Socks, Trolls, and Jumping to conclusions

  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Feb 01, 2013 1:02 PM GMT
    I have to say it .... jumping on people who are posting for the first time of being a sock, accusing people of scams, and worse has become an ugly sport on the forums.

    I am suggesting some civility and if you want to question something, consider doing it in an e-mail first before posting on the forums.

    None of us are perfect (especially me, I would like to take back some cold posts) and I understand how frustrating it is suffering all the socks and trolls; however I just saw today that someone jumped on someone posting about the death of RJ member and accused them of scamming.... REALLY!.

    I understand the motivation and even appreciate wanting to protect people from scams.... but the accuser was quickly proven wrong and it was just cold in light of the situation.

    Again .... a little civility please. - JP
  • Fable

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    Feb 01, 2013 1:03 PM GMT
    yeah paul seriously.


    Edit: On topic - I see what you mean, There was a time on rj when someone's first post didnt get the obligatory "sock" "troll" flame. Seriously not everyone is.
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    Feb 01, 2013 1:04 PM GMT
    Show me where I was proven wrong. I don't see it.
  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Feb 01, 2013 1:09 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidShow me where I was proven wrong. I don't see it.


    It was not my intention to make this about you.... sorry I mentioned the specifics and were called out. I wanted to make this about the bigger issue not the single issue.
  • Fable

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    Feb 01, 2013 1:10 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidShow me where I was proven wrong. I don't see it.


    the obit link
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    Feb 01, 2013 1:37 PM GMT
    Whether true or not, I think Paul was absolutely erring on the side of safe when questioning it. This is the internet...who knows what is for real and what isn't? Some kind of verification seemed in order if you are letting people know someone has passed.

    On that incident specifically. Not speaking towards the rest of the issue, I have no answers/solutions/etc.
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 01, 2013 2:16 PM GMT
    Some of us are real. Some of us are socks. None of us can escape death, (except maaaybe for archon, because if the scriptures are real than any and all magic is possible)...

    I've come to realize that RJ is what you make of it, and you can't tell others what to post. Sorry, OP, police yourself, but don't police me.
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    Feb 01, 2013 2:35 PM GMT
    I'm with C-Ghost on that last case.

    I thought paul was maybe being a little hard on the Beav, but I understood completely where he was coming from.

    (EDIT: was the thread deleted? If so, maybe for good reason?)
    (EDITx2: Found it, but won't repost it, so the fussing can stay in here)

    The biggest, most unshakeable news story in America going on right now involved a nation of heartstring-tugged people sending out white roses and making donations to charities on behalf of a "dead" woman who never existed.

    In the situation this OP mentioned, IIRC it was someone else (other than the OP of that thread?) who did the homework and posted the obit, but it would have helped if that OP had at least quickly responded.

    With insufficient information providing validity to that OP's intent, I think the instinctive reaction to be skeptical is a natural one. We can be kinder in expressing that skepticism, perhaps, and maybe that's where we can do better in certain cases.

    In electronic forums where people will eventually pass on, perhaps the best protocol is for those of us who know of someone recently deceased to share the information directly with the Admin, and allow the Admin to determine whether, and how best, to share the info with forum users.

    I don't mind the GTFOH reactions to "newcomers" when the first thing they think of to post (under new or replacement accounts) is something incendiary or divisive or hyperbolic. The defensiveness and mud-slinging with which many deal with responses usually reveals all we need to know.

    We're not paid therapists, either, so people coming forward with overwrought sob stories as their introduction to RJ are getting exactly what they pay for.
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    Feb 01, 2013 2:57 PM GMT
    I think the Op takes Internet "communication" too seriously or more specifically the Op assumes that it is an extension of genuine human social intercourse. It's oblivious unique in that it can be both but statiscally it is more scam than not and the predatory aspect of the net is far more aggressive than non tech types realize.
  • danisnotstr8

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    Feb 01, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    Alpha13 said It's oblivious unique in that it can be both but statiscally it is more scam than not and the predatory aspect of the net is far more aggressive than non tech types realize.

    Insofar as I can wade my way through this pool of gibberish, this is a load of hooey.

    And what the hell does "oblivious unique" mean? It sounds like a skin-care product.


    Aristoshark wins. LMAO!
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    Feb 01, 2013 3:21 PM GMT
    ^^"obviously unique."

    Clinique.jpg

    and the "it" was "Internet communication" being scam more likely than not.
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    Feb 01, 2013 3:32 PM GMT
    Well, what do we typically do with single socks...
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 01, 2013 3:33 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidI think the Op takes Internet "communication" too seriously or more specifically the Op assumes that it is an extension of genuine human social intercourse. It's oblivious unique in that it can be both but statiscally it is more scam than not and the predatory aspect of the net is far more aggressive than non tech types realize.


    The written word has been a genuine form of social intercourse for all of written history. Why do you think it's said that the pen is mightier than the sword?

    The internet is a venue for the written word. If anything it makes the "pen" mightier than ever.
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    Feb 01, 2013 3:34 PM GMT
    eagermuscle saidWell, what do we typically do with single socks...


    Stick them in a drawer and fruitlessly wait for years for a mate to magically appear? icon_confused.gif
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    Feb 01, 2013 3:38 PM GMT
    showme saidStick them in a drawer and fruitlessly wait for years for a mate to magically appear? icon_confused.gif
    Really? I make puppets and have a party!!!! icon_cool.gif
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    Feb 01, 2013 3:39 PM GMT
    RadRTT said
    showme saidStick them in a drawer and fruitlessly wait for years for a mate to magically appear? icon_confused.gif
    Really? I make puppets and have a party!!!! icon_cool.gif


    Lol, sock puppet party. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 01, 2013 3:41 PM GMT
    showme saidLol, sock puppet party. icon_biggrin.gif
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUra0q_ns8tPlBNTgE6yy These are my best friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Fable

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    Feb 01, 2013 3:41 PM GMT
    honestly though.... anyone over 30 shouln't really be using the internet.


    geriatrics
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    Feb 01, 2013 3:42 PM GMT
    fable saidhonestly though.... anyone over 30 shouln't really be using the internet.


    geriatrics


    Nice troll. Good troll, good boy. Now heel!
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    Feb 01, 2013 3:45 PM GMT
    showme said
    eagermuscle saidWell, what do we typically do with single socks...


    Stick them in a drawer and fruitlessly wait for years for a mate to magically appear? icon_confused.gif

    Well, mating is somewhat involved in a roundabout way.
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 01, 2013 3:47 PM GMT
    showme said
    fable saidhonestly though.... anyone over 30 shouln't really be using the internet.


    geriatrics


    Nice troll. Good troll, good boy. Now heel!


    He's just arrogant and ignorant.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Feb 01, 2013 5:11 PM GMT
    Everyone on this thread is a troll, a sock, and scammer if you ask me.
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    Feb 01, 2013 5:13 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidEveryone on this thread is a troll, a sock, and scammer if you ask me.


    You're on this thread. icon_eek.gif
  • TroyAthlete

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    Feb 01, 2013 5:15 PM GMT
    showme said
    TroyAthlete saidEveryone on this thread is a troll, a sock, and scammer if you ask me.


    You're on this thread. icon_eek.gif


    Dammit!

    You win this round...

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    Feb 01, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    showme said
    TroyAthlete saidEveryone on this thread is a troll, a sock, and scammer if you ask me.


    You're on this thread. icon_eek.gif


    Dammit!

    You win this round...

    tumblr_lnndpvIVSl1qzqfao.gif


    Now THAT'S what I call Doing It Wrong! icon_razz.gif