Why Muslims should embrace same-sex marriage

  • metta

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    Feb 08, 2013 6:59 AM GMT
    Why Muslims should embrace same-sex marriage

    Omar Kuddus explains his belief that his religion should welcome the love gay and lesbian couples share with each other and allow them to have nikahs, traditional marriage contracts

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/why-muslims-should-embrace-same-sex-marriage060213
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    Feb 08, 2013 7:09 AM GMT
    This is a failed attempt
    Americans have no idea what this religion is !

    I have lived under these horror

    ask me

    taliban , Wahabi Salafi , Shia all behead us of we are found out to be gays

    he was a gay , & said to be a spy but the truth was he was a homosexual




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    Feb 08, 2013 7:16 AM GMT


    Check what happened to this guy in the video
  • Doodles

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    Feb 08, 2013 7:35 AM GMT
    I cant believe I just saw part of that video... that is truly horrible and makes me really question what truly goes on the minds of people who actually do that.

    I will just say that there will be extremist of any religious background. It will probably take a long time... if not ever (and definitely not in my lifetime) to see homosexuality to be accepted by everyone. But to take it to that extreme and to broadcast an execution in that manner... makes me sick.

    Though the op post does shed some light that things are/can move in the right direction.
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    Feb 08, 2013 7:43 AM GMT
    what was his fault ?


    he was a homosexual who realized he got life in jesus & embraced christianity !


    Really speaking , its unbelievable for the west to even allow muslims in their country knowing they are taking over in US , UK & the europe
    as christians are not that into religion & they are entirely into religion

    they are converting christians into muslims everyday & breeding an army which will be a treat to the america just like OSama -bin-laden did (studying in US & killing innocents)
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    Feb 08, 2013 9:22 AM GMT
    @ Zeriel

    Don't ever do that again! don't share those videos...

    If you share, at least give a warning!
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    Feb 08, 2013 10:21 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidI haven't watched any vids in this thread, but I remember one of the first atrocities I saw: the beheading of Nicholas Berg. That boy was beautiful, and totally bewildered by what was happening to him. I watched innocent; I emerged changed. There is something about seeing another group of humans treat a human like they would a goat at Eid....it changed me.

    Death to all who think that way....a horrible, meat grinder death that lingers....I wish suffering upon them. icon_sad.gif


    Its not just that many of the be-headings are not recorded
    i was about to be be-headed when i was in iran couple years back , my friends rescued me , i was taken to a "brother's" home for "a treat" until my real friends came in for my rescue telling me i was about to be beheaded by the radicals if i were gone with them , why ?????????

    I am a gay , & a Christian , very good , now i will wait until america bombs the fuck out of iran sooner

    i have no respect for muslims of any kind all are really the same , until they follow the ALLAH,asshole
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    Feb 08, 2013 10:22 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidI haven't watched any vids in this thread, but I remember one of the first atrocities I saw: the beheading of Nicholas Berg. That boy was beautiful, and totally bewildered by what was happening to him. I watched innocent; I emerged changed. There is something about seeing another group of humans treat a human like they would a goat at Eid....it changed me.

    Death to all who think that way....a horrible, meat grinder death that lingers....I wish suffering upon them. icon_sad.gif


    Ahhh... I feel very sad icon_sad.gif , almost left me in tears after watching that video(2nd one)...
    Barbaric
    From the bottom of my heart I hope there is a better future ahead...for people like them...
    We should all unite & condemn...
    Those murderers are weak,they don't know what love is, they have to be taught how to love!
    They are in Grandiose delusion of "Whatever they do is right"

    “The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong."
    -Mahatma Gandhi
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    Feb 08, 2013 10:28 AM GMT
    Zeriel said

    I am a gay , & a Christian , very good , now i will wait until america bombs the fuck out of iran sooner

    i have no respect for muslims of any kind all are really the same , until they follow the ALLAH,asshole



    How can you say you are Christian when Bible says "forgive the sinner"?
    & you are showing disrespect towards Muslims though some of them did horrible crimes!
    Don't take it as offensive...
  • Laurence

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    Feb 08, 2013 12:30 PM GMT
    Duh!

    The first video has a man in a hood knelt down as the first still. Chances are the video isn't going to end well.

    So you're a fool to watch it if you're going to get all squemish about it.

    The world is full of nasty people.

    Accept that and try to live your life the best you can and other educate people about equality and diversity.

    Thanks metta8 as usual for the info.

    Lozx

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    Feb 08, 2013 1:27 PM GMT
    the Muslims will need to learn how not to support extremists among them who think God is well pleased with bashing their kids heads in with swords or cutting them with razors to get his attention.

    Or blowing up bus loads of people, or "honor killing" girls who go outside without being covered from head to toe.

    Provably we are several centuries away from LGBT acceptance in mainstream Islam on account of the current craziness that is in place.
  • metta

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    Feb 08, 2013 5:01 PM GMT
    I will not watch those videos. I'm aware of some of the things the extremists have done and continue to do.

    Not all Muslims are extremists. I don't know what the statistics are but I have known some very kind and loving Muslims over the years....ones that also support marriage equality and equal rights for all. I don't fear that the Muslim religion is growing as long as it is mostly the non-violent ones. I don't fear Muslims any more than I fear Christians.

    Yes, there are powerful extremist groups around the World that have misused the Koran. But that does not make all Muslims something to be feared.

    I will say that I have seen many of my Christian friends express the same fear. It makes me wonder if the Christian churches are teaching their congregations to fear Muslims, which would not surprise me after how many of them were teaching them to fear Buddhists. Telling them that they worship many Gods which is not true.
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    Feb 08, 2013 5:26 PM GMT
    Lol Islam is growing because all those countries inthe Middle East dont belive in birthcontrol and men have 4 wives each with like 10 kids per wive. If you are gay or a religious minority then do not go to those countries and if you are therethen hide your identity (Life must be preserved.)


    I hate religion all together although Muslim immigrants are the worst.
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    Feb 08, 2013 5:36 PM GMT
    Turkey is 96% Muslim, but secular, homosexuality is legal there and there are gay pride parades in cities like Istanbul and Ankara. Also, the major left-leaning opposition parties in Turkey support gay marriage. Albania and Bosnia are also Muslim countries in Europe where homosexuality is legal, also Albania and Bosnia both allow gays to serve in the military, and both prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation. There are also some other Muslim majority countries in Africa and Asia where homosexuality is legal, not every Muslim country has laws against it although most in the Middle East have them, but laws like that are also in some Christian countries and were commonplace in America and Europe not that long ago. So no, I don't think it will take a very long time to change policies in these Middle Eastern and Muslim countries, as things have changed greatly in America, eventually homosexuality will be legal in all these countries, and international pressure will continue to mount on these countries to drop their backwards laws, and social change will occur among the new generation.

    There is plenty of extreme homophobia by Christians in the world as well as extreme homophobia by Muslims. There are Muslims in the world who support secularism and Christians who want theocracy.

    Also US foreign policy has supported Islamists in the past. Afghanistan was secular before the US supported the Islamist mujahideen in the 80s that later would become the Taliban government after the factions of the mujahideen went to war with each other for control. The US also has had an alliance for decades with countries like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, which are theocracies with very extreme laws.
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    Feb 08, 2013 8:50 PM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    pr0cess saidYour becoming like your enemy, evil and heinous. You sound vulgar and promote hate in the air and obviously lost hope and faith somewhere.

    Really? I missed the part where he kidnapped a muslim (p.o.s.) and planned on beheading him. icon_confused.gificon_rolleyes.gif

    As far as I'm concerned, if every muslim was slaughtered today, tomorrow would be much better day. No amount of namby-pamby "ooo, but some of them are good...they're not all evil!" excuses is likely to change the contempt I have for that cult.


    There was someone in 1930's Germany who said the same things about another group of people. I hope you don't actually mean what you say here. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 08, 2013 8:51 PM GMT
    http://www.gaychristian101.com/Kill-Gays.html

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    Unfortunately non-Muslims feel and lecture about killing gaysicon_exclaim.gif
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    Feb 08, 2013 9:14 PM GMT

    Zeriel, In your profile under 'About Me' you mention the following ...
    ZerielI'm more keen on the Technical side ( Computer ,gadgets ,etc)
    not a racist nor a religion debater (so color of the skin or a religion pays no big deal 4 me)
    Anyone who knows how to talk & initiate a conversation can hit me up!


    You might wanna change that before debating and posting the contraryicon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 08, 2013 10:19 PM GMT
    yourname2000 saidThe only reason to "embrace" a muslim is to pat him down for a bomb-vest.


    Who I am surprised at this^^^

    The extremists who are being discussed in this thread are a very, very small part of all the Muslims of the world. I have dear friends who are Muslim, and true Islam, just like true Christianity, tends to be a religion that spreads good feelings rather than harmful feelings.

    All religions can become corrupted and can be used to hurt others. But you can't generalize about all of Islam in this way! It just spreads more hate.
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    Feb 08, 2013 10:21 PM GMT
    ALSO NEVER post videos like that without warning. I didn't watch them. But that's only because I had a good idea what was going to happen. You really can't subject people to something like that unless they know what they are getting themselves into. It can be psychologically traumatic and triggering.
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 08, 2013 10:37 PM GMT
    Those videos have officially traumatized me. Those people are sick!! Where is Obama with the drones?? They need to be stopped before anyone else is beheaded for being gay.

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    Feb 08, 2013 10:40 PM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    JerseyJames75 said
    yourname2000 saidThe only reason to "embrace" a muslim is to pat him down for a bomb-vest.


    Who I am surprised at this^^^

    The extremists who are being discussed in this thread are a very, very small part of all the Muslims of the world. I have dear friends who are Muslim, and true Islam, just like true Christianity, tends to be a religion that spreads good feelings rather than harmful feelings.

    All religions can become corrupted and can be used to hurt others. But you can't generalize about all of Islam in this way! It just spreads more hate.

    You have sex in airport washrooms. Your point is moot. icon_lol.gif



    (And yeah, gimme the button that kills every last one of them.....I'll press it ten times, just to be sure. icon_wink.gif )


    With all do respect, changing the topic and cracking a joke (albeit funny) about my sex life doesn't take away from the offensiveness of your comment.

    MUSLIMS are generally good, warm, kind people. The one's in those videos are FAR FROM the majority.
  • metta

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    Feb 08, 2013 10:45 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidThose videos have officially traumatized me. Those people are sick!! Where is Obama with the drones?? They need to be stopped before anyone else is beheaded for being gay.

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    We need to start in Honduras where US $ is used to pay for the guns used to kill GLBT people.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3005444
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    Feb 08, 2013 11:24 PM GMT
    yourname2000 said"due"


    har har har... I made a typo.
    Stop being bigoted! You do no one good with a mind like that.

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    Feb 08, 2013 11:25 PM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    JerseyJames75 said
    yourname2000 saidThe only reason to "embrace" a muslim is to pat him down for a bomb-vest.


    Who I am surprised at this^^^

    The extremists who are being discussed in this thread are a very, very small part of all the Muslims of the world. I have dear friends who are Muslim, and true Islam, just like true Christianity, tends to be a religion that spreads good feelings rather than harmful feelings.

    All religions can become corrupted and can be used to hurt others. But you can't generalize about all of Islam in this way! It just spreads more hate.

    You have sex in airport washrooms. Your point is moot. icon_lol.gif



    (And yeah, gimme the button that kills every last one of them.....I'll press it ten times, just to be sure. icon_wink.gif )


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    Feb 09, 2013 12:07 AM GMT
    liberal-logic-liberal-hypocriy-politics-

    Adolf Hitler was raised by a Catholic father and a devout Catholic mother; he ceased to participate in the sacraments after childhood and supported the Deutsche Christen church which rejected the Hebrew origins of the Gospel.

    Will I go ahaid and think that all Catholics are as sick as himicon_question.gif