California rebirth (or afterbirth)

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    Feb 07, 2013 12:22 AM GMT
    I sure hope this turns out to be true. When nature takes its course with my very elderly parents, I sure would like to move back out there.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/harold-meyerson-a-second-act-for-jerry-brown--and-california/2013/02/05/2e9ba24c-6fcb-11e2-ac36-3d8d9dcaa2e2_story.html
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    Feb 07, 2013 12:49 AM GMT
    Color me skeptical that a state that routinely can't predict how large a deficit it's going to run is suddenly going to get a surplus going.

    And with no new taxes, no new cuts, and more green programs too!
  • coolarmydude

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    Feb 07, 2013 1:52 AM GMT
    Larkin saidColor me skeptical that a state that routinely can't predict how large a deficit it's going to run is suddenly going to get a surplus going.

    And with no new taxes, no new cuts, and more green programs too!


    The new taxes are coming from Prop 30 - read!
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    Feb 07, 2013 2:03 AM GMT
    coolarmydude said
    Larkin saidColor me skeptical that a state that routinely can't predict how large a deficit it's going to run is suddenly going to get a surplus going.

    And with no new taxes, no new cuts, and more green programs too!


    The new taxes are coming from Prop 30 - read!


    But Brown will have none of this. “The answer is no on taxes,” he told me in a recent interview.

    I did read. Prop 30 was in November of last year. This kabuki show was this year.
  • coolarmydude

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    Feb 08, 2013 2:11 AM GMT
    Larkin said
    But Brown will have none of this. “The answer is no on taxes,” he told me in a recent interview.

    I did read. Prop 30 was in November of last year. This kabuki show was this year.


    In November, voters approved Brown’s ballot measure, Proposition 30, which raised taxes on the wealthy and stabilized state finances to the point that Standard & Poor’s upgraded California’s credit rating last week.

    checkmate! icon_wink.gif

    How can you seek more taxes when the new increased rates just took effect? And they seem to be working.
  • Webster666

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    Feb 08, 2013 3:31 AM GMT
    Let's see...
    My Governor is a Democrat.
    My Congressional Representative is a Democrat.
    Both of my Senators are Democrats.
    And, there is a large majority of Democrats in both houses of the State Legislature.

    There seems to be a pattern, here...
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 09, 2013 5:57 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidLet's see...
    My Governor is a Democrat.
    My Congressional Representative is a Democrat.
    Both of my Senators are Democrats.
    And, there is a large majority of Democrats in both houses of the State Legislature.

    There seems to be a pattern, here...
    It appears that your politicians are doing their job now that California's financial health is improving. Now if only politicians in both Illinois and New York would do their jobs by doing something about the troublesome financial situations facing both states.
  • thadjock

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    Feb 09, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIt appears that your politicians are doing their job now that California's financial health is improving. Now if only politicians in both Illinois and New York would do their jobs by doing something about the troublesome financial situations facing both states.


    i agree , you're also right that Illinois is in serious shit, in addition to their fincancial crisis, chicago is making los angeles look like candyland when it comes to gang violence and murder rates.
  • musclmed

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    Feb 09, 2013 8:15 PM GMT
    if there maybe a surplus why is it being proposed to change the rules to make it easier to raise taxes?

    http://www.sacbee.com/2013/01/20/5125277/make-it-easier-to-hike-taxes-no.html

    in LA City ( thank god i can avoid most of the time buying things within the city of L.A.) they are proposing a raise to 9.5% sales tax just after the state raised it to 9.0%

    http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_22045971/sales-tax-increase-march-ballot-would-close-los



    Democratic Sens. Mark Leno of San Francisco and Lois Wolk of Davis want lawmakers to put constitutional amendments before voters that would lower the vote threshold to raise taxes for school districts and some other local governments from the current two-thirds to 55 percent. Meanwhile, Assemblyman Tom Ammiano of San Francisco is proposing a change that would require businesses to pay higher property taxes.

    http://www.thereporter.com/ci_22324264/california-school-funding-tax-changes-democrats-agenda
  • thadjock

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    Feb 09, 2013 8:29 PM GMT
    musclmed said
    in LA City ( thank god i can avoid most of the time buying things within the city of L.A.) they are proposing a raise to 9.5% sales tax just after the state raised it to 9.0%

    personally the sales tax here doesn't bother me, i don't have a consumer heavy lifestyle, (and i'm fully aware that's an egocentric pov. because i'm not trying to feed,clothe or shelter a family of 6, the city/state sales tax for that burden would admittedly be brutal)

    it's the state income tax i'd like to see someone address,

    the price we pay for weather, and geography, and progressive attitudes (for the most part). is huge