a stand.

    I definitely disagree with some liberals but obviously I disagree with some conservatives. I am not afraid of a fight on idealogy. But I have more respect for people that keep it to idealogy. Not I am an asshole, you are an asshole. Shoot down my statements, as allot have correctly, and I will try to shoot down yours if I disagree.

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    Sep 28, 2008 11:20 AM GMT
    Azstreaker said
    I often wonder why so many here get up set when someone
    asks a simple question on a given topic....kind of like this one?

    I mean, it seems odd that one would fly off the handle for just
    trying to gain additional wisdom on something, like all this political crap...LOL

    Because getting all bent outta shape is part of their stretching routine? Dunno...just a hunch. lol
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    Sep 28, 2008 11:29 AM GMT
    I'm goin' out on a big limb here

    ... But you think it might be a need for DRAMA ?!

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    Sep 28, 2008 11:52 AM GMT
    Azstreaker said, "I often wonder why so many here get up set when someone
    asks a simple question on a given topic....kind of like this one?

    I mean, it seems odd that one would fly off the handle for just
    trying to gain additional wisdom on something, like all this political crap...LOL"



    What are you trying to say? Huh? I know you're trying to ask a simple question, but it clearly shows you don't get it! Come on now. Geeeez!


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    Sep 28, 2008 12:02 PM GMT
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    Sep 28, 2008 12:06 PM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle said, "Some people can't tolerate disagreement. They are fine with you if you share their own opinion over the matter yet the moment you disagree you're viewed as incompetent in their eyes."



    It's not that. What gets my blood boiling is when we're discussing/arguing/debating politics, and someone comes up with contradictory statements or being dishonest or very illogical conclusions and they deny it when it's brought to their attention. It's not a matter of differing opinion, but a matter of differing levels of integrity.
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    Sep 28, 2008 1:08 PM GMT
    Muchmorethan, "Some people can't tolerate disagreement. They are fine with you if you share their own opinion over the matter yet the moment you disagree you're viewed as incompetent in their eyes.

    We finally agree. I could not have said it better.
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    Sep 28, 2008 1:26 PM GMT
    gymguy1 saidSome people are just passionate about the topic their discussing. Or its there insecurity to prove that they are right/smart. I have a friend that feels the need to give quotes and statements as if they were facts. Its like she has something to prove to herself and others....


    Pretty much sums it up.

    I'll also add...

    I become passionate on political topics because I understand people's beliefs and votes aren't just ideas and pressing buttons. With the press of a button and a couple of ideas in hand in the years 2000 and 2004, two countries collapsed, hundreds of thousands are dead, two, perhaps three wars may be loaming overhead, and the world may be in store of a second great depression. To not become passionate is a sign of sociopathy.

    Nevertheless, hubris can be mistaken for passion.
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    Sep 28, 2008 1:33 PM GMT
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    ...That says it all...right there.


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    Sep 28, 2008 2:38 PM GMT
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    become passionate on political topics because I understand people's beliefs and votes aren't just ideas and pressing buttons. With the press of a button and a couple of ideas in hand in the years 2000 and 2004, two countries collapsed, hundreds of thousands are dead, two, perhaps three wars may be loaming overhead, and the world may be in store of a second great depression. To not become passionate is a sign of sociopathy.


    What does that mean? A bit to cryptic for me. Two countries collapsed?
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    Sep 28, 2008 3:04 PM GMT
    Fight or flight reaction from unwarranted fear

    Too much testosterone to the brain

    Loss of control

    Frustration and then desperation over feeling that there is a lot at stake personally or for the country or the world.

    For example, if you are in the process of burning down my house, I am unlikely to want to sit down with you and have a reasonable conversation about why you are doing that to me. I am more likely to want to take a shot gun and blow your head off. Obviously, this is an extreme example, but for some there is not that much difference when a person is on the opposite side of an argument where your human rights and dignity are at stake (an LGBT person living in a rural area of America), or if some feel extremely threatened by global climate change (a person living in Bangladesh), or if some feel threatened by a sea change in human values away from religion (a fundamentalist), or if some live in a country being threatened by a politician in another country (a person living in Iran by the Bush administration).

    For most of us, we do not see these debates over topics to be that life threatening but for some they may see such a desperate need for people to believe the way they do that it becomes an imperative.

    I have on few occasions gotten angry or defensive in these threads. Some have chosen to call me names and try to besmirch my character because of an opinion I hold and at those times I have decided to ignore the comments and not post again. At other times I have broken my cardinal rule not to get emotional over a topic I feel a personal connection with and have not thought clearly about what I was posting even though there is plenty of opportunity for that pause and reflection.

    We are not likely to change a thing by debating in these threads. It is a more likely that we will get to know each other a little better here and learn that we are all human and therefore, make some mistakes. I have already forgiven the times when I felt assaulted here and hopefully, in turn, I will be forgiven for the times that I was defensive or angry.
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    Sep 28, 2008 3:26 PM GMT
    Hey Alexander7...totally agree.
    I've had my pearls swiped off my neck many times just because someone t wanted to make a point and use me as the example.
    Damn it hurt and it didn't have to really but I was so passionate that what I believe was true and the end all. Its like this...everytime my lil niece comes over for a visit she seems to find my magazines and proceed to color clothes on them...different discussion thread.....but I tell her damnit sophie pick up all your crayons when youre done okay....and she says...thats right "unkie: Red is red,green is green and purple is my bff and they all live together. Now if we can all do like the crayons do in sophie's box.
    Im not mocking anyone but at the end of the day...if its causing stress and I can't relieve it but then I go off and do something "columbine - ish" just under the radar....whose freedom did I just erode away because I just could/would NOT handle my crap. Know what Im sayin? *Retorical, no need for a response.
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    Sep 28, 2008 3:33 PM GMT
    blunt_ saidBecause the internet is serious business. Seriously.


    To me what makes this post great, is the profile photo that goes with it.
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    Sep 28, 2008 3:56 PM GMT
    Testosterone: our brains are soaking in it.
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    Sep 28, 2008 4:04 PM GMT
    Triggerman saidIAMTRY21-

    become passionate on political topics because I understand people's beliefs and votes aren't just ideas and pressing buttons. With the press of a button and a couple of ideas in hand in the years 2000 and 2004, two countries collapsed, hundreds of thousands are dead, two, perhaps three wars may be loaming overhead, and the world may be in store of a second great depression. To not become passionate is a sign of sociopathy.


    What does that mean? A bit to cryptic for me. Two countries collapsed?


    Afghanistan. Iraq.
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    Sep 28, 2008 4:14 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Triggerman said[/cite]Maybe we all take this too seriously. I am as guilty as anyone of getting too intense. I am pretty good as long as it is just discussing the topic. When people start attacking people, I tend to fight back. It is just a fact that most people on here are liberal. No problem with that. I tend to be conservative. I love discussing TOPICS, but when someone says someone is wrong or evil or stupid because they do not agree with the majority on here, I tend to react more strongly.


    Same here....Someone was discussing Ed Hardy on a thread. A lot of people were downright mean and saying things that people who wear Ed Hardy look like clowns, calling it shit etc etc etc. I wear the brand and felt insulted. One thing is disliking something and saying why and another one is just insulting people because you do not agree with them.

    I enjoy debating and I can concede when I am not right, some people can't and they decide to throw in personal attacks because they can't defend their point of view.