Democrats move to change federal pot laws

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    Feb 05, 2013 3:20 PM GMT
    It's damn well about time. The states that vote to legalize or at the very least decriminalize it and then end up in huge conflict with the DEA .... that's got to change. The asinine drug laws at the federal level need to change ... at least for pot.

    http://www.salon.com/2013/02/04/dems_move_to_change_federal_pot_laws/
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    Feb 05, 2013 3:58 PM GMT
    That's awesome!! I'm actually surprised it's being taken up by democrats and not republicans. It seems like the perfect issue for republicans to go on, to expand their base, because it equates to smaller government and more individual liberty. The two sides seem to have their ideologies mixed up here, lol.
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    HottJoe saidThat's awesome!! I'm actually surprised it's being taken up by democrats and not republicans. It seems like the perfect issue for republicans to go on, to expand their base, because it equates to smaller government and more individual liberty. The two sides seem to have their ideologies mixed up here, lol.

    They've been mixed up for a long time. Republicans call for smaller government, but their model of enforced social conservatism actually results in more policing and monitoring of citizens, at the cost of more government agencies to watch and make us conform. Republicans are all about conformity, and enforcing that requires more governmental apparatus.

    Democrats want more personal freedom, and less policing, more individual laissez faire, if you will. Except when it comes to corporate entities that might hurt people, with their unprincipled and unbridled greed.

    But that's when Republicans cleverly turn the tables, and say keeping a tight rein on corporations is an assault on personal freedoms. I'll agree with that, when you can show me a corporation more interested in my own health & welfare, and that of its workers, than in the profits of its board and shareholders.
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    Feb 05, 2013 4:17 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    HottJoe saidThat's awesome!! I'm actually surprised it's being taken up by democrats and not republicans. It seems like the perfect issue for republicans to go on, to expand their base, because it equates to smaller government and more individual liberty. The two sides seem to have their ideologies mixed up here, lol.

    They've been mixed up for a long time. Republicans call for smaller government, but their model of enforced social conservatism actually results in more policing and monitoring of citizens, at the cost of more government agencies to watch and make us conform. Republicans are all about conformity, and enforcing that requires more governmental apparatus.

    Democrats want more personal freedom, and less policing, more individual laissez faire, if you will. Except when it comes to corporate entities that might hurt people, with their unprincipled and unbridled greed.

    But that's when Republicans cleverly turn the tables, and say keeping a tight rein on corporations is an assault on personal freedoms. I'll agree with that, when you can show me a corporation more interested in my own health & welfare, and that of its workers, than in the profits of its board and shareholders.


    One side is just as bad as the other. I could post, and have, some really heinous examples of some of the crap the EPA has pulled at the individual level and absolutely ruined lives.

    And I still bet ya that we smoke more pot at CPAC than you do at DLC.
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    HottJoe saidThat's awesome!! I'm actually surprised it's being taken up by democrats and not republicans. It seems like the perfect issue for republicans to go on, to expand their base, because it equates to smaller government and more individual liberty. The two sides seem to have their ideologies mixed up here, lol.


    And don't believe for a second that there aren't a bunch of us 'grass' roots Republicans (sorry, I couldn't help it) who think this way.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 05, 2013 8:13 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    ART_DECO said
    HottJoe saidThat's awesome!! I'm actually surprised it's being taken up by democrats and not republicans. It seems like the perfect issue for republicans to go on, to expand their base, because it equates to smaller government and more individual liberty. The two sides seem to have their ideologies mixed up here, lol.

    They've been mixed up for a long time. Republicans call for smaller government, but their model of enforced social conservatism actually results in more policing and monitoring of citizens, at the cost of more government agencies to watch and make us conform. Republicans are all about conformity, and enforcing that requires more governmental apparatus.

    Democrats want more personal freedom, and less policing, more individual laissez faire, if you will. Except when it comes to corporate entities that might hurt people, with their unprincipled and unbridled greed.

    But that's when Republicans cleverly turn the tables, and say keeping a tight rein on corporations is an assault on personal freedoms. I'll agree with that, when you can show me a corporation more interested in my own health & welfare, and that of its workers, than in the profits of its board and shareholders.


    One side is just as bad as the other. I could post, and have, some really heinous examples of some of the crap the EPA has pulled at the individual level and absolutely ruined lives.

    And I still bet ya that we smoke more pot at CPAC than you do at DLC.
    I agree 100%. This is why I would love to see the end of the political duopoly that has run this great country into the sewer. Both democrats and republicans are only out for their own self aggrandizement. They could care less about the American people. Both parties are responsible for the erosion of individual liberties.
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    Feb 05, 2013 8:17 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    freedomisntfree said
    ART_DECO said
    HottJoe saidThat's awesome!! I'm actually surprised it's being taken up by democrats and not republicans. It seems like the perfect issue for republicans to go on, to expand their base, because it equates to smaller government and more individual liberty. The two sides seem to have their ideologies mixed up here, lol.

    They've been mixed up for a long time. Republicans call for smaller government, but their model of enforced social conservatism actually results in more policing and monitoring of citizens, at the cost of more government agencies to watch and make us conform. Republicans are all about conformity, and enforcing that requires more governmental apparatus.

    Democrats want more personal freedom, and less policing, more individual laissez faire, if you will. Except when it comes to corporate entities that might hurt people, with their unprincipled and unbridled greed.

    But that's when Republicans cleverly turn the tables, and say keeping a tight rein on corporations is an assault on personal freedoms. I'll agree with that, when you can show me a corporation more interested in my own health & welfare, and that of its workers, than in the profits of its board and shareholders.


    One side is just as bad as the other. I could post, and have, some really heinous examples of some of the crap the EPA has pulled at the individual level and absolutely ruined lives.

    And I still bet ya that we smoke more pot at CPAC than you do at DLC.
    I agree 100%. This is why I would love to see the end of the political duopoly that has run this great country into the sewer. Both democrats and republicans are only out for their own self aggrandizement. They could care less about the American people. Both parties are responsible for the erosion of individual liberties.


    on this we'll agree.
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    Feb 05, 2013 8:27 PM GMT
    Tax Revenue Stream!!!!!
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    Feb 05, 2013 8:30 PM GMT
    msuNtx saidTax Revenue Stream!!!!!
    Hey that could help both the states and the feds with their financial problems.icon_idea.gif