Va. Senate OKs House version of bill that allows discrimination in college clubs

  • metta

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    Feb 12, 2013 6:10 PM GMT
    Va. Senate OKs House version of bill that allows discrimination in college clubs

    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/02/va-senate-oks-house-version-of-bill-that-allows-discrimination-in-college-clubs/
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    Feb 12, 2013 6:40 PM GMT
    Another bill to take us backwards in time and legalize discrimination with taxpayer money, compliments of the Republicans, as always. icon_razz.gif
  • Destinharbor

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    Feb 12, 2013 8:34 PM GMT
    You'd think even Republicans would get tired of always being total assholes. And Virginians should get their act together and start acting civilized. With all the DC suburbs and UVA and Richmond, you'd think a more progressive attitude could be politically engineered. Same with North Carolina and Georgia.
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    Feb 12, 2013 8:48 PM GMT
    Didn't the Republicans learn anything from the 2012 state and national elections?
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    Feb 12, 2013 8:51 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidYou'd think even Republicans would get tired of always being total assholes. And Virginians should get their act together and start acting civilized. With all the DC suburbs and UVA and Richmond, you'd think a more progressive attitude could be politically engineered. Same with North Carolina and Georgia.


    Dude, we're trying. This is a state in flux. One significant problem is that the electoral map is rigged against the major population centers, and thus, the Democrats - the Lieutenant Governor (kudos where kudos are due) just rejected an attempt to make it worse.
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    Feb 12, 2013 8:59 PM GMT
    mileshelvetica saidDidn't the Republicans learn anything from the 2012 state and national elections?


    No, they didn't, but that's okay b/c it will only hurt them in the long run. Besides, I enjoy watching these assholes shoot themselves in the foot.
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    Feb 12, 2013 9:15 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidThere is a sharp divide in Virginia politics and it runs---like the weather lines---right through Spotsylvania County and the city of Fredericksburg.


    The Republicans have clear control of the state house, the senate is split 50/50. So if even one Democrat splits off in the Senate the Republicans can do what they want. Or even if one doesn't - the Lt. Governor breaks senate ties, though he has been remarkably judicious in refusing to push through some of the worst Republican stuff.
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    Feb 12, 2013 9:20 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
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    Aristoshark saidThere is a sharp divide in Virginia politics and it runs---like the weather lines---right through Spotsylvania County and the city of Fredericksburg.


    The Republicans have clear control of the state house, the senate is split 50/50. So if even one Democrat splits off in the Senate the Republicans can do what they want. Or even if one doesn't - the Lt. Governor breaks senate ties, though he has been remarkably judicious in refusing to push through some of the worst Republican stuff.

    Virginia politics - a place where someone like Bill Bolling is considered a moderate. Bolling, the party hack from Hanover County, who never met a piece of logrolling he wouldn't do.


    Instead of "Virginia is for lovers," the motto should be, "We're not quite as bad as Alabama, Mississippi or Texas." icon_razz.gif
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    Feb 12, 2013 9:24 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidYeah? We're talking about a state that almost elected Oliver North to the Senate. it took John Warner persuading Marshall Coleman to enter the race as an independent/sacrificial lamb to split the right-wing vote in order to keep North out. Warner may have been a Republican, but he was in many ways a class act.


    Oh good lord, we have two Democratic U.S. senators and the state voted for Obama. Things have changed a little.

    I agree that John Warner was a (relatively for a politician) class act, but he weren't no rocket scientist. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 12, 2013 9:41 PM GMT
    It's still a great state. If you're going to blame any one guy for this result, it should be Gerry Mandering. That guy's all over the map.
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    Feb 12, 2013 9:57 PM GMT

    ...I wonder what it cost in terms of taxpayer dollars paying for politician and staff wages for that committee-ing and tabling and voting in that bill?


    Trumpeting of fiscal restraint until they get in, then no fiscal restraint, just expensive social engineering to create or maintain an unequal society.

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    Feb 12, 2013 10:08 PM GMT
    Man, I am so glad I left Virginia 23 years ago.

    Only recently have I come to realize what a truly stifling and bigoted place it is and what role its fierce oppression played in my own self-esteem.

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    Feb 12, 2013 10:17 PM GMT
    Will the South ever change?

    I doubt it.
  • coolarmydude

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    Feb 13, 2013 3:22 AM GMT
    I foresee this getting struck down in the state Supreme Court. Stay tuned...
  • sportsguysd7

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    Feb 13, 2013 4:26 AM GMT
    Destinharbor saidYou'd think even Republicans would get tired of always being total assholes. And Virginians should get their act together and start acting civilized. With all the DC suburbs and UVA and Richmond, you'd think a more progressive attitude could be politically engineered. Same with North Carolina and Georgia.


    There's still a lot of red areas. You don't have to go far from Charlottesville or Richmond to meet a lot of 'good ole boys'. But it's certainly turned purple/blue in statewide races.
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    Feb 13, 2013 7:09 AM GMT
    Most of the state is pretty damn rural outside of NOVA, Virginia Beach/Hampton Roads, Richmond, Roanoke, and random pockets of college towns scattered about. It's always weird to look at an electoral map of VA and see like 9/10 of the state covered in red with a few spots of blue. But those few spots of blue are very densely populated. It was kind of interesting to see the results back in my hometown from the recent election where Spotsylvania Co. and Stafford Co. were solidly red while Fredericksburg was solidly blue.

    I figure Virginia's political identity crisis is only going to continue as it has been for a good while now.

    Needless to say, I think most college student organizations don't give a shit who's in their club as long as they pay their fucking dues, lol.
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    Feb 13, 2013 7:59 AM GMT
    What a mess.. lol Jesus!
  • hebrewman

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    Feb 13, 2013 8:43 AM GMT
    i grew up in northern virginia, mclean, actually. my sister lives in lynchburg. what a difference between the two. virginia today is almost like two states... the state of northern virginia and the rest of it. with gov. 'VAGINAL PROBE' and his henchman 'the kooch', nothing is going to change. what a total embarrassment.
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    Feb 13, 2013 12:02 PM GMT
    hebrewman saidi grew up in northern virginia, mclean, actually. my sister lives in lynchburg. what a difference between the two. virginia today is almost like two states... the state of northern virginia and the rest of it. with gov. 'VAGINAL PROBE' and his henchman 'the kooch', nothing is going to change. what a total embarrassment.


    Truth. I live in NoVa, and it's pretty liberal. The rest of the state, not so much. Overall, the state is split pretty evenly in terms of politics with both extremes running things at all levels. Right now, the Republicans have a slight edge at the state level with a batshit crazy AG and Gubernatorial candidate, Ken Cuccinelli, at the forefront. It's a bit of a clusterfuck because it's all us vs them in terms of liberals and conservatives and NoVa and the rest of Va.
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    Feb 13, 2013 1:02 PM GMT
    The fun thing about this is it was a giant waste of time. One look from the Supreme Court and this will get tossed out.

    Eventually State level legislators are going to remember that Federal law supersedes any of this stupid shit they think they can do.
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    Feb 13, 2013 5:23 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidYeah? We're talking about a state that almost elected Oliver North to the Senate. it took John Warner persuading Marshall Coleman to enter the race as an independent/sacrificial lamb to split the right-wing vote in order to keep North out. Warner may have been a Republican, but he was in many ways a class act.


    Truly a shame that we never had Ollie North in the senate!
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    Feb 13, 2013 5:36 PM GMT
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    Needless to say, I think most college student organizations don't give a shit who's in their club as long as they pay their fucking dues, lol. [/quote]

    this in a nutshell lol

    as far as i know, at my school it's relatively easy to start an organization. if someone were to be rejected from a club he/she could effectively make another. dont know how feasible it would be at VA schools, but i cant imagine it would be that difficult