Do you believe in love?

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    Oct 03, 2008 6:34 PM GMT
    How many of you believe in true love? Fairy tale romance has seems like it has always been geared towards heterosexual women...from childhood Disney films to Shakespearean sonnets. True I enjoy TLA films, Here! network dramas and gay romance novels, but the pop-culture doesn't incorporate or idealize romance between two men or two women. Let me know what you think.
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    Oct 03, 2008 6:42 PM GMT
    luc21_83 saidHow many of you believe in true love? Fairy tale romance has seems like it has always been geared towards heterosexual women...from childhood Disney films to Shakespearean sonnets. True I enjoy TLA films, Here! network dramas and gay romance novels, but the pop-culture doesn't incorporate or idealize romance between two men or two women. Let me know what you think.


    Huey Lewis asked the same question in the 80's. icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 03, 2008 7:21 PM GMT
    Right...circa 1982. I wasn't born yet, but that's a funny observation.icon_lol.gif

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    Oct 03, 2008 7:28 PM GMT
    YES, I have had the great privilege to have experienced very powerful, mutual, true love and there is nothing better .... truly something to aspire for and I hope it finds me again.

    --- Ron
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    Oct 03, 2008 7:50 PM GMT
    What type of love are you asking about?

    During a relationship couples can grow and the love change. Hopefully for a deeper and more intimate love. Romance is great and I really enjoy it, but the deep love of know you are loved warts and all for better or worse is awesome and the same goes the other way. I love my partner for who he, regardless.
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    Oct 03, 2008 8:03 PM GMT
    I guess I mean the the lose-yourself-in-the-moment, forget about everything else, quit your job and fly to Paris kind of love. I'm talking happily ever after shit, where cheating and petty dating crap is just out the window.

    Love being the be all, end all, sacred romance that saves you from the doom and gloom of reality.

    Is that real?
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    Oct 03, 2008 8:27 PM GMT
    luc21_83 saidIs that real?


    No.

    Quitting your job, flying to Paris, and being whirled up in a torrent of lovey emotional ecstasy is a temporary situation. Actually living with a person long term involves paying phone bills, fixing overflowing toilets, and the overwhelming banality of life.

    You can be madly, deeply in love with one guy for the rest of your life. It could happen. But statistically it isn't likely. And if it does it wont be faery tale romance the whole time. People fight, people grow apart, people grow back together. It is a life together, not a continual moment.

    Happy Hunting Romeo
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    Oct 03, 2008 8:42 PM GMT
    Well needless to say, I have never believed in this type of love, nor do I believe in love at first sight or any other little fantasy romance crap...but this is why I ask the question.

    It's like believing in ghosts...I don't know how to believe in something that is for the most part mythical.

    BTW, Mr.Zombie, I am moving to Buffalo in January. We will be neighbors.
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    Oct 04, 2008 6:41 AM GMT
    Yep. icon_cool.gif Kill me now.
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    Oct 04, 2008 7:56 AM GMT
    Yes.
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    Oct 04, 2008 8:02 AM GMT
    MunchingZombie said
    luc21_83 saidIs that real?


    No.

    Quitting your job, flying to Paris, and being whirled up in a torrent of lovey emotional ecstasy is a temporary situation. Actually living with a person long term involves paying phone bills, fixing overflowing toilets, and the overwhelming banality of life.

    You can be madly, deeply in love with one guy for the rest of your life. It could happen. But statistically it isn't likely. And if it does it wont be faery tale romance the whole time. People fight, people grow apart, people grow back together. It is a life together, not a continual moment.

    Happy Hunting Romeo


    What he said.
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    Oct 04, 2008 8:15 AM GMT
    I believe in love, but not how its described here from what I can tell...
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    Oct 04, 2008 8:33 AM GMT
    of course it's real. i've been there. when your entire being is consumed with the image, the smell and the taste of a man. he is all you can think of. you can't bear to be apart. all you want to do is be cuddled up naked together. you know exactly what he's thinking, you finish eachother's sentences. you laugh uncontrollably at the silliest things with him. life is wonderful. you notice the trees and the flowers and birdsong and just cannot understand why everyone else seems so miserable when you're so blissfully happy?

    also, all your friends and family pale into insignificance, who needs them? and frankly you make them vomit with your babyish puke making behaviour. you burn with lust and if he doesn't call or he has to go away, you feel sick to your stomach. it's unbearable. you can't concentrate on anything but thoughts of him. work is impossilbe. where is he, what's he up to, is he with someone else, does he really love you? you become ill with worry, your psychotic!

    am i glad i had it? yes. do i want to feel like that again? hell no! it's just exhausting!

    but i hope you get the chance. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 04, 2008 8:35 AM GMT
    oh, and i should have mentioned the sex. you can't get enough of it. god knows how many times a day, everywhere and anywhere. untill you're raw! icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 04, 2008 10:25 AM GMT
    you burn with lust and if he doesn't call or he has to go away, you feel sick to your stomach. it's unbearable. you can't concentrate on anything but thoughts of him. work is impossilbe. where is he, what's he up to, is he with someone else, does he really love you? you become ill with worry, your psychotic!

    am i glad i had it? yes. do i want to feel like that again? hell no! it's just exhausting!


    Yes, I experienced that too more than once. Damn right it's exhausting and draining, and worse when you don't know if he's experiencing the same. Then someone tells you to stop being stupid and snap the hell out of it or they'll smack you in the face.icon_redface.gif
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    Oct 04, 2008 3:16 PM GMT

    Hmmmmm. It's strange that you'd equate true love with fairy tale romance in your first two lines.
    There are a lot of fairy tales, some of them quite grim, so the comparison confuses without a particular story in mind.

    We've been in true love for 19 years, and we're no ghosts.
    (Well, not yet, and it will be interesting to see what that's like.)

    You said, "Love being the be all, end all, sacred romance that saves you from the doom and gloom of reality.

    Is that real? "

    ....and we say, loudly and happily, YES!
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    Oct 04, 2008 3:29 PM GMT
    Oh hell yeah I believe in love. Love is an amazing thing, a great emotional gift and one of the few truly free things we are offered in life. I don't know what I would do if I didn't have love in my life. Call me an idealist, but I think the fairytale love, though a bit stylized and exaggerated does exist to some extent.
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    Oct 04, 2008 3:37 PM GMT
    Devildog78 saidOh hell yeah I believe in love. Love is an amazing thing, a great emotional gift and one of the few truly free things we are offered in life. I don't know what I would do if I didn't have love in my life. Call me an idealist, but I think the fairytale love, though a bit stylized and exaggerated does exist to some extent.


    I totally agree. Nothing makes me more happy then the feeling of new love. icon_biggrin.gif That mushy, giddy feeling icon_redface.gif
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    Oct 04, 2008 3:44 PM GMT
    the love jack and ennis had in brokeback mountain was strong and undeniable, it's too bad it also destroyed two women's lives. but that's the closest we've seen to an all-out gay love story in mainstream movies in a long time
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    Oct 04, 2008 4:03 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie said
    luc21_83 saidIs that real?


    No.

    Quitting your job, flying to Paris, and being whirled up in a torrent of lovey emotional ecstasy is a temporary situation. Actually living with a person long term involves paying phone bills, fixing overflowing toilets, and the overwhelming banality of life.

    You can be madly, deeply in love with one guy for the rest of your life. It could happen. But statistically it isn't likely. And if it does it wont be faery tale romance the whole time. People fight, people grow apart, people grow back together. It is a life together, not a continual moment.

    Happy Hunting Romeo


    I do not believe in the overly romanticized version of love the way luc21_83 describes/suggests, however MunchingZombie's perspective I can 'bite' in to.
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    Oct 04, 2008 4:04 PM GMT
    What happened to all the cynics and bitchiness?

    You call yourselves gay! For shame!
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    Oct 04, 2008 7:06 PM GMT
    luc21_83 saidHow many of you believe in true love? Fairy tale romance has seems like it has always been geared towards heterosexual women...from childhood Disney films to Shakespearean sonnets. True I enjoy TLA films, Here! network dramas and gay romance novels, but the pop-culture doesn't incorporate or idealize romance between two men or two women. Let me know what you think.


    The real question is: why do you need pop-culture to validate same-sex romance?
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    Oct 04, 2008 7:18 PM GMT
    I believe in true love -- why is it so hard to believe someone can be so trusting and amazing?

    And if anyone wants to offer me some true love, I'll gladly accept!
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    Oct 04, 2008 7:20 PM GMT
    i do...when there are ppl out there who are with their best friend for life... people who are married for 50 years, people who need to have that specific person next to them to feel alive, people whos heart races every time that special someone walks thru the door, i sure do believe in it.
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    Oct 05, 2008 1:50 AM GMT
    I believe in infatuation, lust, and other forms of attachment.