If Quebec hasn't signed the Constitution, how are they part of Canada?

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    Jan 27, 2013 4:19 AM GMT
    "MONTREAL - All three candidates vying for the Quebec Liberal leadership say they want the province to sign the Canadian Constitution, though not necessarily any time soon. Philippe Couillard, a former health minister and the presumed front-runner, said Saturday it's something Quebec must work toward."

    WTF kind of slipshod country are you people running up there?

    Don't you have the basic legal principle " No tickee, No washee" up there?

    Virginia hasn't signed your constitution either. Are we a de facto part of Canada?
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    Jan 28, 2013 3:24 AM GMT
    Apparently, nobody knows.

    I'm not surprised. Canadians pay absolutely no attention to their own country. Because it's boooriiiing!
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:17 AM GMT
    Caslon22000 saidIf Quebec hasn't signed the Constitution, how are they part of Canada?
    Have you signed any part of the US Constitution?
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:32 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Caslon22000 saidIf Quebec hasn't signed the Constitution, how are they part of Canada?
    Have you signed any part of the US Constitution?

    Of course, Virginia did.
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    Jan 28, 2013 4:53 AM GMT
    Caslon22000 said
    paulflexes said
    Caslon22000 saidIf Quebec hasn't signed the Constitution, how are they part of Canada?
    Have you signed any part of the US Constitution?

    Of course, Virginia did.
    But did you?
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    Jan 28, 2013 5:53 PM GMT
    yourname2000 saidWrong. Your premise is flawed from the get-go to be inflammatory (shame on you! icon_razz.gif), solely so you could say "Canadians pay absolutely no attention to their own country", like the lonely drunk mudrucker you are. icon_biggrin.gif

    You've picked one of the stalest topics for Canadians possible....from way back in 1982 (half of RJ's Canadians weren't even born). And you wonder why you aren't rewarded with pages and pages of boring posts on a boring topic.

    Regarding Quebec being part of Canada, they were the first part of Canada (with Ontario). There has never been a "Canada" that didn't include Quebec...that was the deal "Two Nations". The BNA act 1867 (aka: the British Parliament's "British North America Act", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_North_America_Acts) was our constitution (with various revisions throughout the years) until 1982, when the act was patriated to Canada. At that time:
    from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Act_1982The Supreme Court of Canada ruled in the Patriation Reference that provincial consent was not technically needed, but that substantial consent from the provinces was needed according to constitutional convention.[8] Trudeau succeeded in convincing nine provinces out of ten by adding the Notwithstanding Clause to limit the application of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms[9] as a result of discussions during a First Ministers' conference in November 1981.[10]

    Now really. Asking a Canadian about a topic as loaded as the patriation of the constitution 30 years ago, with the intent to foment a flamewar between Quebecois and Anglophones, is about as trolly as it gets, lol.....you might as well walk up to a husband and wife and say "so, been about 10 years since your baby died, right? --how's that been?"

    But while we're on trolly posts, riddle me this:

    I keep hearing that...
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    ...so why do they let you stay?? icon_cool.gif

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    And no, your ho-hum, no-name state can't become part of Canada. We have standards (and Saskatchewan....we're full up on stupid already). icon_lol.gif

    It was a legitimate question from a Non-Canadian. Who knew your sad, bogus confederation is based on a declaration that Quebec had no choice anyway. As if anybody wants your fucking frozen piece of tundra and caribou.

    And I know it took so long to get an answer cuz none of you Canucks knew the answer. I'm sure you had to go look it up. Canadians are so ignorant of Canada, that they had to make the country's name short and easy to spell so you could remember it.
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    Jan 28, 2013 8:18 PM GMT
    In simplistic terms, Quebec hasn't signed the repatriated constitution - it doesn't mean that the other agreements aren't in effect - and it doesn't mean that the charter of rights and freedoms doesn't apply - and it certainly doesn't mean that the supreme court doesn't rule on cases in Quebec without considering the constitution (old and new).

    It simply means that Quebec is holding out for something more - which may or may not come - until signing. And life is fluid, people change, and 20 years from now, the reasons politicians chose not to sign may be moot.

    Thanks for taking an interest in Canadian provincial politics. Whether it was done to instigate reaction or not, it's always nice to know someone is thinking about us up here :-)
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    Jan 28, 2013 9:30 PM GMT
    JimmyMTL saidIn simplistic terms, Quebec hasn't signed the repatriated constitution - it doesn't mean that the other agreements aren't in effect - and it doesn't mean that the charter of rights and freedoms doesn't apply - and it certainly doesn't mean that the supreme court doesn't rule on cases in Quebec without considering the constitution (old and new).

    It simply means that Quebec is holding out for something more - which may or may not come - until signing. And life is fluid, people change, and 20 years from now, the reasons politicians chose not to sign may be moot.

    Thanks for taking an interest in Canadian provincial politics. Whether it was done to instigate reaction or not, it's always nice to know someone is thinking about us up here :-)

    It was a genuine question.

    YN2K and I tease each other. ... I have so much Canadian ancestry, I piss Tim Horton coffee.
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    Jan 28, 2013 9:36 PM GMT
    Caslon22000 said
    JimmyMTL saidIn simplistic terms, Quebec hasn't signed the repatriated constitution - it doesn't mean that the other agreements aren't in effect - and it doesn't mean that the charter of rights and freedoms doesn't apply - and it certainly doesn't mean that the supreme court doesn't rule on cases in Quebec without considering the constitution (old and new).

    It simply means that Quebec is holding out for something more - which may or may not come - until signing. And life is fluid, people change, and 20 years from now, the reasons politicians chose not to sign may be moot.

    Thanks for taking an interest in Canadian provincial politics. Whether it was done to instigate reaction or not, it's always nice to know someone is thinking about us up here :-)

    It was a genuine question.

    YN2K and I tease each other. ... I have so much Canadian ancestry, I piss Tim Horton coffee.


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    Jan 28, 2013 9:37 PM GMT
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    Caslon22000 said
    JimmyMTL saidIn simplistic terms, Quebec hasn't signed the repatriated constitution - it doesn't mean that the other agreements aren't in effect - and it doesn't mean that the charter of rights and freedoms doesn't apply - and it certainly doesn't mean that the supreme court doesn't rule on cases in Quebec without considering the constitution (old and new).

    It simply means that Quebec is holding out for something more - which may or may not come - until signing. And life is fluid, people change, and 20 years from now, the reasons politicians chose not to sign may be moot.

    Thanks for taking an interest in Canadian provincial politics. Whether it was done to instigate reaction or not, it's always nice to know someone is thinking about us up here :-)

    It was a genuine question.

    YN2K and I tease each other. ... I have so much Canadian ancestry, I piss Tim Horton coffee.


    But you won't eat the doughnuts. icon_mad.gif

    I've got my figure to think of.
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    Jan 28, 2013 9:50 PM GMT
    It's a good question because I myself doubt that the vast majority of Canadians could answer it.

    Rick Mercer if he hasn't already, should do a show "Asking Canadians" on the street as he did "Asking Americans" just to see how dumb many of us are. It would be an eye-opener.