The Politics of Distraction, Hypocrisy and Blame

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    Oct 01, 2008 10:51 PM GMT
    "The Republicans fight dirty…they take every opportunity to shift the political conversation from substance to frivolity. They don’t want the public to see the huge differences between the two parties. Less than two weeks ago, John McCain mocked Senator Obama’s appearance at a Hollywood fundraiser.

    And where do you think John McCain was supposed to be tonight? On Monday it was announced that he himself was coming to Hollywood for a fundraiser charging up to $40,800 a plate. The hypocrisy...

    McCain accuses Senator Obama of being a “celebrity” (as if he himself is not one). It’s a bad word only if you’re a Democrat, of course. If you’re a Republican it helps you become... President Reagan, Governor Schwarzenegger, Senator Thompson.

    He also calls Senator Obama an “elitist.” How silly is that? Senator Obama is a self-made man from a working class family, while McCain came from a highly respected military family. Barack Obama owns one house and one car while John McCain owns seven houses and thirteen cars. Perhaps the elitism tag comes from the notion that Barack Obama is smart, eloquent and graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School, while John McCain graduated 894 out of 899 in his class at the US Naval Academy. Isn’t it about time America had a leader that started out as an ordinary man and became an extraordinary one?

    The Bush/McCain doctrine of deregulation has brought the nation to its knees. And now John McCain has failed to deliver the Republican votes needed to assist the Democrats’ efforts to keep the economy from crumbling. Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Senator McCain’s Economic advisor (now that Phil Graham has to phone in his advice from the back room) has taken on the role of McCain’s alibi-maker for his failure of leadership. The bill failed to pass in Congress because only 65 Republicans voted for it versus 140 Democrats. McCain was dining with Joe Lieberman when he should have been swinging GOP votes in a desperate last chance to save America from a financial disaster brought on by McCain’s, Graham’s and George Bush’s deregulatory orgy. But what does McCain do…he blames Obama.

    Nancy Pelosi told the painful truth about the Bush administration’s failures. President Bush inherited a surplus from the Clinton administration and squandered every penny of it…and more. Do people really want four more years of the same? I hope Americans don’t fall prey to the politics of distraction, hypocrisy and blame."

    B787

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    Oct 01, 2008 11:06 PM GMT
    All true, and thank you for a very eloquent post. But now we will hear from the Republican Zombies here, who will twist, turn & spin facts into fantasy.

    But I sense this is soon ending. Even for politically shallow Americans, enough is enough.

    I saw such horrible economic news tonight that no one can fail to get the message: Republicans have sold us out, and now comes the reckoning.

    If a single Republican withstands this coming election, I want to know who has betrayed the common good for their own narrow interests, who has put themselves before the people.
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    Oct 01, 2008 11:59 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidAll true, and thank you for a very eloquent post. But now we will hear from the Republican Zombies here, who will twist, turn & spin facts into fantasy.


    If a single Republican withstands this coming election, I want to know who has betrayed the common good for their own narrow interests, who has put themselves before the people.


    Yes and yes Red_Vespa

    http://washblade.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=21367

    Take a look at this article. McCain takes every single opportunity to say he is a "federalist" and that "gay issues" should be left to the states to decide. Basically he is saying that he tolerates discrimination and that the federal government (should he win, God forbid) will turn the blind eye.
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    Oct 02, 2008 1:57 AM GMT
    Nancy Pelosi is hardly someone to be looked up to for honest truth. For that matter few people in Washington are any different. Affiliation doesn't really matter. It's all about:

    1) Ensure the stability of your office
    2) Focus on re-election
    3) Ensure the stability of your office for re-election and/or the next replacement party candidate
    4) Please your generous and charitable financial backers
    5) Ensure the stability of your office.
    6) Laugh inside silently when someone mentions "serve the needs of your constituents"
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    Oct 02, 2008 5:47 AM GMT

    Actually, its all about cutting out a cancer of a government that

    will go down in history as "2000-2008: When America Went To The Dark Side."


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    Oct 05, 2008 11:18 PM GMT
    Obama isn't a self made man, he's a product of the Mayor Daily Chicago political campaign and Tony Rezko. Backed up with support from the Trinity United Church of Christ who preaches that HIV was created by white people to kill black people, and Bill Ayers the Weather underground terrorist who bombed the Pentagon first. The above malcontents elevated him to his current position. The man is dirty and his politics are dirty.

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    Oct 05, 2008 11:23 PM GMT
    John43620 saidObama isn't a self made man, he's a product of the Mayor Daily Chicago political campaign and Tony Rezko. Backed up with support from the Trinity United Church of Christ who preaches that HIV was created by white people to kill black people, and Bill Ayers the Weather underground terrorist who bombed the Pentagon first. The above malcontents elevated him to his current position. The man is dirty and his politics are dirty.



    So when McCain said he'd go negative (aka lie, smear, be a disgusting human being) all his supporters agreed to do the same?
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    Oct 05, 2008 11:24 PM GMT
    I try and avoid American political forum topics now since they are getting sort of repititive, but this one I must weigh in on. I have followed politics for nearly 40 years. One thing I have concluded, politicians are not saints, just the opposite. Show me a politician that does not demonstrate at least some of the qualities you mentioned and I will show you a politican that will never get elected. Sounds cynical I know but I call them as I see them.
  • shyguysport

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    Oct 06, 2008 8:29 AM GMT
    To John the McCain supporter. Do you really believe that rubbish you just
    wrote? I hope you don't as there are so many false statements(okay - let's just call them what they are). The Ayers thing is all about nothing. He lives in the same neighborhood as the Obama's. They sat on a non-profit together for a few years. They never dined in each other's home and barely know each other.

    Also, your Chicago politics sucks. The Daley administration has no affiliation
    for Ayers. Do you remember the '68 riots when Daley's dad had the Chicago cops manhandle the "protesters and malcontents - you know the Wm Ayers
    types.

    It saddens me that when it hits crunch time hits the you guys can't respond with you intelligence and better plans and/or policies. No, instead you folks resort to lies, distortions and smoke screens.

    John - try to have an original thought. I notice on these pages you just throw up the daily talking points from the RNC and the McCain. Think for yourself. I know you can do it!!!!!
  • GQjock

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    Oct 06, 2008 10:23 AM GMT
    Ah ... I love the smell of desperation in the Morning ......

    Grampy McSame is coming out swinging because he has nothing left

    He's being beaten in the polls and now's the time when people's votes becomes what's called cemented ... meaning that they will not change

    He's losing even in some states that have usually voted republican
    Why? Because some people ... unlike others Know Bullshit when they hear it
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    Oct 06, 2008 5:09 PM GMT
    Dear Mr. President....



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    Oct 06, 2008 5:13 PM GMT
    saw this on daily kos this morning. it made me laugh.

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    Oct 06, 2008 5:30 PM GMT
    Splendid ! Love that !!!

    how funny....and as the saying goes..." it's so funny cuz it's soooo TRUE ! "

    LOL
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    Oct 06, 2008 5:32 PM GMT
    Thanks! Those train analogies made me laugh, too, I shared them with my partner. Very clever, very true.
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    Oct 06, 2008 5:36 PM GMT
    [quote]Obama isn't a self made man, he's a product of the Mayor Daily Chicago political campaign and Tony Rezko. Backed up with support from the Trinity United Church of Christ who preaches that HIV was created by white people to kill black people, and Bill Ayers the Weather underground terrorist who bombed the Pentagon first. The above malcontents elevated him to his current position. The man is dirty and his politics are dirty.

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    Wow, is everyone in Toledo this freaking nuts?
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    Oct 06, 2008 5:45 PM GMT
    B787 said"The Republicans fight dirty…they take every opportunity to shift the political conversation from substance to frivolity.




    Gosh, and the democrats NEVER play this way. icon_rolleyes.gif

    As for the Bush/McCain doctrine on "deregulation", I suggest you do your research before engaging in "The Blame Game"


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASvqtD6g8PU

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    Oct 06, 2008 5:47 PM GMT
    metroPAULitan saidsaw this on daily kos this morning. it made me laugh.

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    Thats hilarious....icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 06, 2008 5:54 PM GMT
    John43620 saidObama isn't a self made man, he's a product of the Mayor Daily Chicago political campaign and Tony Rezko. Backed up with support from the Trinity United Church of Christ who preaches that HIV was created by white people to kill black people, and Bill Ayers the Weather underground terrorist who bombed the Pentagon first. The above malcontents elevated him to his current position. The man is dirty and his politics are dirty.



    Everyone knows that the only person with the power to elevate Obama is Oprah. The Mighty Oprah told him to look under his chair and what did he find? ...that Oprah made him a PRESIENTIAL NOMINEEEEEE! and probably PRESIDEEEEEENT!

    I know you're afraid to blasheme the name of the Big O, so you and your ilk hang on to insipid claims of associations that are weaker than most associations made via internet communitees.

    If it weren't for Oprah, he wouldn't be where he is. Fear the Power of Oprah! Respect the Power of Oprah!
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    Oct 06, 2008 6:38 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    B787 said"The Republicans fight dirty…they take every opportunity to shift the political conversation from substance to frivolity.




    Gosh, and the democrats NEVER play this way. icon_rolleyes.gif




    Everything I've seen so far in this presidential campaign shows the dirty stuff coming from the Repub side first.
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    Oct 06, 2008 7:10 PM GMT
    allgoodinhwood said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    B787 said"The Republicans fight dirty…they take every opportunity to shift the political conversation from substance to frivolity.




    Gosh, and the democrats NEVER play this way. icon_rolleyes.gif




    Everything I've seen so far in this presidential campaign shows the dirty stuff coming from the Repub side first.


    I've been blown away by the Sarah Palin attacks. That shit has shocked me. I've been blown away how some try to define one side as evil and the other pure. The childish vile things I have read on both free republic and democratic underground blows me away. Simply because it hasn't audibly come from the top does not mean the approach isn't quietly endorsed.

    Politics is ugly in general. No side is free from throwing a sucker punch. When you embrace one side you tend to only see the other as the bad guy.

    People will vote on a variety of reasons. One will be character. Thus the mudslinging.

    The real sad part is repairing the damage after the spectacle of both sides. the polarization is so set many walk away having lost friends and some times even privately ashamed of their behavior. The sick part is that the ones who got elected reap the spoils and suddenly "some" not all but some who laid so much passion down for those running realize they were nothing but a pawn for someone else's little game.

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    Oct 07, 2008 12:44 AM GMT
    I'm sure it is widely known that I prefer to post intriguing and and thought-provoking articles . . . and, I found another which is, to date, the finest article written so far during this political season.

    But, I can't post it because it is a bit long and I don't know how to insert a link - so, may I strongly recommend that you pick up the current issue of NEW YORKER magazine (or go to its website) and read why they endorse Senator Obama for President.

    It will truly make a difference.

    B787
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    Oct 07, 2008 1:18 AM GMT
    Read the NYorker piece last night. It's a great read:

    http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/10/13/081013taco_talk_editors
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    Oct 07, 2008 1:41 AM GMT
    Thanks for attaching the article, obscenewish. It's an excellent read.

    jsttennis, your comments were appreciated as well.

    I think I'm done posting to political forums. The New Yorker article said everything I possibly could about my choice -- and it expresses it in terms of hope and change -- which is what i think all of us want from this election, whichever side of the aisle you're on.



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    Oct 07, 2008 1:49 AM GMT
    obscenewish saidRead the NYorker piece last night. It's a great read:

    http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/10/13/081013taco_talk_editors


    Thank you for posting the link here.

    Now, everyone can read it.

    B787