squatting with the pussy pad?

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    Feb 10, 2013 12:01 AM GMT
    I just started working out and have no traps yet to cushion the discomfort of the bar. I read that it hinders your form though... Should I use the bar pad, or use lighter weights until I hopefully get used to it? Or start with the bar pad and ditch it when I become less of a pussy lol
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    Feb 10, 2013 12:02 AM GMT
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  • highforthis

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    Feb 10, 2013 12:05 AM GMT
    I and everyone I see at the gym uses it, though my gym also happens to be in the middle of the gay village. icon_lol.gif
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 10, 2013 12:07 AM GMT
    Just be less of a pussy right now and put that bar across your shoulders. You're an ox, you're a beast, you're an unstoppable machine.... Oh, wait, you're already hidden. NM.icon_smile.gif
  • highforthis

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    Feb 10, 2013 12:16 AM GMT
    dunno what some gays have against hidden/closeted guys. Weren't we all at some point?
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 10, 2013 12:20 AM GMT
    highforthis saiddunno what some gays have against hidden/closeted guys. Weren't we all at some point?


    I don't think it means he's closeted.icon_confused.gif

    Btw, McQueen suggested putting a "too" in your name, to make it toohighforthis, and I second that, lolol.icon_smile.gif
  • highforthis

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    Feb 10, 2013 12:30 AM GMT
    Ok, then what are you inferring then? Cuz I see tons of forumers like you who seem to take issue with hidden profiles.
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 10, 2013 12:42 AM GMT
    highforthis saidOk, then what are you inferring then? Cuz I see tons of forumers like you who seem to take issue with hidden profiles.


    I think it means he's embarrassed by his question.

    OP, if you're reading this, there's no reason to be shy. It's just RJ.icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 10, 2013 12:46 AM GMT
    The answers seem to have nothing to do with the question, did the OP edit his post?

    Anyway, it doesn't really matter about the pad, I only got rid of it a couple of months ago.

    More than half of people do squats wrong (source: I made it up) but whether or not you use the pad is not a big part of that (whether or not your knees go past your toes is a big part of that).
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    Feb 10, 2013 1:15 AM GMT
    highforthis saidOk, then what are you inferring then? Cuz I see tons of forumers like you who seem to take issue with hidden profiles.
    The issue with hidden profiles has nothing to do with the individual''s personal real life decisions concerning coming out, personal issues, etc. Anyone who puts their profile on hidden (and still continues to post) makes themselves more trouble to handle by other members. You don't know who that is, you have to quote them just to see who the member is, if they're trolling you can't put them on ignore. They are neither here nor there, it's like they want to be here but in no way that is graspable to others.
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 10, 2013 1:29 AM GMT
    Squatting With the Pussy Pad should be the name of a band.icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 10, 2013 1:33 AM GMT
    I still use the manta ray. If some troglodyte thinks it's "pussy," fuckem.

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  • IamEvan

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    Feb 10, 2013 1:49 AM GMT
    ditch the pussy pad. i tried using one for a while. my form is much better without it. it takes a while to learn where to place the bar so it sits comfortably but you will get it with experience.
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    Feb 10, 2013 5:15 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidI still use the manta ray. If some troglodyte thinks it's "pussy," fuckem.



    This post is full of zoological references!

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    Feb 10, 2013 5:21 AM GMT
    Nabisco said, " Anyone who puts their profile on hidden (and still continues to post) makes themselves more trouble to handle by other members. You don't know who that is, you have to quote them just to see who the member is, if they're trolling you can't put them on ignore."

    True. This is something Admin should address.
  • ASHDOD

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    Feb 10, 2013 11:27 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidI still use the manta ray. If some troglodyte thinks it's "pussy," fuckem.

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    +1
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Feb 10, 2013 12:17 PM GMT
    The longer we lift, the more stress we put on our joints. The stronger we grow the more pressure an Olympic bar puts on your spine, with particular concern for the C5 disc in men over 40. The statistics of protruding, bulging or ruptured C5 in lifters over 50 is substantial, and thinking forward is not something serious lifters can ever start too soon, in my opinion. Strong thick traps don't offset this pressure, and so preventative measures are perfectly acceptable if the form and function of the movement isn't compromised.
    Not acceptable in competition power lifting. Perfectly acceptable in bodybuilding training. Anyone who says otherwise is a douche.
    If somebody squawks shit about how real lifters don't do it, point them to this unit invented by former Mr. Olympia Frank Zane, who created it for the very reasons stated above.
    http://frankzane.com/Frank%20Zane%20Leg%20Blaster.pdf
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    Feb 10, 2013 12:24 PM GMT
    When I saw "pushy pad" I thought of something completely different.

    Then I thought "wrong site"
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    Feb 10, 2013 12:26 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidJust be less of a pussy right now and put that bar across your shoulders. You're an ox, you're a beast, you're an unstoppable machine.... Oh, wait, you're already hidden. NM.icon_smile.gif
    rr thats a turn on lol icon_redface.gif
  • GWriter

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    Feb 10, 2013 4:42 PM GMT
    MuscleComeBack saidThe longer we lift, the more stress we put on our joints. The stronger we grow the more pressure an Olympic bar puts on your spine, with particular concern for the C5 disc in men over 40. The statistics of protruding, bulging or ruptured C5 in lifters over 50 is substantial, and thinking forward is not something serious lifters can ever start too soon, in my opinion. Strong thick traps don't offset this pressure, and so preventative measures are perfectly acceptable if the form and function of the movement isn't compromised.
    Not acceptable in competition power lifting. Perfectly acceptable in bodybuilding training. Anyone who says otherwise is a douche.
    If somebody squawks shit about how real lifters don't do it, point them to this unit invented by former Mr. Olympia Frank Zane, who created it for the very reasons stated above.
    http://frankzane.com/Frank%20Zane%20Leg%20Blaster.pdf


    I'm very impressed with the authoritative tone of this post. (I especially like the finesse of "anyone who disagrees with me is a douche.") So can you enlighten me? I googled "squat vertebrae c5" and found almost nothing. Where do you come up with "substantial statistics" on this alleged problem? C5 is the fifth cervical vertebrae, i.e. the lower part of the neck. I was taught by an excellent weightlifting coach -- and every strength coach I am aware of teaches the same thing -- that the bar should NEVER rest on the neck, for obvious reasons. It must be below the "lump" where C7 fuses with the first thoracic vertebrae.

    I'm over forty, and while my traps are not enormously strong or thick, that is where I rest the bar. I squat three plates and have never noticed any particular stress on C5 or any other part of my neck, which is well away from the bar.

    Perhaps you could clarify?

    Btw, Musclecomeback, I saw Frank Zane at the Arnold Expo two years ago and he looked like shit. You could not tell at all that he had once been a world-class bodybuilder. It was impossible to avoid concluding that drugs were a major part of his success. So I don't really consider him an authority based on his past Olympia status (he could be very knowledgeable for other reasons, of which I am not aware.)
  • Medjai

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    Feb 10, 2013 4:48 PM GMT
    I have never used a pad. It hurt for a bit, but do shrugs for a few weeks with some good weight and you'll be padded in no time.
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    Feb 10, 2013 4:51 PM GMT
    I thought OP was talking about some kind of cushioned seat that catches you when you squat. icon_lol.gif Which I would not recommend!
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    Feb 10, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
    highforthis saidOk, then what are you inferring then? Cuz I see tons of forumers like you who seem to take issue with hidden profiles.


    That's tells you something, doesn't it?
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    Feb 10, 2013 5:19 PM GMT
    use it if you feel you have better form and are more comfortable.
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Feb 10, 2013 5:31 PM GMT
    GWriter said
    MuscleComeBack saidThe longer we lift, the more stress we put on our joints. The stronger we grow the more pressure an Olympic bar puts on your spine, with particular concern for the C5 disc in men over 40. The statistics of protruding, bulging or ruptured C5 in lifters over 50 is substantial, and thinking forward is not something serious lifters can ever start too soon, in my opinion. Strong thick traps don't offset this pressure, and so preventative measures are perfectly acceptable if the form and function of the movement isn't compromised.
    Not acceptable in competition power lifting. Perfectly acceptable in bodybuilding training. Anyone who says otherwise is a douche.
    If somebody squawks shit about how real lifters don't do it, point them to this unit invented by former Mr. Olympia Frank Zane, who created it for the very reasons stated above.
    http://frankzane.com/Frank%20Zane%20Leg%20Blaster.pdf


    I'm very impressed with the authoritative tone of this post. (I especially like the finesse of "anyone who disagrees with me is a douche.") So can you enlighten me? I googled "squat vertebrae c5" and found almost nothing. Where do you come up with "substantial statistics" on this alleged problem? C5 is the fifth cervical vertebrae, i.e. the lower part of the neck. I was taught by an excellent weightlifting coach -- and every strength coach I am aware of teaches the same thing -- that the bar should NEVER rest on the neck, for obvious reasons. It must be below the "lump" where C7 fuses with the first thoracic vertebrae.

    I'm over forty, and while my traps are not enormously strong or thick, that is where I rest the bar. I squat three plates and have never noticed any particular stress on C5 or any other part of my neck, which is well away from the bar.

    Perhaps you could clarify?

    Btw, Musclecomeback, I saw Frank Zane at the Arnold Expo two years ago and he looked like shit. You could not tell at all that he had once been a world-class bodybuilder. It was impossible to avoid concluding that drugs were a major part of his success. So I don't really consider him an authority based on his past Olympia status (he could be very knowledgeable for other reasons, of which I am not aware.)


    From your profile: Update 4/7/12: I hope this profile doesn't seem like I'm bragging (as has been suggested to me).... I'm just sharing my interests. I'm actually a very relaxed, nonjudgmental guy.

    Really?

    The c5 concern is something the physicians I train and the referring orthopedists and chiropractors who send me clients have advised me on, and something a few staff in my CSCS training reinforced. I've met and seen Frank many times and my opinion of him is that he is in great condition and a capable and admirable professional. Congrats on squatting 315 pain free. Keep us posted.