Ex-LAPD Shooter on the Run. Manifesto is TL;DR

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    Feb 07, 2013 4:38 PM GMT
    And I'm not going to waste time posting a killer's manifesto on here. (Scanned through it, and dude's all over the place, including opinions on media, his fellow black people, LGBT... not worth anyone's time). I just hope they find the scum, but he'll probably off himself before they do, since he assumes as much.

    Don't kill people as a device to draw attention to your apparently chronic need for attention.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57568135/1-cop-killed-2-others-shot-amid-manhunt-for-ex-lapd-officer/

    CBSThere were two separate overnight shootings about 60 miles east of Los Angeles in Riverside County that investigators believe involved former LAPD officer Christopher Dorner, who's also the main suspect in the weekend killing of a couple whose bodies were found in Irvine. He was fired in 2008 for making false statements.

    CBS News senior correspondent John Miller, a former head of the LAPD's Major Crimes Division, said on "CBS This Morning" Thursday that authorities were carrying out a manhunt "like none other" to find Dorner.

    "He's really thrown down an incredible gauntlet here, and they have deployed every resource the LAPD has," Miller said.

    The first overnight shooting occurred in the city of Corona and involved two LAPD officers working a security detail, said Sgt. Alex Baez of the LAPD's Newton division. One officer was grazed.

    Later, two officers on routine patrol in the neighboring city of Riverside were ambushed in their patrol car at a stop light, said Riverside Lt. Guy Toussaint.

    Officer Bryan Galbreath told CBS Los Angeles station KNX-AM that the Riverside police officer who survived being shot was being operated on and was in critical condition.

    The Riverside officers shot overnight were not actively looking for Dorner, Toussaint said.

    Police don't know where Dorner is but think he left the area, he said.
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    Feb 07, 2013 4:44 PM GMT
    The victims of double murder that the guy is accused of involves (Corrected) the daughter (a CSU Fullerton hoops coach) and would-be son-in-law of a former LAPD captain.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/suspect-idd-calif-killings-coach-fiance

    APFormer LAPD officer and U.S. Navy reservist Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is the suspect in the killings of Monica Quan, 28, and her 27-year-old fiancé Keith Lawrence, who were found shot to death in their car at a parking structure Sunday night, Irvine police Chief David L. Maggard said at a news conference.

    Police said Dorner implicated himself in the killings with a multi-page "manifesto" that he wrote that included threats against several people, but would give no further details on the document or its contents.

    Police do not know Dorner's whereabouts, and authorities were seeking the public's help in finding the suspect.

    "We have strong cause to believe Dorner is armed and dangerous," Maggard said, adding that the LAPD and FBI are assisting in the case and anyone who sees the suspect should immediately call 911.

    Dorner was with the department from 2005 until 2008, when he was fired for making false statements.

    Quan's father, Randal Quan, a former LAPD captain who became a lawyer in retirement, represented Dorner in front of the Board of Rights, a tribunal that ruled against Dorner at the time of his dismissal, LAPD Capt. William Hayes told The Associated Press Wednesday night.


    The manhunt is ongoing.
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    Feb 07, 2013 5:18 PM GMT
    Amid a state of organizational panic, the LAPD is definitely NOT helping their own cause at the moment.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/torrance-shootings.html

    LA TimesLos Angeles and Torrance police were involved in two shootings in Torrance early Thursday when police came across vehicles similar to the one sought by authorities in a massive manhunt for an ex-LAPD officer suspected of shooting three other officers.

    Neither incident actually involved the suspect, said Torrance police Lt. Devin Chase. The suspect, Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, was at large Thursday morning.

    The first Torrance incident occurred about 5:20 a.m. in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue in Torrance, Chase said. That incident involved Los Angeles police detectives from the Hollywood division, sources said.

    Two people were struck by gunfire and transported to an area hospital with unknown injuries, Chase said. No officers were injured.

    The second incident, which involved Torrance police, occurred at Flagler Lane and Beryl Street about 5:45 a.m. No injuries were reported in that incident.

    Chase said both incidents involved vehicles matching the description of the one sought in connection with Dorner.

    "Now it appears neither of them are directly related," Chase said. "In both of them, officers believed they were at the time."

    It was not immediately clear if occupants of the vehicles matched Dorner's description, Chase said.


    A commenter on the link insists the victims this morning were two women, out delivering newspapers. icon_mad.gif
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    Feb 07, 2013 5:40 PM GMT
    ^Confirmed.

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    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html

    Women delivering newspapers in Torrance shot in manhunt for ex-cop icon_mad.gif

    "To Protect and To Serve," huh? C'mon, ALL you cops, get your sh*t together.
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    Feb 07, 2013 5:44 PM GMT
    The jerk they're searching for is a black male, 6' 270 lbs. Shouldn't be terribly hard to spot him, not in the daytime anyway.

    Irvine Police (via Twitter)PRESS RELEASE: Gray Nissan Titan truck w/ roof rack, bed cover w/ black wheels. Lic. plate 8D83987 http://bit.ly/WwJcQN pic.twitter.com/eb84UPIs
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    Feb 07, 2013 6:17 PM GMT
    Which direction would you bet he's running? I'll bet you guessed right. Looks like his grand plans are already going awry.

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/SD-Manhunt-Suspects-Property-Badge-San-Diego--190189011.html

    NBC San DiegoThe military called San Diego police and said there was a strong possibility that the suspect was spotted near Spanish Landing according to San Diego police spokesman Gary Hassen.

    The suspect is former Los Angeles Police Department Christopher Jordan Dorner, the man at the center of a statewide manhunt...

    The LAPD badge of suspect ex-LAPD Officer Christopher Dorner was discovered by an airport shuttle driver near Lindbergh Field. The badge was turned over to Harbor police at 2:27 a.m.

    San Diego police confirm the badge was found at the corner of Pacific Highway and Laurel Street. Several rental car companies and a gas station are located at the corner.


    NBC San DiegoSan Diego police were called to the Southwestern Yacht Club located at 2702 Qualtrough Street for an apparent boatjacking around 10:26 p.m. Wednesday.

    The 81-year-old boat owner was on his 42-foot sundeck cruiser when a “heavy set man in his 30s dressed in black clothing” robbed him, tied him up and pulled the boat out of the slip officials said.

    The man could not start the boat so he took some items from the vessel and left according to police.


    San Diego police have not confirmed if the suspect in the attempted robbery at the Yacht Club was Dorner.

    CHP officers statewide are on alert. All court appearances for CHP officers have been canceled Thursday.

    If you spot the suspect or the vehicle, officials warn you not to engage him but to call 911.


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    Feb 07, 2013 7:04 PM GMT
    Timeline for the suspect:

    NBC LA2002: Christopher Dorner joins the LAPD. He is assigned to the Harbor area. He also serves in the military, as a reservist in the Navy.

    2006: In September, Dorner is highlighted in an internal LAPD newsletter as an example of how the police agency is supporting its personnel who serve in the military. He is photographed with then-chief William Bratton, and in the following month’s newsletter as well.

    In November, he is deployed to the Persian Gulf for six months, where he served in Bahrain and provided security for offshore oil platform. He receives several honors, including the Iraq Campaign Medal, the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, a Rifle Marksman Ribbon and a Pistol Expert Medal.

    2008: Dorner’s employment with the LAPD is terminated. He is accused of falsely accusing a fellow officer of kicking a suspect.

    2011: Dorner’s lawsuit challenging his firing is rejected by the California Court of Appeals.

    Feb. 1, 2013: Dorner separates from the Navy with a rank of Lieutenant.

    Feb. 3, 2013: The daughter of Randal Quan, the LAPD’s first Asian-American captain and her fiancé are shot to death while sitting in their car on the top floor of the parking garage of their Irvine condo complex.

    Feb. 6, 2013: LAPD officers identify the man they suspect of killing Monica Quan and her fiance, Keith Lawrence, as Dorner. The LAPD releases a manifesto allegedly written by Dorner that names Asian-American, lesbian and Hispanic police officers as “high value targets.”

    Feb. 7, 2013: At 1:25 a.m., a man police believe is Dorner shoots at two LAPD officers who had been assigned to protect people targeted in the manifesto. At 1:45 a.m. a man police believe is Dorner ambushes two Riverside police officers, killing one and severely wounding the other.
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    Feb 07, 2013 8:46 PM GMT
    Plan A looks like he was trying to steal a boat and head to Mexico. As for Plan B... snowy mountains???

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    Fox LA (via Twitter)BREAKING: Truck burning in Big Bear City may be related to the Chris #Dorner manhunt.


    They've already cornered a few people mistaken for the suspect (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/San-Diego-Police-Investigate-Possible-Lead-in-Manhunt-190234531.html), so we'll have to wait and see.
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    Feb 07, 2013 9:01 PM GMT
    Doug Saunders (via Twitter @crimeshutterbug)Sources CONFIRMED the manhunt has taken it's route to the BIg Bear mountain area and the search continues

    #Dorner is considered armed and dangerous and IS in the San Bernardino Mountains
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    Feb 07, 2013 11:05 PM GMT
    Winter Storm Warning coming to Big Bear in the next few hours. Assuming the burning truck was not just a distraction tactic, Big Boy's gonna be freezing his hiney off.

    Picture timeline of the shooter post college-graduation:

    http://projects.scpr.org/static/timelines/christopher-dorner-timeline/
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    Feb 07, 2013 11:14 PM GMT
    When Lisa Lampanelli is compelled to show some compassion ("asking from the bottom of my heart"), you're doing it wrong:

    http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-manhunt-surrender-bill-handel-lisa-lampanelli

    TMZL.A. radio personality Bill Handel, from KFI-AM, spoke to us moments ago about Dorner ... and recorded a personal plea for Dorner to turn himself in to authorities.

    We also spoke to comedienne Lisa Lampanelli, who Dorner called a "genius," and she made a similar plea.
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    Feb 07, 2013 11:17 PM GMT
    @ABC7 (Twitter)@AndersonCooper says Christopher #Dorner sent him parcel @CNN incl. note, DVD and coin with bullet holes.
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    Feb 08, 2013 4:10 AM GMT
    Just in case, a 2nd vehicle tied to him was just found in Poway neighborhood of San Diego.
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    Feb 08, 2013 2:18 PM GMT
    For those who did read snippets of the "manifesto" (I feel so uncomfortable calling it that, and I still don't intend to post it), do you believe he may have imperiled the possibility of passing an assault weapons ban?

    In it, he brags with great detail about the ease with which he allegedly acquired assault weapons and silencers, then implores VP Biden (whom he adores) and President Obama (whom he admires but doesn't always agree with and didn't vote for) to get policies enacted that keep folks like him from acquiring them, either expressly legally or through loopholes.

    Errantly but effectively, unfortunately, I just see some pols will suggest that pursuing the new policies would just be acquiescing to the demands of a cold-blooded killer (never mind the anguished parents/children of victims of assault weapon violence).
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    Feb 08, 2013 2:24 PM GMT
    This story has hit the news in the UK too.

    It's reading a bit like... 'Ex-police nutter on loose kills 3 people. Police decide to help by shooting 2 innocent people in case of mistaken identity'

    It's quite a sad story and the police seem to be handling things very badly.

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    Feb 08, 2013 2:35 PM GMT
    On those two victims of LAPD out delivering newspapers (truck shown a few posts above), it was a Latina mother-daughter duo. The mom is 71 years old. icon_sad.gif

    LA TimesA 71-year-old woman delivering newspapers with her daughter remained in intensive care Thursday night after she was shot twice in the back by Los Angeles police detectives during a massive manhunt for a fugitive ex-LAPD officer, according to the womens' attorney.

    Emma Hernandez was delivering the Los Angeles Times with her daughter, Margie Carranza, 47, in Torrance early Thursday when police officers apparently mistook their pickup for that of Christopher Jordan Dorner, the 33-year-old fugitive suspected of killing three people and injuring two others.

    The officers riddled the women's blue pickup with bullets in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue. Carranza was also hit, according to attorney Glen T. Jonas, and received stitches to a finger.

    "The problem with the situation is it looked like the police had the goal of administering street justice and in so doing, didn't take the time to notice that these two older, small Latina women don't look like a large black man," Jonas said.

    Dorner is black, 6 feet tall and weighs 270 pounds.

    Jonas said the women's vehicle was also "the wrong color and the wrong model" compared to Dorner's.

    "We trust that the LAPD will step up and do the right thing and acknowledge that what they did was unacceptable and we'll deal with it," Jonas said.

    Sources said the Los Angeles police detectives involved in the Torrance shooting were on protective detail for a police official named in an online manifesto that authorities say was posted to a Facebook page they believe belongs to Dorner.


    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/manhunt-newspaper-carrier-icu-shot-by-police.html

    No word from the LAPD yet, as to why they felt threatened enough to justify opening fire on this particular truck and its passengers.
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    Feb 08, 2013 8:24 PM GMT
    dayumm saidAmid a state of organizational panic, the LAPD is definitely NOT helping their own cause at the moment.



    They shot up the womens vehicle delivering papers. Then a black Honda ridgeline that happened to go down the street. In fact they rammed the car then shot into the car. How the guy was not killed is amazing.

    The cars are not even close to what the fugitives looks like.

    Socal police seem to have this attitude they can shoot at anything. I think the FBI needs to get involved and investigate these shootings as it is being downplayed as a "mistake".

    I am usually on the police side, but there is no justification for the amount of shots fired and the second shooting.

    I believe that such a bias exist within LAPD on this case the FBI should take over. Obviously they want this guy dead and they do not care whom they kill in the process.

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Police-Who-Shot-Women-Mistaken-ID-Leave-190413671.html
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    Feb 09, 2013 4:47 PM GMT
    First hint of the LAPD's excusplanation:

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/cops-opened-fire-on-mother-daughter-during-dorner-manhunt.html

    LA Timesaround 5 a.m. Thursday in Torrance, police from nearby El Segundo saw a pickup truck exit a freeway and head in the general direction of the Redbeam Avenue residence of a high-ranking Los Angeles police official, which was being guarded by a group of LAPD officers.

    A radio call indicated that the truck matched the description of Dorner's gray Nissan Titan.

    As the vehicle approached the house, officers opened fire, unloading a barrage of bullets into the back of the truck. When the shooting stopped, they quickly realized their mistake. The truck was not a Nissan Titan, but a Toyota Tacoma. The color wasn't gray, but aqua blue. And it wasn't Dorner inside the truck, but Carranza and her mother delivering copies of the Los Angeles Times...

    ...((LA Police Chief)) Beck said he had not yet received a detailed briefing, which typically occurs a few days after officer-involved shootings to give investigators time to collect evidence and put together the basic summary of what happened. But he did say that the gunfire occurred in two bursts: The first came from an officer positioned down the block from the ((protected)) LAPD official's residence, and the second when Carranza accelerated away from the gunfire and toward other officers.

    After the investigation is completed, Beck and an oversight board will decide if officers were justified in the shooting or made mistakes that warrant either punishment or training.
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    Feb 09, 2013 4:55 PM GMT
    "Gurrrrrl..." She certainly tried to warn people, at least six years ago. We sure could use a dontdatehimboi.com, no?

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-manhunt-ex-girlfriend-called-him-emotionally-disturbed.html

    LA TimesChristopher Dorner's former girlfriend described the police officer-turned-fugitive as a "severely and emotionally disturbed person" in court documents filed after they broke up (in) 2006.

    Ariana Williams' claims are part of the documents in a restraining order that Dorner was seeking.

    The former LAPD officer said in the restraining order request that Williams annoyed and harassed him by phone and in a letter. The restraining order was ultimately denied.

    Williams, who wrote that she met Dorner at a sporting goods store, posted information about Dorner on dontdatehimgirl.com, an online site sometimes referred to as a relationship "credit check" for women, court documents show.

    On the site, the former girlfriend posted Dorner's LAPD badge number and detailed her 6-week dating experience with him, according to court documents.

    "Anyway just be careful because this guy is a police officer and he will probably think that he can get away with anything," she wrote on the site.

    "He is super paranoid always thinking somebody's out to get him."

    "If you value your sanity, stay away from this guy," she wrote.
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    Feb 10, 2013 3:06 PM GMT
    Look out, white surfers! Five-Oh will come after you, too.

    It's not the color of your skin that matters to the po-po's, but it may be the hue of your vehicle!

    http://www.stripes.com/news/us/police-seeking-dorner-opened-fire-in-a-second-case-of-mistaken-identity-1.207333

    LA Times (via Stripes)LOS ANGELES—David Perdue was on his way to sneak in some surfing before work Thursday morning when police flagged him down. They asked who he was and where he was headed, then sent him on his way.

    Seconds later, Perdue’s attorney said, a Torrance police cruiser slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire; none of the bullets struck Perdue.

    His pickup, police later explained, matched the description of the one belonging to Christopher Jordan Dorner — the ex-cop who has evaded authorities after allegedly killing three and wounding two more. But the pickups were different makes and colors. And Perdue looks nothing like Dorner: He’s several inches shorter and about a hundred pounds lighter. And Perdue is white; Dorner is black.

    “I don’t want to use the word buffoonery but it really is unbridled police lawlessness,” said Robert Sheahen, Perdue’s attorney. “These people need training and they need restraint.”...

    Torrance police said the officers who slammed into Perdue were responding to shots fired moments earlier in a nearby area where LAPD officers were standing guard outside the home of someone targeted in an online manifesto that authorities have attributed to Dorner.

    In the first incident, LAPD officers opened fire on another pickup they feared was being driven by Dorner. The mother and daughter inside the truck were delivering Los Angeles Times newspapers. The older woman was shot twice in the back and the other was wounded by broken glass.

    In Perdue’s case, his attorney said he wasn’t struck by bullets or glass but was injured in the car wreck, suffering a concussion and an injury to his shoulder. The Los Angeles International Airport baggage handler hasn’t been able to work since, and his car is totaled, Sheahen said.

    “When Torrance issues this ridiculous statement saying he wasn’t injured, all they mean is he wasn’t killed,” his attorney said, referring to a press release reporting “no visible injuries” to Perdue.

    A department spokesman said Saturday that the shooting is still under investigation. In a statement to the Los Angeles Times, the department said: “The circumstances of the incident known to the responding officers would have led a reasonable officer under normal circumstances — and these were far from normal circumstances — to believe that fellow officers were being shot at and that the vehicle traveling toward them posed a serious risk.

    “In the split seconds available to them,” the statement continued, “action was appropriate to intervene and stop the actions of the driver of that vehicle.

    According to the police department, Perdue’s car was headed directly for one of their patrol vehicles and appeared not to be yielding. When the vehicles collided, Perdue’s air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds.

    The Torrance police chief apologized to Perdue and offered him a rental car and payment for his medical expenses, the statement said...

    Perdue’s attorneys said their client was shot at without warning.

    As you know, officers of the Torrance Police Department attempted to kill Mr. Perdue” Thursday, the attorneys wrote in a letter to the agency’s chief.
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    Feb 13, 2013 1:12 AM GMT
    just wow.
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    Feb 13, 2013 3:55 AM GMT
    Ding Dong! The B*tch Is Dead!