So is the new "dust up" about Governor Christie important? Is this man's weight really an issue if he runs for president?

  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 07, 2013 2:09 PM GMT
    President Clinton's former White House physician (who is an admitted republican) has talked about Chris Christie's weight as a potential issue
    if he runs for President. He called for her to "shut up".

    The bottom line... is this an issue if he runs in 2016?

    I had to admit, I think he'll remind me of William Howard Taft (who certainly didn't die in office, but was a "one termer). We focus on "health & fitness"
    here... is his weight issue... "a factor" in whether you'd ever consider voting for him???


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    Feb 07, 2013 2:19 PM GMT
    Tough Topic because we just haven't had many overweight guys run for President. To be honest I think Christie wouldn't win the Republican Nomination more because he would be challenged by nut-jobs who make him seem too moderate than the issue being him overweight. I think this day in age people vote more along party lines than anything else.

    I actually like Christie and think he would be a good candidate. Assuming he doesn't want to back peddle on equal rights.
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    Feb 07, 2013 3:15 PM GMT
    Although in relatively good health now, I think the weight will eventually take its toll especially combined with the pressures of the office of POTUS. I think weight will be a 'huge' factor and he needs to start now, well in advance of 2016 to do something about it however he has to including gastric bypass if that would work.
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    Feb 07, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    I believe it will be a factor, but not necessarily a factor with overwhelming weight to preclude a effective candidacy.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Feb 07, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    In the end, I'm not sure if Christie's weight will be as much of a factor as other things. I personally find his bluntness refreshing, but not sure how it will play in a national campaign if there are more overall likable strong candidates in the mix. It's probably going to be Hillary's campaign to lose anyway.
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    Feb 07, 2013 4:36 PM GMT
    There is a fairly large number of Americans who are obese and he may have that vote locked up. Plus, he has 3 years to lose a lot of that weight. This will be a non-issue by 2015 when the presidential race really gets going.
    For me, Christie vs. Clinton would be kind of amazing.
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    Feb 07, 2013 6:06 PM GMT
    Not an issue to me if I like the candidate, certainly no more than age is. Just have a decent VP on the ticket.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 07, 2013 6:17 PM GMT
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    Feb 07, 2013 9:04 PM GMT
    No overweight or bald person will be elected president in this country. People have an automatic disdain for anyone overweight. When I was in better shape, I found myself doing it, too. And I know all about being heavy. I was born morbidly obese. I'm not saying this discrimination is okay, far from it. But it's something people do. Especially women. It's very easy to go with feelings, emotions, and projecting rather than research and consideration.
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    Feb 07, 2013 10:51 PM GMT
    Chris Christie looks like Michigan Football Coach Brady Hoke.
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    Feb 07, 2013 11:03 PM GMT
    yourname2000 saidHe can be "Expander in Chief". icon_lol.gif

    Yeah, he's too fat to be taken seriously. POTUS should be able to demonstrate some level of self control, and clearly Mr Christie likes his cookies.

    But is this really news??? The last hefty pres was what, Teddy Roosevelt?? And even he was half Christie's size. Christie has eaten himself out of the role, and he knows it.....as soon as he went into politics, he knew that "there are no fat presidents". And there shouldn't be.


    Incorrect. The last hefty bagger was William Taft at 355 pounds, TR's successor.
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    Feb 07, 2013 11:11 PM GMT
    I've always wondered if the Taft Bath incident was true. I've heard conflicting reports.
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    Feb 07, 2013 11:16 PM GMT
    msuNtx saidI've always wondered if the Taft Bath incident was true. I've heard conflicting reports.


    As with most of these kind of stories, probably not, but one would think it could have with his waistline of 60-70". He was a real big guy.
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    Feb 07, 2013 11:24 PM GMT
    Taft was TR's handpicked successor, but he didn't much want to be POTUS nearly as much as he would have liked SCOTUS. His wife also had a massive stroke shortly after taking office plus Taft suffered from bouts of depression so he ate and ate putting on appx 100 pounds while he was president.
  • Timbales

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    Feb 07, 2013 11:47 PM GMT
    I think it's funny how defensive people get about Christie's weight and how unfair it is, but female politicians are scrutinized on their appearance and no one blinks.
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    Feb 08, 2013 12:55 AM GMT
    If his weight isn't an issue, it should be. The last thing we need is a President who's gonna spend more time in the hospital than running the country.
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    Feb 08, 2013 1:51 AM GMT
    Hmmm...I don't this would be an issue at all. What will be THE issue is that he stepped away from the Party's lock-step and praised Obama's aid after the storm.
  • Webster666

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    Feb 08, 2013 3:40 AM GMT
    I think he's a GREAT choice for the Republicans.
    He could easily get the nomination.
    As for his weight, I don't think it would be a factor, during the campaign.

    If he were elected President, he would turn 55, during his first year in office.
    Then, his health could be in great danger, because of a combination of his age, his weight, and the stress of the job.
  • thadjock

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    Feb 08, 2013 3:59 AM GMT
    fat or not , i think the quandry for the republicans is that Christie might be the only potential candidate they've got ( unless they pull a rabbit out of their hat ) who has any cross over appeal and could carry the moderate voters needed to win.

    however his cross over appeal evaporates as soon as he's paired with some wingnut clone like rubio or jindal ryan or cantor. and then Christies' health would also becomes a huge issue.
  • thadjock

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    Feb 08, 2013 4:54 AM GMT
    Aristoshark saidIt doesn't matter because the hard-liners in his party actually believe that his comments during the hurricane threw the election to Obama. They can't imagine any other reason for Obama to win.

    Which is really odd when you think of it, because every single state that was affected by Sandy was a blue state anyway.


    true. I think denial is the primary ingredient in the Republican kool-aid these days.

    as an obama supporter, i find Christies' ( apparent ) candor and lack of pandering to the right ( or the left ) the qualities i admire most about him as a candidate.

    unfortunately I dont think those are qualities that carry you very far in a republican political career, especially when suspects like Rubio, Cantor and Ryan are hailed as the braintrust and future of the party.
  • GQjock

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    Feb 08, 2013 8:20 PM GMT
    Is it a factor?
    I dunno .... but him saying that he's the healthiest "fat Guy" that he knows isn't saying much

    The Dr who stated what she did was stating fact
    You cannot be obese and healthy ....

    and have you seen him lately?
    Christie seems to be getting bigger

    Running the rigors of a Presidential campaign is going to be a gauntlet for him
    and will it cause health problems exacerbated by his obesity?
    Who knows... mebbe we should ask the other "Fat Guys" he knows
  • thadjock

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    Feb 09, 2013 1:17 AM GMT
    GQjock said
    Running the rigors of a Presidential campaign is going to be a gauntlet for him
    and will it cause health problems exacerbated by his obesity?
    Who knows... mebbe we should ask the other "Fat Guys" he knows


    that much weight can't be good for anybody, but statistically speaking more skinny presidents have died in office, or been impaired (assasination, pneumonia, polio etc.) than fat ones.

    Someones obesity doesn't necessarily predict iminent mortality. I think people fear that because of all the high profile fat guys who've died prematurely....john candy, chris farley, etc. but you can be a rock solid trim and fit runner and still have high blood pressure and high cholesterol off the charts, or have a stroke like Mark Kirk from Illinois did.

    if he's as healthy as he says he is, I'm sure if he decides to run he'll make all his medical records public, and probably drop some of the weight.

    I think for the ADD voting public, his weight is more of a cosmetic issue, we want the hot dude or the sexy chick, people vote for a president like it's american idol.
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    Feb 09, 2013 12:11 PM GMT

    http://www.azfamily.com/news/Valley-doctor-reacts-to-criticism-from-NJ-Governor-190327581.htmlAfter these comments, Mariano said Christie called her and yelled at her.

    “It was essentially the tone of the press conference only louder,” she said. "It was hard to get anything across.”

    “I don’t think he realized who he was talking to,” Mariano told 3TV, adding that it’s common for medical experts to weigh in on the health concerns of potential presidential candidates. “I think I'm qualified to make a comment.”

    Ironically, Mariano has been a Christie supporter and identifies herself as a Republican. However, she said her future support for a potential Christie run in 2016 is damaged.

    “The way he acted lately I don't think so. He wasn't very nice to me,” she said. “Politically if this is the way [he handles] stress… is this presidential? I'll have to think about that. Is this a presidential way to behave? C'mon.”
  • thadjock

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    Feb 09, 2013 4:47 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 said


    “The way he acted lately I don't think so. He wasn't very nice to me,” she said. “Politically if this is the way [he handles] stress… is this presidential? I'll have to think about that. Is this a presidential way to behave? C'mon.”

    Is this Bitch running for something? Why should we care what she thinks? Everybody knows christie's fat, Christie knows he's fat. Seems she has an agenda to media bash him like this.
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    Feb 10, 2013 1:18 AM GMT
    In defense of the doctor, she is a radio personality, and she was asked for her opinion of the Christie donut footage. Christie is a public personality, and nearly all public personalities have had their medical histories commented on, with or without information like family history and cholesterol levels, etc. His body mass index is a whopping 46, and his waist is 54. It doesn't take any further arcane knowledge to say that he is at high risk for the conditions his weight predisposes him to.

    Imagine the uproar if Hillary Clinton had personally called up any of the people who speculated on her "fake" concussion.

    The politically neutral way of responding to the doctor's comments would be a terse statement from the office appreciating her concern and politely dismissing them as none-of-her-business. Another way to make this a positive experience would be for him to embark on a public weight loss program (which would encourage a lot of people like him who acknowledge their weight problem but not really acting to correct it). But that's not Christie--he's too brash, and he's too busy.

    I'm expecting that irate call from Christie any time soon...icon_lol.gif