An interesting proposition?

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    Oct 04, 2008 1:28 AM GMT
    The office I work in employs a number of college students as interns and some stay longer than others depending on the usual college and wok dynamics. We have one that has been in our office for 4 years and she is now a senior in her Art major, expecting to graduate in June 2009. We are good friends and talk all the time and have lunch and walk, etc. Good, PLATONIC friends.
    This past Monday, 9-29, she asked me if I would consider being a "model" for her class of 12. The modeling is nude for a drawing class..... She said she would need my decision by this coming Monday, 10-6. I have been in contact with the instructor and it is a legitimate offer.
    I am surprised and flattered to have been asked, but I had to ask her why she would ask me to be a nude model for her art class....I am not a 20 something, but a middle aged man, with a great body that is "hidden" under the excess skin of my weight loss. She knows my "story" and was there in our office from the start of my transformation, so she has watched my changes...
    She commented that the class is about sketching and drawing the human form, not about a "beauty contest" or a "peep show". She knows my level of personal confidence and comfort are much different now that they were 4 years ago, and that my patience and personality are exactly what they need in a nude model. She also said that when she mentioned me and my experience over the last 4 years, the class of 5 women and 7 men were all extremely interested in having me model for them and that I should bring in some of my “before” pictures to emphasize how dramatic my change has been. She said that they have had other nude models, but it is almost impossible to get a male model for some reason. They do pay about $80 for the 90 minutes.
    I am still undecided about doing it.
    On one side, I am flattered and this appeals to me on a number of different levels, and is definitely “a step outside of my normal box”. The other side is that I am still a bit modest and “self conscious” of my less than perfect build and the excess loose skin from my weight loss……The money isn’t even a consideration one way or the other. I laugh about my modesty, because in the gym locker room, I don’t care at all and will walk the entire locker room and the showers, sauna/steam rooms nude with my towel in hand. If I go out to the bars, after about 2 drinks I am half in the bag and ready to do lots of things naked! LOL! I guess it would be easier for me if it was a totally anonymous thing, where I didn’t know anyone and no one knew me, but I don’t have that option….so I come back to my personal comfort level……still undecided, but I am leaning towards doing it, just because it is something that has always been a “taboo” that scares me…you know the story about the “emperor’s new clothes” or the dream where you are nude in a room full of your bosses and peers…… maybe this is just one of those taboos that I need to face down and go through.
    Just curious if any of you have ever done any nude modeling for an art class and what your impressions were of the experience. If you have private pictures in your profile and they show you nude, is the experience and thought of doing nude modeling for drawing and posting nude photos of yourself the same?

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    Oct 04, 2008 1:38 AM GMT
    You know, you really do forget you're not wearing anything after a few minutes, particularly if you're changing and holding challenging poses. It sounds like you're got a group that's genuinely interested in you for artistic purposes, and that provides a comfort level that can make it a less intimidating experience. I'd say go for it!
  • Bunjamon

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    Oct 04, 2008 2:22 AM GMT
    You've certainly got nothing to lose. I say go for it.
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    Oct 04, 2008 2:28 AM GMT
    She is right, when I was working on my art degree we would do nude drawings or paintings all the time, but finding males to model is extremely diffacult.

    There is nothing sexual about the experience, the students look at the forms and the shapes more then the idea of a nude person (if that makes sense).

    Go for it, it is good for the future artists and it is kind of fun to look at the works after the students are done to see what they saw (which may be comletely different than what you imagined).
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    Oct 04, 2008 2:37 AM GMT
    go for it. it's completely non-sexual. you'll be viewed truly as an object - go look at your couch and that's how they'll be looking at you.

    and don't be self-conscious! they'll be drawing something REAL.
  • EricLA

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    Oct 04, 2008 3:32 AM GMT
    I agree. How many times does someone get this kind of offer. Yes, it's something that will take you out of your comfort zone, but really this sounds kind of fun. But I'd find it interesting to see what the artists come up with. Do it!

    And bring your camera and take pictures!!!
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    Oct 04, 2008 4:23 AM GMT
    Well.. I can give some advice from two different viewpoints. One.. I also used to be really heavy, and self conscious. After losing a lot of weight, and gaining a lot of self image, I can pretty much assume that I understand the battle you're going through..
    On the other hand, I'm also an art student, and have spent hours upon hours in classes with nude models, drawing the human form. So I've actually wondered about modeling myself, just because I've been exposed to it. So.. what I say is...

    DO IT!!

    .. the students in the class aren't going to judge you, or make you feel uncomfortable. Drawing the human form is something I love doing.. and the way you go about it, studying and carefully absorbing all the body has to offer.. it's very intimate, but not at all sexual. And having someone look at your body in a non-sexual way while still admiring it can be a real breath of fresh air.The students will nothing but appreciate you.

    Several models have told me that seeing the pictures afterward was really rewarding. I even had a girl ask me for a private session, so I could draw her, and she would have a picture to keep, just so she could commemorate the experience and have something physical to show for it.

    I think if you were offered the chance, you shouldn't pass it up.
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    Oct 04, 2008 4:31 AM GMT
    I agree, do it! I've modeled for artists before and you really do forget about the fact that your naked once you are up there. It's WORK holding a pose for 15 or 20 minutes at a time. Whenever I've done it, I've not only gotten paid but got some interesting sketches of me to (someday) hang up in my home. It will be a great experience. Go for it!
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    Oct 04, 2008 4:54 AM GMT
    just how much excess skin are we talking about here...

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    Oct 04, 2008 6:26 AM GMT
    Go for it mate, there not there to judge your body, but to learn from it.. you'll not be looked at as a sexual object but as a series of lines and shapes with shadows and lights the simple fact that your naked, will mean nothing!

  • Oct 04, 2008 6:53 AM GMT
    I say GO FOR IT!!! What an awesome oppurtunity to step out of your comfort zone!. I can see it now,we will all be watching the news of you getting hauled of to jail for indecent exposure cause you refused to put your clothes back on cause you ejoyed the Freedom so much! Have fun,wash your bits before and smile icon_razz.gif
  • GQjock

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    Oct 04, 2008 7:01 AM GMT
    This is a very self-affirming thing to do
    You're not only shedding your clothes but also any feelings of shame and negativity that you have of your own body
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    Oct 04, 2008 7:10 AM GMT
    I'm on the other end.. the same as your friend.

    I too am taking a drawing class on the human form... though our models won't be coming in till the end of the semester. We're working on hands right now.

    Trust me, they will not looking at your body in a critcal way... the way others at the gym/bar may view you and or even the way you might view yourself in the mirror. BELIEVE me... they will be looking at your body to see which shapes to draw and emphasize... which lines to draw in light or dark... your stance and overall form... the values of your skin (basically where your skin is light due to the lights and where it is dark as a result of cast shadows on your body.)

    If they think about you body in a more critical/non-artistic way... than they shouldn't be in that class to begin with!

    A true artist accepts all human forms... diveristy is great in art. If everyone looked like Brad Pitt... my drawing class would be BORING... I wouldn't learn anything new!

    Skinny, Large, Ugly, Beautiful, Old, Young, Hairy, Smooth, "pleasantly plump"... as my mom would say... ALL body types are welcome in a human form class!

    Ever look at the Rennisance paintings of women? Notice how a lot of them are larger than what we consider to be "beautiful" in today's standards? Well back then, larger people were thought to have been part of the "upper class." The Rennisance "school of though:" Overweight people were larger cause they ate more food... they ate more food cause they could afford it. Skinny people didn't eat as much because they were poor. (though back then they didn't know much about body types and metabloism lol)

    Anyways, take the compliment... Go to her class... earn money.... just stand BLOODY STILL! lol I'm sure they'll let you rest... just try to remember the position you were in haha.

    And don't worry about ur friend... who knows... if everything goes well you she may ask you to model for her in different positions... give her practise... or post your "new" job on craigslist. Artists are ALWAYS looking for nude models!

    good luck either way
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    Oct 04, 2008 7:21 AM GMT
    Oh...dont let them kid you....

    Humorous Pictures ... icon_lol.gif ... followed by years of therapy!
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    Oct 04, 2008 1:26 PM GMT
    Caslon7000 saidOh...dont let them kid you ... followed by years of therapy!

    Oh don't listen to him, hes just jealous hes not hot enough to get asked to pose in the nuddy..
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    Oct 04, 2008 1:42 PM GMT
    Do it! The hardest part is staying in the same pose for a length of time.
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    Oct 04, 2008 2:38 PM GMT
    Go for it! I had to take some life drawing classes last year for the course I was taking, and after the first couple poses you don't even realize you're looking at a nude person. The artists don't care what you look like, they're just trying to find the motion in your poses. Nothing to worry about, step out of that box! Have fun!
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    Oct 04, 2008 4:06 PM GMT
    Caslon7000 saidjust how much excess skin are we talking about here...

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    LOL!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!......Not THIS bad! LOL!!!
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    Oct 04, 2008 4:12 PM GMT
    Caslon7000 saidOh...dont let them kid you....

    Humorous Pictures ... icon_lol.gif ... followed by years of therapy!

    GASP!!!...... ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! STOP!...... LOL!!!!
    I can't take laughing over these pics!!!! LOL!!!
    Comic genius!!! CAS!!!
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    Oct 04, 2008 5:21 PM GMT
    Thanks to all of you for your supportive comments about the nude modeling proposition.
    I am almost certain that I WILL do the modeling.....too many positive comments from fellow RJ members to ignore! My friend that invited me has put this in a very positive and relaxed context and I actually met with her and the class and her instructor at a small tavern on Friday evening (last night) for an impromptu "meet and greet". The class is made of 5 women and 7 men, all are in their mid 20’s and are very chill and “artsy”: Truly, different from the very orderly and mechanical “engineer environment” that I work in. I enjoyed the change of pace and the refreshingly open-minded attitudes on everything! I definitely have something in common with their attitudes and am much more comfortable with the way they allow things to just “flow” and the way they work inside of that “flow” as opposed to engineers wanting to control and manipulate the flow in very exact and measured ways…..just a different philosophy and approach to life. In a vote of support from the class to convince me to do the modeling…they all took a vote at our table, and were all willing to themselves be nude while working on their draw of me…. I am truly touched by their willingness to make me more comfortable with the sessions. How can I say no? And yes, all of the students have all taken turns as models for their class, so they are all familiar with the feelings and situations……
    Thanks for making me look at this from another perspective!
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    Oct 04, 2008 6:44 PM GMT

    I'd make 'em all get naked too, just for the fun of it! XD
  • HotCoach

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    Oct 04, 2008 9:03 PM GMT
    I do figure modeling here in Sun Valley all the time. It's totally non-sexual and fun. Mostly older ladies but a few younger and an occasional male. I know all of them personally and see them all over town. But it is an interesting dynamic to be the only naked person in the room! Not hard work. Sometimes in a long reclining pose I fall asleep!. Keeping motionless is the hardest part. We do 7 minutes, then 15, 20 and finally 30. I usually bring a prop; Greek helmet, long pole like a javelin etc. I made one mistate when I brought some blue balls. Lots of remarks from the ladies!
    And what's with this under 40 towel thing in the locker room. I've commented on this phenomenon before. I think it's weird. And there is a name for it..gymnoscopaphobia = the fear of being SEEN nude!
    Remember the work "gym" in ancient Greek meant naked or nude because everyone there was. Way did we get so prudish?

    Wish I got $80. I get $20/hr.

    Go for it!
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    Oct 04, 2008 9:25 PM GMT
    I had an ex-BF who commissioned a portrait of himself. Actually he's having paintings done of himself all the time, quite wealthy, and IMHO, more than a little vain.

    And the artist (who's also done my portrait, BTW, so I guess I don't pass the vanity test, either) thought it should be a standing nude, evoking a Classical Greek pose. And my BF readily agreed.

    But he told me it was a struggle to keep from getting aroused in front of the artist, a 40-something married guy and the only other person present. Eventually the artist decided that doing him naked from the waist up would be better, and they started over. Whether my BF's inability to behave and stay soft was a factor in that decision I don't know.

    I was there for that second set of sittings, taking lots of photos to record the process. The basic pose was the same, except now he wore jeans but shirtless.

    He's closeted and thinks he comes across as very straight, and has rejected my suggestions that this portrait of him makes him look very gay (which he does a bit in real life; the artist is rather talented at capturing the inner person -- LOL!). He's had it shown in several exhibits, and I always cringed that he was unknowingly sabotaging his own closet game.

    Every gay guy to whom I've shown a pic of the painting, knowing neither him nor the story behind it, always says: "He's so gay!"

    Oh, well. So that's my story today about posing nude.