World Map of Chinese Raids to Seize Powdered Milk

  • ESL_Asian

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    Jan 30, 2013 12:16 PM GMT
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    Jan 30, 2013 12:58 PM GMT
    Is there a story to go with this?
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    Jan 30, 2013 1:33 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidIs there a story to go with this?

    Yes sir,

    The story is Chinese company produce the toxic powdered milk for baby. They add some impurity into the powdered milk so they have more product to sell, but the baby will get hurt by these impurity. At 2004, someone found this problem so media show it out to the public. And then, one guy go to court to charge the company. However, Chinese government didn't want it happen for some reasons, so the government arrested the guy who charge, and the Chinese court were actually under the government so court let it happened.

    Finally, the toxic powdered milk appear in China again and again, but no one charge the company anymore. The Chinese just fear the Chinese powdered milk, so they go to buy the powdered milk oversea.

    Sometime the oversea "local" powdered milk are cheaper than Chinese powdered milk, for example, Netherlands government subsidies their local powdered milk for Netherlands child. Of course, some oversea Chinese sees this "opportunity" and sends a lot of Netherlands local powdered milk out to make money. The price is still cheaper include postage.
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    Jan 30, 2013 1:36 PM GMT
    Seems, they still don't trust their own milk
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
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    Jan 30, 2013 1:37 PM GMT
    I see. But at the same time, does this not create more profits for the non-Chinese companies that make and sell powered baby formula? If these companies can increase production, and not cause dangerous shortages in their own countries, doesn't this help the current trade imbalances with China, a country which mainly exports while importing little from the West? And are the Chinese really "seizing" powered milk from other countries as the chart says, which means to take without paying, or are they buying it?
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    Jan 30, 2013 1:52 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidI see. But at the same time, does this not create more profits for the non-Chinese companies that make and sell powered baby formula? If they can increase production, and not cause dangerous shortages in their own countries, doesn't this help the current trade imbalances with China, a country which mainly exports while importing little from the West?

    Yes, actually the non-Chinese companies can increase production.
    The problem is........ Chinese love to rush at oversea.................
    They are enjoy to buy it through the friends, family or smuggling ring.
    By the way something more fun is some Chinese will buy the used powdered milk cans, replenish it with other powdered milk and sell.
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    Jan 30, 2013 2:14 PM GMT
    ESL_Asian said
    Yes, actually the non-Chinese companies can increase production.
    The problem is........ Chinese love to rush at oversea.................
    They are enjoy to buy it through the friends, family or smuggling ring.
    By the way something more fun is some Chinese will buy the used powdered milk cans, replenish it with other powdered milk and sell.

    Powered milk smuggling rings? An interesting concept for international crime.

    Maybe the inspiration for the next James Bond movie: Milkfinger. Or Live and Let Drink? Milkraker? OK, I'll stop now... icon_redface.gif
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    Jan 30, 2013 2:34 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    ESL_Asian said
    Yes, actually the non-Chinese companies can increase production.
    The problem is........ Chinese love to rush at oversea.................
    They are enjoy to buy it through the friends, family or smuggling ring.
    By the way something more fun is some Chinese will buy the used powdered milk cans, replenish it with other powdered milk and sell.

    Powered milk smuggling rings? An interesting concept for international crime.

    Maybe the inspiration for the next James Bond movie: Milkfinger. Or Live and Let Drink? Milkraker? OK, I'll stop now... icon_redface.gif

    LOL
    They don't need to pay the tax when they bring it out, but the company need to pay tax if sell oversea. Is it count to smuggling rings?
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    Jan 30, 2013 2:35 PM GMT



    This is a good exercise in awareness when buying any food products coming from China, or foods containing ingredients from China..
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    Jan 30, 2013 3:29 PM GMT
    ESL_Asian said
    ART_DECO said
    ESL_Asian said
    Yes, actually the non-Chinese companies can increase production.
    The problem is........ Chinese love to rush at oversea.................
    They are enjoy to buy it through the friends, family or smuggling ring.
    By the way something more fun is some Chinese will buy the used powdered milk cans, replenish it with other powdered milk and sell.

    Powered milk smuggling rings? An interesting concept for international crime.

    Maybe the inspiration for the next James Bond movie: Milkfinger. Or Live and Let Drink? Milkraker? OK, I'll stop now... icon_redface.gif

    LOL
    They don't need to pay the tax when they bring it out, but the company need to pay tax if sell oversea. Is it count to smuggling rings?

    You may be more accurately describing blackmarket operations. Smuggling usually means to bring things into or out of a country illegally, evading customs controls, but the 2 crimes can be combined.
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    Jan 30, 2013 3:36 PM GMT
    In other news, Milk is now being listed as a commodity and will be priced and regulated by the government.
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    Jan 30, 2013 3:50 PM GMT
    JR_Lore saidIn other news, Milk is now being listed as a commodity and will be priced and regulated by the government.

    Whose government? Most US States have already regulated milk prices for many years, making it illegal, among other things, to sell it below the set price. It's done as a price support for dairy farmers, who have successfully lobbied that an open market is unfavorable to the way the dairy industry operates.
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    Jan 30, 2013 5:53 PM GMT
    The story is, what, five or ten years old? The problem was that powdered milk buyers (and buyers of other foodstuffs) were requiring a protein analysis as part of the specification. Some shady characters determined that they could fool the analysis by adding melamine to sub-standard or diluted products. Then they started adding more and more melamine instead of protein, until some end products were very toxic.

    After baby formula, the next big hit was pet foods. I'm sort of surprised that bodybuilders haven't started dropping dead, considering how much of that sort of thing they consume. Possibly the effects are much more noticeable in infants and small animals.
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    Jan 30, 2013 11:40 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidThe story is, what, five or ten years old? The problem was that powdered milk buyers (and buyers of other foodstuffs) were requiring a protein analysis as part of the specification. Some shady characters determined that they could fool the analysis by adding melamine to sub-standard or diluted products. Then they started adding more and more melamine instead of protein, until some end products were very toxic.

    After baby formula, the next big hit was pet foods. I'm sort of surprised that bodybuilders haven't started dropping dead, considering how much of that sort of thing they consume. Possibly the effects are much more noticeable in infants and small animals.

    Yea, I am sure the news started at 2004 because I listened the radio program at 2004 to talk about this. Another thing I am sure they use a lot of impurity more than the melamine. It is because the first case of powdered milk is different, most of the baby's head were bigger and bigger after they drunk the toxic milk. But the melamine just hurted the kidney.