Beginner advice

  • Onemoresummer

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    Feb 04, 2013 11:12 AM GMT
    Ok. So I'm 24 and if I want a great body it's now or never.

    My weight training consists of lifting 10kg dumbells and doing 5 sets of 10 before my arms get too sore.
    I can barely do 10 push ups.

    I've got like no chest or pec definitio

    I'm way too intimidated to go to a gym so I'm looking at getting a personal trainer.

    What are my options?

    I want a body like this:

    Nick_Bracks_UnderBracks_01.jpg
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    Feb 04, 2013 11:25 AM GMT
    Is trying to convinve you to go to a gym completely out of the question? I only ask because I once was terrified to go to the gym so I don't want to give you pressure to go, if that's not what you want.

    But at the same time, that's going to give you the best results at the fastest speed.
  • Onemoresummer

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    Feb 04, 2013 11:47 AM GMT
    I wouldn't know where to start. And not sure I could deal with the laughs from the already tanked guys. It's rather intimidating thinking about it.
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    Feb 04, 2013 11:55 AM GMT
    is there a nearby uni that has weight training classes?
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    Feb 04, 2013 11:58 AM GMT
    Onemoresummer saidI wouldn't know where to start. And not sure I could deal with the laughs from the already tanked guys. It's rather intimidating thinking about it.



    How bout signing up at a gym and start with a few sessions with a PT so s/he can help you getting started?


    ...and what makes you think the bigger guys are gonna laugh at you? They all started somewhere too so i doubt they will be mean in any way, that's all in your head man.
    If anything, they might help you if you ask them nicely.

    Good luck!
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    Feb 04, 2013 1:05 PM GMT
    Onemoresummer saidI wouldn't know where to start. And not sure I could deal with the laughs from the already tanked guys. It's rather intimidating thinking about it.


    I thought you might say something like this...

    When you are in the gym, just remember that every single person in the gym has NO IDEA what you've read, what you've studied, what you've eaten, etc. No one in there has any idea what "ROUTINE" you're following. AND you don't have any idea what routine they are following.

    Some days I go to the gym and I lift really light weights, because I am tired and I don't feel like pushing myself that day. Any guy in the gym could laugh at me and think I am weak or pathetic, but I juts remind myself that NO ONE knows my goals, and my desires that exist in my head. Everyone starts somewhere, and no one is born all muscled up.

    I've been in the gym now for some time, and when I am lifting really heavy, I often see guys next to me who are just starting out. I'm pretty intense when I lift. I probably look like I don't want to be bothered by anyone, and after a set of squats I am exhausted and throw my lifting belt, etc. But whenever I see a guy who looks like a Newbie, the only thing I want to say to him is "keep it up! You can do it." Of course, I never do that... for fear he would think that I am totally creepy.

    Plus, any guy that wants to laugh at you for trying to better yourself isn't worth your time anyway. You've got to do you!

    But I get it man, I was terrified when I first started going to the gym. Literally couldn't walk inside.
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    Feb 04, 2013 1:09 PM GMT
    Onemoresummer saidI wouldn't know where to start. And not sure I could deal with the laughs from the already tanked guys. It's rather intimidating thinking about it.


    Hey! I saw this, and I wanted to give you a few words of encouragement.

    First, trust me, those guys are way too into their workout to be concerned about you. Now, that's not a snippy comment--it's just a reality check. Don't let your own insecurities keep you from going to the gym! Besides, no one came out of the womb buff--they had to start from somewhere too.

    Next, don't be embarrassed!! You should lift the proper weight that is right for you! Light weights are perfect for working on form, so don't be embarrassed by that! The gym isn't supposed to be a place of competition...it's a place of growth! So get in there and grow--develop your body into the physique you want!

    Lastly, just start with the basics! There's plenty of research out there for you to put together your own routine and start working out! I would try it out on your own or with a friend BEFORE hiring a personal trainer. Get comfortable with the weights and with being in the gym first. Make some progress on your own. And when you start to plateau, that's when you should bring in a personal trainer!

    Anyways, get in there and go after what you want! Good luck!!
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    Feb 04, 2013 1:11 PM GMT
    just start with pushups (3 sets a day, as many as you can do, try and add 3-5 extra a day). Stop all simple sugar foods e.g. processed, coke, chocolate (once a week max), donuts, soft drinks, anything with artificial sugars in it.

    Diet, Diet, Diet (80% Training 20%). Aim to get your bodyfat under 10%

    Simple but disciplined

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  • MadeinMich

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    Feb 04, 2013 1:18 PM GMT
    @ Marvel, Always swoops in with the encouraging advice. He's my Superhero.LOL
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Feb 04, 2013 4:49 PM GMT
    Congratulations on taking the first steps to changing your life and owning the body that you have, and building it the best way possible. As a personal trainer I want to tell you something that I tell every client who comes in the door and sits down with me:
    We are building an ideal you not building you into an ideal of something that you see someplace else. We're building a reflection of your spirit. We're building a vessel to contain something that is already beautiful, already extraordinary and making sure that that vessel reflects the truth. We're going to be working to make your body functional and healthy and to reach the goals that you are capable of reaching - one day at a time. Because outcome is relative to desire, you will attain what you want if you're willing to put in the work and the discipline. Compare yourself to no one but yourself, and if you're ever in doubt of progress you need only look at the person you were yesterday for proof that you are improving every day. In fact, you need only look at the person you were at the start of each workout to see how you are succeeding.
    My job as your trainer is to be by your side to make sure that you push to your limits, that you do that safely, that you do it with courage and 100% of the effort of which you're capable, and that you celebrate old goals reached by setting bigger goals for the future.

    This is YOUR journey, in your body. Nobody else is doing the work. you are doing this for you not them, so don't give them another thought.

    Hiring a trainer is a great way to stay focused and keep on point. Make sure your trainer is as committed to you as you are to yourself, and if you have any questions, feel free to message me.

    Keep us posted. I can't wait to see what you build!


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    Feb 04, 2013 8:43 PM GMT
    Nobody appears to have mentioned a useful step that is cheaper and possibly more available than gyms and trainers. That is following a balanced program, designed by a trainer, that you can get for free. They are available in magazines and on the web, in fact, up at the top of this very page.

    It makes a huge difference from just messing around with a new set of weights.
  • MidwesternKid

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    Feb 04, 2013 9:07 PM GMT
    I would invest in some adjustable weights and resistance bands and find a workout that you can do with those resources and do from home if you want to avoid the gym.

    Realize results wont happen over night, you will have to work at it for a while. Also be ready to accept that you wont look exactly like the guys you lust after. Find the results that you can create by working hard for and learn to love your body for what you make it.
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    Feb 04, 2013 9:08 PM GMT
    MuscleComeBack saidCongratulations on taking the first steps to changing your life and owning the body that you have, and building it the best way possible. As a personal trainer I want to tell you something that I tell every client who comes in the door and sits down with me:
    We are building an ideal you not building you into an ideal of something that you see someplace else. We're building a reflection of your spirit. We're building a vessel to contain something that is already beautiful, already extraordinary and making sure that that vessel reflects the truth. We're going to be working to make your body functional and healthy and to reach the goals that you are capable of reaching - one day at a time. Because outcome is relative to desire, you will attain what you want if you're willing to put in the work and the discipline. Compare yourself to no one but yourself, and if you're ever in doubt of progress you need only look at the person you were yesterday for proof that you are improving every day. In fact, you need only look at the person you were at the start of each workout to see how you are succeeding.
    My job as your trainer is to be by your side to make sure that you push to your limits, that you do that safely, that you do it with courage and 100% of the effort of which you're capable, and that you celebrate old goals reached by setting bigger goals for the future.

    This is YOUR journey, in your body. Nobody else is doing the work. you are doing this for you not them, so don't give them another thought.

    Hiring a trainer is a great way to stay focused and keep on point. Make sure your trainer is as committed to you as you are to yourself, and if you have any questions, feel free to message me.

    Keep us posted. I can't wait to see what you build!




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    Yes. My first thought when I saw the image you posted was all that info. Having something like that to motivate you is like Frosted Flakes....Grrreat! (bahaha, sorry) I have lots of motivational pictures. Nothing wrong with the eye candy. But truth is...you will never be that guy in the picture - and that's also great! It totally is YOUR journey, as MCB said. If you set goals starting from the inside...you will eventually see results on the outside. Like asking yourself how you feel, or pushing for a little more distance, etc.

    Also +1 to mindgarden. I'm currently working on the strength foundation plan by realjock. I make some modifications and what not...but it's very "keep it simple stupid." Not many complications for the beginner.

    I also agree with advice about dealing with feelings of intimidation. However, if you really don't want to feel watched: find a smaller gym and go at the times nobody else goes. There are some times at the gym where it's me lifting some weights, a high school girl doing abs and a 90 year old man on the bike, an employee...and that's it. But god forbid I go during a zumba class. Woof. Lots of people around. So experiment with that.
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    Feb 04, 2013 9:14 PM GMT
    Onemoresummer saidI wouldn't know where to start. And not sure I could deal with the laughs from the already tanked guys. It's rather intimidating thinking about it.


    laughs??? man... don't be a fool. Nobody's gonna laugh at you. Most probably ppl won't even notice you, they're on their own. You'll always find a friendly person around.
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    Feb 04, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
    joevbanana said
    Onemoresummer saidI wouldn't know where to start. And not sure I could deal with the laughs from the already tanked guys. It's rather intimidating thinking about it.


    laughs??? man... don't be a fool. Nobody's gonna laugh at you. Most probably ppl won't even notice you, they're on their own. You'll always find a friendly person around.


    This is true, they won't laugh, actually you will probably get a chuckle from some of the ridiculously bad form that guys who are "built" have. Form is everything, it doesn't matter how much you lift at all. Take it easy on yourself. In no time you will be amazed at how different you look and how much stronger you are!
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    Feb 04, 2013 9:29 PM GMT
    I'm a beginner myself, so i'll just give my advice as a beginner.

    I'm trying my best to work out, but I can't afford a gym. All I've done is some at home exercises to try to build muscle. If you don't want to go to a gym just yet, try doing some at home exercises to build yourself a good foundation for when you do start going to the gym, that way you're not as self-conscious.

    Try going to youtube and see if you can find some good videos to start with. I've found plenty of good exercises just to get me started.

    As for your arms and chest, I think you should try this routine. I followed it loosly and have started to see some slight gains.



  • Destinharbor

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    Feb 04, 2013 9:32 PM GMT
    I agree with what most are saying here. My experience is that pretty much everyone at the gym takes the attitude that if you're there and doing the work, then good for you. There are always newbies in the gym and if you're being serious, you're respected. I use two gyms and both have a couple of guys that came in looking pretty scrawny and are now shaping up. I admire them. And for me, I didn't start doing weights until I was in my early 50's so I'm also one of the oldest guys in the gym. Just do it, man. Oh, and find a gym with serious body builders, not housewives chatting. I know you think that will be worse but these guys really into it and if you show them you are, too, they'll be friendly. Don't you know guys at all? We help each other.

    But if you won't, buy an incline/decline bench and a pair of 15lb, 25lb, and 35lb dumbbells. Start doing chest presses, flys, skull crushers and standing curls. If you don't know what these are, go to bodybuilding.com. Add pushups and if you can find a bar or buy one of those doorway things, pullups and chinups. Figure out a circuit that leaves you sore and do that four times a week. You should need to move up in weights pretty quickly as you gain tone.
  • Jon50

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    Feb 04, 2013 9:49 PM GMT
    Onemoresummer saidOk. So I'm 24 and if I want a great body it's now or never.

    My weight training consists of lifting 10kg dumbells and doing 5 sets of 10 before my arms get too sore.
    I can barely do 10 push ups.

    I've got like no chest or pec definitio

    I'm way too intimidated to go to a gym so I'm looking at getting a personal trainer.

    What are my options?

    I want a body like this:

    Nick_Bracks_UnderBracks_01.jpg


    Hi, here's my two cents worth: Go the personal trainer route. They're the experts and they'll keep you on track at all times. If they don't, it's time to get a new personal trainer.

    I couldn't do 2 proper push-ups a year ago, and now I'm doing three sets of 12. Not bad for a guy over 50, eh?

    I feel great, thanks to my PT. I think you will too! All the best! icon_smile.gif

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    Feb 04, 2013 10:17 PM GMT
    Well, be cautious about selecting a "trainer." Years ago, I joined a gym and paid a "trainer fee," for the on-duty trainer in the weight room. Basically all they did was hand you a clipboard with a list of machines on it and show you around the machines one time. Everybody got the same program, whether you were a 70 year old woman or a 19 year old boy. Total rip-off.
  • Destinharbor

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    Feb 04, 2013 10:44 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidWell, be cautious about selecting a "trainer." Years ago, I joined a gym and paid a "trainer fee," for the on-duty trainer in the weight room. Basically all they did was hand you a clipboard with a list of machines on it and show you around the machines one time. Everybody got the same program, whether you were a 70 year old woman or a 19 year old boy. Total rip-off.

    Ya, I agree. I think trainers are much more useful after you've learned your way around the gym somewhat. And they are usually very expensive.
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    Feb 04, 2013 11:12 PM GMT
    when i first started...i did a maximun of 5 pushups per 3 min. hahah. And now...ok, i need o start again ...xD
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Feb 05, 2013 2:25 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidWell, be cautious about selecting a "trainer." Years ago, I joined a gym and paid a "trainer fee," for the on-duty trainer in the weight room. Basically all they did was hand you a clipboard with a list of machines on it and show you around the machines one time. Everybody got the same program, whether you were a 70 year old woman or a 19 year old boy. Total rip-off.


    That's not a trainer, that's a desk jockey on duty and a true trainer tailors the work to the client. I don't train any two people the same way. Even clients with closely matching goals and objectives. A good trainer is an investment and a partner and can teach a novice a great deal, and get them started confidently and properly from the outset. To imply that you can get the same thing from magazines is like saying you can cut out a picture of an Armani suit and wear it to work just fine as opposed to having it fit and tailored. A 'bargain' training approach yields a bargain body, and it wears out and tears and fits poorly pretty dang fast.
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    Feb 05, 2013 2:27 AM GMT
    MuscleComeBack said
    mindgarden saidWell, be cautious about selecting a "trainer." Years ago, I joined a gym and paid a "trainer fee," for the on-duty trainer in the weight room. Basically all they did was hand you a clipboard with a list of machines on it and show you around the machines one time. Everybody got the same program, whether you were a 70 year old woman or a 19 year old boy. Total rip-off.


    That's not a trainer, that's a desk jockey on duty and a true trainer tailors the work to the client. I don't train any two people the same way. Even clients with closely matching goals and objectives. A good trainer is an investment and a partner and can teach a novice a great deal, and get them started confidently and properly from the outset. To imply that you can get the same thing from magazines is like saying you can cut out a picture of an Armani suit and wear it to work just fine as opposed to having it fit and tailored. A 'bargain' training approach yields a bargain body, and it wears out and tears and fits poorly pretty dang fast.


    Not everyone has that kind of money to spend. And that's also exactly the same spiel the "desk jockeys" use.
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    Feb 05, 2013 2:27 AM GMT
    Read this: http://scoobysworkshop.com/

    Pretty much has all the information you need and can get you started. It's also geared towards more of a home workout type. Maybe after starting you'll gain more confidence to be able to work out at a gym (though honestly most people at a gym are focusing on themselves and not other people).

    Also keep in mind deciding to workout is more of a life style choice and dedication than 3 months to look like X kind of thing.

  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Feb 05, 2013 2:36 AM GMT
    mindgarden said
    MuscleComeBack said
    mindgarden saidWell, be cautious about selecting a "trainer." Years ago, I joined a gym and paid a "trainer fee," for the on-duty trainer in the weight room. Basically all they did was hand you a clipboard with a list of machines on it and show you around the machines one time. Everybody got the same program, whether you were a 70 year old woman or a 19 year old boy. Total rip-off.


    That's not a trainer, that's a desk jockey on duty and a true trainer tailors the work to the client. I don't train any two people the same way. Even clients with closely matching goals and objectives. A good trainer is an investment and a partner and can teach a novice a great deal, and get them started confidently and properly from the outset. To imply that you can get the same thing from magazines is like saying you can cut out a picture of an Armani suit and wear it to work just fine as opposed to having it fit and tailored. A 'bargain' training approach yields a bargain body, and it wears out and tears and fits poorly pretty dang fast.


    Not everyone has that kind of money to spend. And that's also exactly the same spiel the "desk jockeys" use.


    There are excellent, capable, dedicated early career trainers in almost every city. The cost does not have to be prohibitive if you do the research and take the time. And ultimately, the investment has infinitely greater return than working out on your own. I've set my own fees substantially lower for ambitious young clients on limited budgets, trained people on a 'per session' basis, and never once lost a single client because they couldn't afford it. (Actually only lost clients who relocated out of town, not any other reason.)