Like Straight Couples, Romantic Platonic Gifts You'd Either Want to Give or Get (Indicate Blue/Red State and Gay Marriage State or Not)

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    Jan 31, 2013 4:02 AM GMT
    Gifts between male friends who are nurturing a commitment, say, something you or he would want to get in the presence of parents, siblings, and relatives who recognize the two of you are each other's source of affection and support


    A piece of jewelry
    Bracelet, ring, watch, necklace


    A Shirt for work, Friday night, or Sunday religious obligations

    A Shirt for exercise

    A belt


    A Sports DVD

    A Cultural DVD

    A Car


    A Back Rub Massage Gift Certificate

    A Bookstore Chain or Independent Bookstore Gift Certificate

    A Photo Shoot at a Department Store of the Two of You

    Tickets to a Sporting Event

    Tickets to a Cultural Event

    A Date at a Romantic Village Cafe for Dessert

    An outing at a theme park, miniature golf, driving range


    Two new plates from the fine china department


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    Jan 31, 2013 4:04 AM GMT
    I'm in Texas, a red state, where there isn't gay marriage but I lived 26-1/2 years in New York, a blue state, where there is gay marriage, now icon_rolleyes.gif
  • seafrontbloke

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    Jan 31, 2013 11:21 AM GMT
    I live in the UK. The red/blue divide isn't really relevant here. We have civil partnerships and a bill to enact equal marriage is going through parliament.

    I'm in a civil partnership, I give all sorts to my husband. Mostly it relates to what he needs, but I do give flowers. I pay restaurant bills, buy opera tickets, but I think it's more about sharing time.

    I'd like to share my gym with him because it might help us both. But he commutes 2hrs each way so time is pretty precious.
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    Jan 31, 2013 2:28 PM GMT
    Ahhhhh, thank you.

    My list was long and you still found a standard gift between two people who love each other. I'm glad I didn't remember flowers.

    Maybe we'll see gift exchanging more on television (advertising and programming).

    A gift can be an icon and token of loving cooperation. That a man would declare loving cooperation nurtures Life and puts competition where it belongs.

    You know, you say there isn't gay marriage yet where you live. In New Jersey, a few years back, those in civil unions had to fight UPS for not recognizing the rights of those in those unions. Then they had to fight banks and other institutions who had modified paper and electronic forms to show both spouse and civil union partners. In the former, UPS and probably others not extending health benefits to those in civil unions, we have failure to recognize the law; and, in the latter, we have administration failing to facilitate the law. Do people in civil unions where you are run into these problems?

    During the US presidential elections, before, and now, I prefer civil unions and other forms of civic and religious partnership recognition. But, when corporate lawyers keep people from their benefits, there is a case for "just call it marriage, since you want to be so difficult."

    What's your experience with this?
  • seafrontbloke

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    Jan 31, 2013 3:16 PM GMT
    Hi Stephen

    We have had Civil Partnerships here since 2001. The legislation is just going through parliament to add both secular and religious marriage (currently a church can't marry someone even if they think it's right).

    The three biggest groups against this are the Catholic Church, the Church of England (which is a state denomination, but in communion with the Episcopal Church in America) and the right wing of the Conservative Party.

    The more they shout about it the more out of touch and frankly, nasty, they look.

    Society, however, is pretty much (as far as I can see) not bothered. People who have civil partnerships are called husbands and wives and married in conversation. From my point of view, when it's put through (the legislation) we will get an upgrade. (oh, and in the UK, it's illegal to discriminate on sexuality or between a CP and a marriage in employment)
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    Jan 31, 2013 3:23 PM GMT
    In addition to your list I've given these, in Red States with no legal relationship possible:

    - a bicycle
    - vacation trip
    - framed photograph of us together
    - framed photograph of his prized classic car
    - a photo album of us on a trip
    - souvenirs of our trip
    - matching baseball caps
    - DVDs of his favorite movies
    - a game for his computer
    - a camping trip
    - took his PARENTS to dinner, but he got to come along, too - LOL!

    There'd be lots more gifts, and of course not including when I've had a partner, but for most of my dating the guy was either closeted to his family, or he had no family nearby I ever met. So those wouldn't meet your specific criteria of gifts given while nurturing a commitment in the presence of his family.
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    Feb 01, 2013 11:26 PM GMT
    Let's add Hallmark Cards: Birthday, Valentines, Thanksgiving, Christmas (or other), and New Year's, Get Well Soon.

    We have to say, "I'm going to the card store to get a card for my boyfriend to family, relatives, coworkers."