Corporate spin, Policy Making, and WORLD DESTRUCTION!

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    Oct 03, 2008 4:50 PM GMT
    Just a little hyperbole to drum up some views of this video. ;)



    An interesting short video that highlights how science is bought by corporations (or cherry picked) to introduce doubt into the minds of the american people - so that big business can continue, unchecked, doing whatever it is that makes them money. As an example, research found in the 1950's that cigarette smoking is tied to lung cancer - but it took almost 40 years for the evidence to outweigh the corporate spin, and result in policies mandating full disclosure for consumers' health... This video connects the same spin machine to casting doubt on the evidence of the human impact on global warming - a corporate purchase that has the additional cost of f'in up the planet.

    Somewhat relevant to the debate last night re: the causes of global warming - did it seem kind of paradoxical that Palin suggested there's something we can "fix" or address re: global warming, but continues to deny that humans contribute to it? I mean, if it's just "cyclical" in nature, is she suggesting that we actually could be powerful enough to "fix" it? And if that's the case, doesn't that mean that she would have to admit that we're also powerful enough to have contributed to it..? AND, if there's anything to "fix," I would think that insinuates that we did something to "break" it.

    As a good ol' fashioned hahkey mahm, maybe she's been overly influenced by her own party's dumbing down corporate spin, and religious "end days" blindness. A talented critical thinker who could be President!

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    Oct 03, 2008 6:18 PM GMT
    Sarah Palin is a loon.
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    Oct 04, 2008 6:48 AM GMT
    It's called avoiding the long-term issues and focusing on stuff that result in instant accolades (and hopefully reelections)... such as wars.
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    Oct 05, 2008 1:40 AM GMT
    One more reason I don't want to come back after I go.

    Oh, I probably will. Either because I HAVE to, or because, once again, I'll think I'm hot shit and can raise the level of global consciousness.

    Anybody seen 'The Corporation'?
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    Oct 05, 2008 5:12 AM GMT
    McCain and Palin are the End Days. Vote for them and your days will end.
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    Oct 05, 2008 7:03 AM GMT
    That's fucked up. Of course I knew it anyway. The way of business seems to be that the correctness or ethics of a matter is measured by how profitable something is. Yes, unrestrained greed.

    Here is an interesting hour long radio (NPR) program that details the rise and falls of the finance/housing market. It is worth listening to if you have an hour or so. It explains how greed and easy money burned us.
    an hour long episode of This American Life from NPR.
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    Oct 05, 2008 7:43 AM GMT
    The weather is the ultimate bogey man. People have been worshiping it and fearing it since people have existed.

    I don't like people who want to take choices away from me (like the anti-tobacco lobby) any more than I like people trying to sell me something I don't want or need (like the tobacco lobby).

    In my junior high school social studies class in Texas, back in the seventies, our social studies textbook had illustrations of Los Angeles circa 1995 where people wore gas-masks, etc. I remember being terrified by those photos.

    Living in LA for 13 years I watched the number of smog events steadily go down every year. Now there are fewer events in the city than at any time in its modern history (it's history as a big city).

    Climate change is an easy sell. All you have to do is sell something big, costly to research, and outrageously impossible to predict. In other words, the product is fear, and it sells.

    My worry is not about whether or not global warming is real, my worry is that disproportionate attention to this issue takes attention away from real problems in the world.

    For example, the single biggest issue facing humanity is clean water. Billions of people don't have clean water. After that Malaria seems to be the biggest issue.

    Also, I work in the so-called "developing world", and it bothers me immensely that the occidental world seems to have complete double standards when it comes to Asia.

    My fear about climate change is that it diverts attention away from very serious problems.

    The converse to that is that this extreme attention is promoting a growth in technology and technology investment that I expect to produce disruptive technological change in the next decade or less. It appears to me that men like Vinod Khosla will yet again change the face of the world http://www.khoslaventures.com/

    If you want to see a film clip that is truly sobering try this one



    These are the people who control all of the trash in one nation. People recycle and they put that trash in the ground, in the water, etc.

    The same people do the same thing in America (why do you think Tony Soprana is a waste disposal consultant?).

    That isn't an argument not to recycle, it is just sobering to know what is going on after those bags go out the door of your home.

    All I am saying is that these are complex issues. Reducing climatology (what it used to be called) to a bumper sticker slogan does nothing more than convince people that the incandescent lightbulb is their enemy, without addressing any real problem.

    Terry








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    Oct 05, 2008 8:12 AM GMT
    ursamajor saidLiving in LA for 13 years I watched the number of smog events steadily go down every year. Now there are fewer events in the city than at any time in its modern history (it's history as a big city).
    But this decrease was due to regulations put in place to help .. and they worked ..
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles#Environmental_issuespollution accumulates over many consecutive days. Issues of air quality in Los Angeles and other major cities led to the passage of early national environmental legislation, including the Clean Air Act. More recently, the state of California has led the nation in working to limit pollution by mandating low emission vehicles.[30] As a result, pollution levels have dropped in recent decades. The number of Stage 1 smog alerts has declined from over 100 per year in the 1970s to almost zero in the new millennium.
    That would be a reason to take the environmental issues seriously. Because perhaps we could do something to help.

    I don't know who Vinod Khoslo is or understand what that has to do with this. Can you elaborate?