Bioetihcs: Dafuq, are they serious about thinking on cloning a Neaderthal?

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    Feb 05, 2013 6:51 PM GMT
    Haven't they seen Jurassic Park?

    http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/surrogate-mother-wanted-neanderthal-baby-130122.htm

    Call me old fashioned but I am against.

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    Feb 05, 2013 7:04 PM GMT
    Try engaging brain before opening mouth. It's a hoax started by some blogger. Obviously.

    "(Reuters) - After spending the weekend reading blog posts claiming that he was seeking an "extremely adventurous female human" to bear a cloned Neanderthal baby - which was news to him - Harvard geneticist George Church said it may be time for society to give some thought to scientific literacy."

    (He's so polite about it.)
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    Feb 05, 2013 7:14 PM GMT
    Cloning a woolly mammoth was a better idea. The Neanderthal would feel like a freak and be treated as an oddity their whole life. It would probably end in suicide.
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    Feb 06, 2013 4:24 AM GMT
    Stan24 saidCloning a woolly mammoth was a better idea. The Neanderthal would feel like a freak and be treated as an oddity their whole life. It would probably end in suicide.


    I don't think he would get depressed, did they have feelings?
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    Feb 06, 2013 4:41 AM GMT
    They're not trying to clone a Neanderthal...

    However, it would be interesting from a scientific standpoint to see the Neanderthal's capabilities (mental, physical, etc.). They do share 99.7% similarity in their genomes to humans, so it's pretty much along the same lines as 'is it ethical to clone a human?'. In any case, I doubt it will happen.


    I can almost say with 100% certainty that Neanderthal's had emotions... I hope you were just joking...
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    Feb 06, 2013 4:45 AM GMT
    Stan24 saidCloning a woolly mammoth was a better idea.


    I agree because nothing could possibly go wrong by bringing species from previous eras into the modern world...













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  • Zinc

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    Feb 06, 2013 4:49 AM GMT
    Lot's of neanderthal DNA in many of us already.
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    Feb 06, 2013 4:55 AM GMT
    Zinc saidLot's of neanderthal DNA in many of us already.


    But that doesn't make it right in my opinion. I mean, they're extinct for a reason.
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    Feb 09, 2013 3:18 AM GMT
    A_X91 said
    Zinc saidLot's of neanderthal DNA in many of us already.


    But that doesn't make it right in my opinion. I mean, they're extinct for a reason.


    They're extinct because they were inferior organisms. Hypothetically, cloning them would be extremely beneficial. We would be able to gather a lot of information regarding their capabilities, maturation, and be able to fill in missing information for such research projects going on such as the Human Origins Project, and the Human Genome Project.

    Neanderthals most certainly did have emotions, although not as comprehensive as present human emotion (all organisms classified in class mammalia do have feelings/emotions as a result of their highly developed cerebrum) - but that wouldn't and shouldn't stop geneticists from cloning a Neanderthal given the chance to as the benefits outweigh the possible negative impacts. We experiment on chimpanzees, and their DNA is ~99% identical to that of human DNA, so why not 'versions' of humans that have failed? Their failure may be the key to solving our potential failures.
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    Feb 10, 2013 2:36 AM GMT
    Cloning a neanderthal would be redundant.

    Do scientists not realize that rednecks already exist?
  • Whipmagic

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    Feb 10, 2013 2:44 AM GMT
    George Church likes to run his mouth a lot and be controversial at times. He has indeed jokingly mentioned the possibility of bringing back Neanderthals before, although the joke may have been lost on some. So I'm not surprised that someone played along and faked the search for a surrogate mother. From a practical point of view, this cannot be done yet, and it's so far outside of what would be considered ethical that no Institutional Review Board would ever approve such a thing. The wooly mammoth, however, is different. That's getting close enough where someone with a lot of resources and time could give it a try - and much fewer ethical questions involved. Oh, and if that works, can I have the first mammoth burger?
  • MidwesternKid

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    Feb 10, 2013 3:04 AM GMT
    Might just be trying to generate interest in their research or feel they can find something ground breaking by doing so.
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    Feb 10, 2013 3:33 AM GMT
    Why not just create a Centaur?

    He would be well hung.

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    Feb 10, 2013 3:36 AM GMT
    GAMRican saidWhy not just create a Centaur?

    He would be well hung.

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    Because there's no genetic blueprint for such a creature. For the wooly mammoth you have the DNA from remains in ice or tar pits, and you could try to use elephants to carry the baby.
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    Feb 10, 2013 3:42 AM GMT
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    GAMRican saidWhy not just create a Centaur?

    He would be well hung.

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    Because there's no genetic blueprint for such a creature. For the wooly mammoth you have the DNA from remains in ice or tar pits, and you could try to use elephants to carry the baby.


    We don't need no genetic blueprint! Just mix some horse sperm in with the human eggs and see what happens. Heck, we should just pay some researchers to fuck chimps, pigs, and other animals just to see if we can get some kind of hybrid going.

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    Feb 10, 2013 4:00 AM GMT
    ^^^ One of my new coworkers is from Washington state. i'll have to show him this. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 10, 2013 4:10 AM GMT
    paulflexes said^^^ One of my new coworkers is from Washington state. i'll have to show him this. icon_lol.gif


    Is he from Spokane? icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 10, 2013 8:38 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidCloning a neanderthal would be redundant.

    Do scientists not realize that rednecks already exist?


    I was gonna say ! Hell, I've been here for almost 60 years.
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    Feb 10, 2013 8:55 AM GMT
    Classic Frankenstein project. There are already so many Franken-seeds/ fish/ mammals. I wouldn't want to be in this clone's shoes.

    What if this clone turns out to be gay? or straight? there is enough racial preference among gays... This possible gay clone would be utterly shunned by all other gays.
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    Feb 10, 2013 9:03 AM GMT
    Nabisco said
    Stan24 saidCloning a woolly mammoth was a better idea.


    I agree because nothing could possibly go wrong by bringing species from previous eras into the modern world...













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