Obama Calls Out Rush Limbaugh and Fox News for Creating a Toxic Partisan Environment

  • metta

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    Jan 28, 2013 4:25 AM GMT
    Obama Calls Out Rush Limbaugh and Fox News for Creating a Toxic Partisan Environment

    http://www.politicususa.com/obama-calls-rush-limbaugh-fox-news-poisoning-national-discourse.html
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    Jan 28, 2013 5:07 AM GMT
    This article, from an admittedly liberal website, assumes that congressional republicans actually listen to what alternative media actually says, and obeys. Anyone who listens to right wing commentators knows of their consistent frustrations with most republican politicians who seldom, if ever, listen to them. It's Obama that is being divisive by "calling out" his political opponents. Who does he think he is, Fidel Castro? We still have free speech in this country. For now, anyway. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 28, 2013 5:10 AM GMT
    Republicans hate faggots, bitches, spiks, niggers, wetbacks, teens, paupers, and anyone else who isn't a financially successful middle-aged white male.

    Obama called them out. The RJ version of that crowd is now butthurt.

    *puts on 'surprised' face to pretend to be surprised*

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    Jan 28, 2013 11:33 AM GMT
    But what I said won't stop the hysterical hissy fits.
  • shutoman

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    Jan 28, 2013 12:00 PM GMT
    If you are promoting free speech, Blakes7, how can you complain about Obama exercising it?
  • GQjock

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    Jan 28, 2013 12:23 PM GMT
    You Need Obama to make you realize Rush Limbaugh and FOX News have created a toxic partisan environment? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 28, 2013 12:59 PM GMT
    Obama's comments make Republicans look like slaves to Fox & Limbaugh. That isn't what voters elected them to do. Such a public perception weakens Republicans, which is exactly what Democrats want.

    The majority of Americans already believes that Republicans listen most to business and rich campaign donors. Now add Fox, Limbaugh and other right-wing media types to the list of those who pull the Republican strings. Leaving even less influence for the voters who actually put the politicians there. Not a good image to have.

    This might put Republicans in a tight corner. If their legislative actions & continued obstructionism conform with the wishes of the right-wing media then Obama's comments are confirmed, weakening their credibility with voters. Oppose the right-wing media and they'll be attacked by it, and lose the support of the more extreme elements of the Party, like the Teabaggers, who take their marching orders from that same media.

    Obama wasn't so much being divisive as laying a trap. He wasn't merely attacking Fox & Limbaugh, but undermining the Republicans who obey them. And with little to loss himself, as the Republicans have gone right back to being the Party of No following the election. Since they wouldn't take the carrot of bipartisanship, he's hitting them over the head with the stick of subservience to special interests of all kinds, including Fox & Limbaugh.
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    Jan 28, 2013 1:13 PM GMT
    shutoman saidIf you are promoting free speech, Blakes7, how can you complain about Obama exercising it?




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    Jan 28, 2013 2:07 PM GMT
    Blakes7 saidThis article, from an admittedly liberal website, assumes that congressional republicans actually listen to what alternative media actually says, and obeys. Anyone who listens to right wing commentators knows of their consistent frustrations with most republican politicians who seldom, if ever, listen to them. It's Obama that is being divisive by "calling out" his political opponents. Who does he think he is, Fidel Castro? We still have free speech in this country. For now, anyway. icon_rolleyes.gif


    So you're saying that Limbaugh, Fox news, etc... have no effect at all?

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    Jan 28, 2013 6:08 PM GMT
    topathlete said...history will correctly see Obama as a small, petty, divisive person who has played a big role in creating the toxic environment.

    And not see the Republicans in Congress as being the Party of No? You don't call that divisiveness? The Party that pledged from Day One of Obama's first term to make him fail, even at the greater cost to the American people, to prevent him from gaining a second term and so return power to the Republicans? A totally selfish power grab, at the expense of our country, and the concept of democracy? That's on the public record.

    So the rest of your rant is pure Republican BS. Try again when you have some facts and logic to back you up. icon_razz.gif
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    Jan 28, 2013 6:09 PM GMT
    Fox News, et. al. sow the seeds of aggression, fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the public square. Then they act as if they bear no responsibility when those seeds bear fruit. Their hyperbolic partisanship wrecks our political discourse by diverting conversations in meaningless directions.

    Over the next four years I hope Obama continues slamming these dipshits against the wall until their ears bleed.
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    Jan 28, 2013 7:00 PM GMT
    topathlete said
    ART_DECO said
    topathlete said...history will correctly see Obama as a small, petty, divisive person who has played a big role in creating the toxic environment.

    And not see the Republicans in Congress as being the Party of No? You don't call that divisiveness? The Party that pledged from Day One of Obama's first term to make him fail, even at the greater cost to the American people, to prevent him from gaining a second term and so return power to the Republicans? A totally selfish power grab, at the expense of our country, and the concept of democracy? That's on the public record.

    So the rest of your rant is pure Republican BS. Try again when you have some facts and logic to back you up. icon_razz.gif

    Pure BS on your part. Attempt to deflect away from your hero to find bad behavior in others to justify it.

    It is the goal of each party to win the next election. McConnell made a stupid remark, which has been used to justify the most divisive behavior by the Democrats.

    Party of No? Facts and logic? Try this: The Democratic-controlled Senate has failed to produce a budget proposal in 4 years, repeatedly violating the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974. How does that fit?

    Budget debates - Republicans compromised. Obama would not. Said only my way. His base loved it, but it helps create a divisive atmosphere.




    Is this guy a southbeach sock puppet account?



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    Jan 28, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
    Are you capable of any thoughts, or just agreeing with someone else with an emoticon?
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    Jan 28, 2013 8:43 PM GMT
    shutoman saidIf you are promoting free speech, Blakes7, how can you complain about Obama exercising it?



    I, as have others, said he is being very divisive.
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    Jan 28, 2013 8:45 PM GMT
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    Blakes7 saidThis article, from an admittedly liberal website, assumes that congressional republicans actually listen to what alternative media actually says, and obeys. Anyone who listens to right wing commentators knows of their consistent frustrations with most republican politicians who seldom, if ever, listen to them. It's Obama that is being divisive by "calling out" his political opponents. Who does he think he is, Fidel Castro? We still have free speech in this country. For now, anyway. icon_rolleyes.gif


    So you're saying that Limbaugh, Fox news, etc... have no effect at all?



    Very little, if the recent election is anything to go by.
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    Jan 28, 2013 8:46 PM GMT
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    topathlete said...history will correctly see Obama as a small, petty, divisive person who has played a big role in creating the toxic environment.

    And not see the Republicans in Congress as being the Party of No? You don't call that divisiveness? The Party that pledged from Day One of Obama's first term to make him fail, even at the greater cost to the American people, to prevent him from gaining a second term and so return power to the Republicans? A totally selfish power grab, at the expense of our country, and the concept of democracy? That's on the public record.

    So the rest of your rant is pure Republican BS. Try again when you have some facts and logic to back you up. icon_razz.gif


    If the situation were reversed, you'd be praising gridlock.
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    Jan 28, 2013 8:48 PM GMT
    atxd13 saidFox News, et. al. sow the seeds of aggression, fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the public square. Then they act as if they bear no responsibility when those seeds bear fruit. Their hyperbolic partisanship wrecks our political discourse by diverting conversations in meaningless directions.

    Over the next four years I hope Obama continues slamming these dipshits against the wall until their ears bleed.


    A perfect example of how the left diverts blame by accusing it's opponents of what the left itself does.
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    Jan 28, 2013 9:16 PM GMT
    Blakes7 said
    ART_DECO said
    topathlete said...history will correctly see Obama as a small, petty, divisive person who has played a big role in creating the toxic environment.

    And not see the Republicans in Congress as being the Party of No? You don't call that divisiveness? The Party that pledged from Day One of Obama's first term to make him fail, even at the greater cost to the American people, to prevent him from gaining a second term and so return power to the Republicans? A totally selfish power grab, at the expense of our country, and the concept of democracy? That's on the public record.

    So the rest of your rant is pure Republican BS. Try again when you have some facts and logic to back you up. icon_razz.gif


    If the situation were reversed, you'd be praising gridlock.


    Ha ha ..... Let us praise gridlock?
    Dude ..... your cohorts have filibustered EVERYTHING they have made Government basically nonexistent whenever and Where ever they possibly can
    This has NEVER EVER been seen in the history of the United States
    Thank God that Barack Obama has been able to circumvent around these obstacles that your party has created

    .... and Umm BTW .... would you praise the near economic self inflicted disaster that your party has now held over America's head like the Sword of Damocles ?
    ie Cantor's kick the can 3 months down the line?

    Your party is suffering from Obama-itis and judging by the polls its become terminal for them unless they stop with the idiot tactics they've employed over the last 4 years
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    Jan 28, 2013 9:25 PM GMT
    Blakes7 said
    atxd13 saidFox News, et. al. sow the seeds of aggression, fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the public square. Then they act as if they bear no responsibility when those seeds bear fruit. Their hyperbolic partisanship wrecks our political discourse by diverting conversations in meaningless directions.

    Over the next four years I hope Obama continues slamming these dipshits against the wall until their ears bleed.

    A perfect example of how the left diverts blame by accusing it's opponents of what the left itself does.

    The Left controls Fox? The Left tells Limbaugh, Beck, et al what to say?

    It's the Right that has blocked legislation in Congress for 4 years, not the Left. It's the Right that declared it would make Obama fail, from the first day of his first term, despite the cost to the US.

    No Democratic opposition in Congress has ever done that to Republicans, in all the history of the US, since the modern political parties were created. The Republicans are no longer the Loyal Opposition, as it was once called, but the Fanatical Subversives.

    Let's stop playing games, Blakes7, OK?
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    Jan 29, 2013 3:05 AM GMT
    You misunderstood me. Rage has blinded you. Oh well......
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    Jan 29, 2013 3:54 AM GMT
    Rhetoric aside, somebody name me the equivalent of Limbaugh and Fox News in these incidents (just the most recent ones, references are linked at the site):

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/01/28/fox-and-limbaugh-lash-out-at-obama-for-highligh/192424In October 2010, a New Yorker article by Ryan Lizza revealed that Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) had previously urged Democratic Sens. Joe Lieberman and John Kerry to advance climate bill negotiations as much as possible before Fox News could find out about the talks. Lizza wrote that "Graham warned Lieberman and Kerry that they needed to get as far as they could in negotiating the bill 'before Fox News got wind of the fact that this was a serious process,' one of the people involved in the negotiations said."

    Similarly, in July 2011, media reported that House Speaker John Boehner had briefed Limbaugh on his debt ceiling plan before even showing it to his Republican conference. Boehner also called into Limbaugh's show to seek the radio host's approval on air.

    Many Republican figures have also walked back comments they have made after Limbaugh objected to them. In October 2010, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) told The Wall Street Journal that Americans "want us to come together [with the administration]." After Limbaugh attacked Issa on air for his comments, Issa came on Limbaugh's show to distance himself from the article. As we noted at the time, other Republican figures have also apologized to Limbaugh:

    [Former] RNC chairman Michael Steele apologized for calling Limbaugh an "entertainer," Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) told Limbaugh he was sorry for comments defending the House Republican leadership against criticism from Limbaugh, and former Gov. Mark Sanford (R-SC) backed off criticism of Limbaugh's "I hope he fails" comments. Even Sarah Palin changed her mind about condemning Limbaugh's use of the word "retards."
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    Jan 29, 2013 4:04 AM GMT
    Blakes7 saidThis article, from an admittedly liberal website, assumes that congressional republicans actually listen to what alternative media actually says, and obeys. Anyone who listens to right wing commentators knows of their consistent frustrations with most republican politicians who seldom, if ever, listen to them. It's Obama that is being divisive by "calling out" his political opponents. Who does he think he is, Fidel Castro? We still have free speech in this country. For now, anyway. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Just as the Fox / Limbaugh fuckers have the right to speak their lies, the President has the right of free speech to call them out.
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    Jan 29, 2013 4:09 AM GMT
    Even Rush himself has the same view of his power over Republicans:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/rush-limbaugh-immigration-fox-amnesty-86823.html?hp=l9Rush Limbaugh said Monday that it’s up to him and Fox News to stop amnesty for undocumented immigrants.

    “I mean, thanks to Obama you have amnesty unless you get convicted of a major felony. So I don’t know that there’s any stopping this. It’s up to me and Fox News, and I don’t think Fox News is that invested in this. I don’t think there’s any Republican opposition to this of any majority consequence or size,” the conservative commentator said on his radio program, according to a show transcript.


    Can you imagine if, say, Rachel Maddow said the same thing, that it would be up to her to stop the electoral rigging currently afoot in multiple state legislatures?
  • shutoman

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    Jan 29, 2013 10:19 AM GMT
    Blakes7shutoman said

    If you are promoting free speech, Blakes7, how can you complain about Obama exercising it?

    I, as have others, said he is being very divisive.


    And exercising free speech means you mustn't be divisive? If you have a belief in a strong right of free speech it is precisely when it is divisive that freedom is proven.
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    Jan 29, 2013 12:46 PM GMT
    I wish the president would get back to being president and stop picking fights with the sad sack out of touch republican nut party. It does no one any good to point out the obvious. If the president wants to create a legacy, he should work on that and quit picking fights with the losers.