McTesty....McC. gets testy in a panel interview

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    Oct 02, 2008 1:11 AM GMT
    Video: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#26982404

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    Oct 02, 2008 1:52 AM GMT
    McSame has a short temper and a superior attitude, which is notorious in the US Senate. The hotter the race becomes, the more the "real" McCain will slip out.
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    Oct 02, 2008 1:56 AM GMT
    It's actually sort of entertaining to watch the death throes of his campaign.

    Three new polls came out today, showing Obama leading in Florida, 51-43, Ohio 50-42, and Pennsylvania 54-39.

    Amazing.
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    Oct 02, 2008 2:01 AM GMT
    I'd like to see Senator McCain express himself as sharply and effectively as he needs to - especially when faced with sheer bull - i.e. Obama claiming falsely that Dr. Henry Kissinger said something he never said.....Dr. Kissinger came out the very next day to set Obama's "misstatement" straight. Did that correction even make page 9 in the liberal press? Senator McCain - give them Hell when they deserve it!
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    Oct 02, 2008 2:05 AM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidI'd like to see Senator McCain express himself as sharply and effectively as he needs to - especially when faced with sheer bull - i.e. Obama claiming falsely that Dr. Henry Kissinger said something he never said.....Dr. Kissinger came out the very next day to set Obama's "misstatement" straight. Did that correction even make page 9 in the liberal press? Senator McCain - give them Hell when they deserve it!


    Curse Rupert Murdoch and his liberal press!
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    Oct 02, 2008 2:07 AM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidI'd like to see Senator McCain express himself as sharply and effectively as he needs to - especially when faced with sheer bull - i.e. Obama claiming falsely that Dr. Henry Kissinger said something he never said.....Dr. Kissinger came out the very next day to set Obama's "misstatement" straight. Did that correction even make page 9 in the liberal press? Senator McCain - give them Hell when they deserve it!


    Too little, too late. Rail all you like, you've bought a ticket on the Titanic. Your concern now should be finding an empty seat in a lifeboat. How good are you dressing in drag?
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    Oct 02, 2008 2:09 AM GMT
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    Too little, too late. Rail all you like, you've bought a ticket on the Titanic. Your concern now should be finding an empty seat in a lifeboat. How good are you dressing in drag?


    LOL..this gave me a much needed laugh.
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    Oct 02, 2008 2:13 AM GMT
    I'm brave - I'll fight the sharks and take my chances swimming ashore!
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    Oct 02, 2008 2:16 AM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidMcSame has a short temper and a superior attitude, which is notorious in the US Senate. The hotter the race becomes, the more the "real" McCain will slip out.

    I've been reading that women tend to want someone with a little cooler temperament. Obama showed that.
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    Oct 02, 2008 2:19 AM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidI'm brave - I'll fight the sharks and take my chances swimming ashore!


    OK, spoken like a man! I like that! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 02, 2008 2:27 AM GMT
    MSNBC is utterly and completley biased and to the left. This is a well known fact even to other left leaning US media outlets. Olberman has one hour of just consistently and methodically bashing Republicans without anyone on his show to ever dispute his extreme far left views

    Just pick any clip you want of Olberman and each and every time you will find him bashing Bush and the Republicans....I mean really, if MSNBC is going to have someone this biased, have someone else on the show rebutt him every now and then

    MSNBC should learn from Fox News where Sean Hannity's right wing views are consistently challenged by Colhmes..hence "Hannity & Colhmes" or Bill O'Reilly where he always gives his guests "the last word"

    Guess that is why Fox News beats MSNBC 4 to 1 in ratings !!

    And honestly whoever is ignorant enough not to realize the US media is liberal and biased..it is not even worth discussing

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    Oct 02, 2008 2:57 AM GMT
    nycusa05 saidGuess that is why Fox News beats MSNBC 4 to 1 in ratings !!

    And honestly whoever is ignorant enough not to realize the US media is liberal and biased..it is not even worth discussing.

    I wonder what percentage of U.S. citizens ever even consider looking to foreign media sources to get a more comprehensive view of themselves, how they and their nation are percieved from beyond the borders.
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    Oct 02, 2008 4:24 AM GMT
    nycusa05 saidMSNBC is utterly and completley biased and to the left. This is a well known fact even to other left leaning US media outlets. Olberman has one hour of just consistently and methodically bashing Republicans without anyone on his show to ever dispute his extreme far left views

    Just pick any clip you want of Olberman and each and every time you will find him bashing Bush and the Republicans....I mean really, if MSNBC is going to have someone this biased, have someone else on the show rebutt him every now and then

    MSNBC should learn from Fox News where Sean Hannity's right wing views are consistently challenged by Colhmes..hence "Hannity & Colhmes" or Bill O'Reilly where he always gives his guests "the last word"

    Guess that is why Fox News beats MSNBC 4 to 1 in ratings !!

    And honestly whoever is ignorant enough not to realize the US media is liberal and biased..it is not even worth discussing





    Sure... It's not like this isn't the three thousandth time McCain has made a fool of himself in front of a TV camera... But it's all the media's fault!!!!

    Left wing media outlets like... The DesMoines Register (the people who took that clip)!!!! And Katie Couric!!!!

    You Republicans really need to man up and stop blaming the media for the incompetence and stupidity of the people you nominate as your candidates.
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    Oct 02, 2008 4:44 AM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidI'm brave - I'll fight the sharks and take my chances swimming ashore!


    Well, I must say I find your cheekiness amusing. I actually had a friend who was ON the Titanic. Her name was Edwina MacKenzie, and she was 27 years old that night in 1912. She lived to be 101. The details of her experience in lifeboat 13 would curl your toenails. The water was 28 degrees that night. And I'll tell ya something else: most of the men who willingly gave up their lives so their woman and children could save themselves were better conservatives than a neocon like you could ever hope to be. And, in November, I'll bet that you'll find yourself in the same position as those men: left out in the cold.
    The difference is that they went to their deaths with eyes wide open and heads held high. You, on the other hand, will probably scream like a spoiled brat once Obama gets elected.
    Unless your Republican friends cheat like they did for W in 2000 and pull a J. Bruce Ismay.

    Also, there were no sharks around. Just whales and icebergs. And a whole lot of frozen corpses.
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    Oct 02, 2008 5:09 AM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidI'd like to see Senator McCain express himself as sharply and effectively as he needs to - especially when faced with sheer bull - i.e. Obama claiming falsely that Dr. Henry Kissinger said something he never said.....Dr. Kissinger came out the very next day to set Obama's "misstatement" straight. Did that correction even make page 9 in the liberal press? Senator McCain - give them Hell when they deserve it!

    Maybe this is why they don't see it as worth reporting ..

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200809270002?f=s_searchCNN's King reads Kissinger statement without noting accusation against Obama is false

    Summary: On CNN, John King read a statement issued by former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in response to Sen. Barack Obama's citation during the presidential debate of Kissinger's support for direct negotiation with Iran without preconditions. The statement read: "Senator [John] McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level." But King did not point out that, contrary to Kissinger's suggestion, at no point during the debate that night did Obama suggest that Kissinger had previously endorsed presidential-level talks between the United States and Iran.

    Following the September 26 presidential debate, CNN chief national correspondent John King read a statement issued by former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in response to Sen. Barack Obama's citation of Kissinger's support for direct negotiation with Iran without preconditions. The statement read: "Senator [John] McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level." But King did not point out that, contrary to Kissinger's suggestion, at no point during the debate did Obama suggest that Kissinger had previously endorsed presidential-level talks between the United States and Iran. During the debate Obama said, "Senator McCain mentioned Henry Kissinger, who's one of his advisers, who, along with five recent secretaries of state, just said that we should meet with Iran -- guess what -- without precondition. This is one of your own advisers," and, "When we talk about preconditions -- and Henry Kissinger did say we should have contacts without preconditions -- the idea is that we do not expect to solve every problem before we initiate talks." During the debate, McCain repeatedly purported to correct Obama by saying Kissinger would not support presidential-level talks with Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Each time, Obama made clear that was not his contention -- that, instead, he was accurately saying Kissinger supported talks between the United States and Iran at levels below the president.

    In fact, Obama's comments during the debate accurately reflected Kissinger's comments during a September 15 forum. Kissinger said, "Well, I am in favor of negotiating with Iran. And one utility of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East, of a stable Middle East, and our notion on nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it. And, therefore, I actually preferred doing it at the secretary of state level so that we -- we know we're dealing with authentic -- with authentic proposals." Asked by CNN's Frank Sesno, "To put at a very high level right out of the box?" Kissinger responded:

    Initially, yes. And I always believed that the best way to begin a negotiation is to tell the other side exactly what you have in mind and what you are -- what the outcome is that you're trying to achieve so that they have something that they can react to.

    Now, the permanent members of the Security Council, plus Japan and Germany, have all said nuclear weapons in Iran are unacceptable. They've never explained what they mean by this. So if we go into a negotiation, we ought to have a clear understanding of what is it we're trying to prevent. What is it going to do if we can't achieve what we're talking about?

    But I do not believe that we can make conditions for the opening of negotiations. We ought, however, to be very clear about the content of negotiations and work it out with other countries and with our own government.




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    http://mediamatters.org/items/200809270002?f=s_search From CNN's September 26 post-debate coverage:

    KING: Someone's watching our discussion. The McCain campaign just released a statement by none other than Henry Kissinger, who says, quote: "Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next president of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality." So, this is the post-debate, things move quickly.

    From CNN's transcript of its September 21 special report The Next President: A World of Challenges:
    KISSINGER: Well, I am in favor of negotiating with Iran. And one utility of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East, of a stable Middle East, and our notion on nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it. And, therefore, I actually preferred doing it at the secretary of state level so that we -- we know we're dealing with authentic -- with authentic proposals.

    SESNO: To put at a very high level right out of the box?

    KISSINGER:
    Initially, yes. And I always believed that the best way to begin a negotiation is to tell the other side exactly what you have in mind and what you are -- what the outcome is that you're trying to achieve so that they have something that they can react to.

    Now, the permanent members of the Security Council, plus Japan and Germany, have all said nuclear weapons in Iran are unacceptable. They've never explained what they mean by this. So if we go into a negotiation, we ought to have a clear understanding of what is it we're trying to prevent. What is it going to do if we can't achieve what we're talking about?

    But I do not believe that we can make conditions for the opening of negotiations. We ought, however, to be very clear about the content of negotiations and work it out with other countries and with our own government.