Alternatives to Whey protein

  • gooddude1583

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    Feb 15, 2013 3:33 AM GMT
    So I think I may be allergic to Whey protein. It occurred to me lately that a skin rash I've been having on and off and mucus in my throat all started when I began consuming whey protein on a regular basis. Are there any alternatives to Whey protein? What about creatine?
    Also, any chance anybody here experienced some allergic reactions while using whey protein?
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    Feb 15, 2013 3:52 AM GMT
    I'm allergic to all protein powders because they make my farts stink more than usual.

    But I do take creatine, a "sport" multivitamin, and occasionally take casein protein when I don't have time to eat properly.
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    Feb 15, 2013 4:48 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidI'm allergic to all protein powders because they make my farts stink more than usual.


    How do you know? You smell and compare farts?icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 15, 2013 7:02 AM GMT
    There are alternatives to whey protein. I wonder why you would be having this reaction? I assume that you're not having this reaction when you consume other dairy products? You may want to read the label of what your taking and see if maybe there is an added ingredient that may be causing your reaction.

    I can only use whey protein isolate because I cannot digest lactose. Not being able to digest certain proteins and sugars is not the same as being allergic to it.

    You can look for egg and soy proteins and see which ones work for you without an adverse reaction.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Feb 15, 2013 7:06 AM GMT
    i would say soy but if you do not want man boobs than stay away from that. they also make egg protein powder. why don't you try that one
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    Feb 15, 2013 7:17 AM GMT
    Soy protein and guys got a bad rap some time ago but numerous studies have refuted all that came out about its so called estrogen like effects.

    Soy has been proven to be just as effective a protein.

    I consume it on a daily basis - no man boobs here.
  • Medjai

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    Feb 15, 2013 7:18 AM GMT
    gayusasian82 saidHow do you know? You smell and compare farts?icon_lol.gif


    Excess or I digested protein can result in a bloom of gut bacteria that produce nitrogen and sulfur based waste. Makes for stinky farts.

    DudeInNOVA saidI can only use whey protein isolate because I cannot digest lactose. Not being able to digest certain proteins and sugars is not the same as being allergic to it.


    Wrong. An intolerance is the inability to process or digest a substance, usually resulting in discomfort and possibly digestive damage. An allergy is a systemic reaction resulting in an immune response, such as hives, rash, or anaphylaxis. They are very different.

    OP, have you tried whey isolate? It's much purer, and may help alleviate symptoms. Otherwise, there's a few options. Casein may still be fine, though it is dairy sourced. Also, soy. Don't worry about the estrogen thing, it isn't true. Check your local supplement store.

    BCAAs may be an option. They aren't a full amino acid compliment, but they'll help with repair. Pure amino acid supplements also exist if all else fails.

    Creatine is a whole different supplement, and is not a replacement for protein.
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    Feb 15, 2013 7:20 AM GMT
    Medjai saidWrong. An intolerance is the inability to process or digest a substance, usually resulting in discomfort and possibly digestive damage. An allergy is a systemic reaction resulting in an immune response, such as hives, rash, or anaphylaxis. They are very different.

    Um, that's what I said. You must have misread what I posted.
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    Feb 15, 2013 7:21 AM GMT
    DudeInNOVA said
    Medjai saidWrong. An intolerance is the inability to process or digest a substance, usually resulting in discomfort and possibly digestive damage. An allergy is a systemic reaction resulting in an immune response, such as hives, rash, or anaphylaxis. They are very different.

    Um, that's what I said. You must have misread what I posted.


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    Feb 15, 2013 7:22 AM GMT
    Medjai saidI missed the 'not'... icon_redface.gif it's late! I'm sorry!

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    Feb 15, 2013 7:24 AM GMT
    If you are using a concentrate protein, try switching to an Isolate protein.

    There are isolate proteins that are lactose free if you think that is the issue.
    Or you can try taking digestive enzymes with your Isolate protein to help break it down a little more efficiently.

    There is also that Carnivor protein that is supposed to be an Isolate from a beef source... Haven't looked too much into it, but that may be an option as well.

    Best of luck
  • Medjai

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    Feb 15, 2013 7:30 AM GMT
    DPrime saidIf you are using a concentrate protein, try switching to an Isolate protein.

    There are isolate proteins that are lactose free if you think that is the issue.
    Or you can try taking digestive enzymes with your Isolate protein to help break it down a little more efficiently.

    There is also that Carnivor protein that is supposed to be an Isolate from a beef source... Haven't looked too much into it, but that may be an option as well.

    Best of luck


    I've seen that! I wondered why you wouldn't just eat a steak...
  • tuffguyndc

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    Feb 15, 2013 7:31 AM GMT
    ssguy69 saidSoy protein and guys got a bad rap some time ago but numerous studies have refuted all that came out about its so called estrogen like effects.

    Soy has been proven to be just as effective a protein.

    I consume it on a daily basis - no man boobs here.
    i would not trust that study unless it was a independent study. dude, there are tons of nutritionist these days who say stay away from soy unless it is the real unprocessed stuff. however, they also say high fructose corn syrup is all natural too
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    Feb 15, 2013 7:32 AM GMT
    tuffguyndc saidi would say soy but if you do not want man boobs than stay away from that. they also make egg protein powder. why don't you try that one


    There isn't enough sufficient evidence that supports the theory that soy milk can cause a man's body to produce estrogen.
    I have been drinking soy and almond milk and, no boobs, lol!
    As for protein powders, there are whey alternatives, soy also being one of them. Egg protein and even hemp protein are found to be good alternatives.
    As for farts- oh well...lol!
  • tuffguyndc

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    Feb 15, 2013 7:32 AM GMT
    Medjai said
    DPrime saidIf you are using a concentrate protein, try switching to an Isolate protein.

    There are isolate proteins that are lactose free if you think that is the issue.
    Or you can try taking digestive enzymes with your Isolate protein to help break it down a little more efficiently.

    There is also that Carnivor protein that is supposed to be an Isolate from a beef source... Haven't looked too much into it, but that may be an option as well.

    Best of luck


    I've seen that! I wondered why you wouldn't just eat a steak...
    because your body needs the protein after a workout right away. it will take your body too long to digest and process the steak
  • Medjai

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    Feb 15, 2013 7:34 AM GMT
    tuffguyndc saidiwould not trust that study unless it was a independent study. dude, there are tons of nutritionist these days who say stay away from soy unless it is the real unprocessed stuff. however, they also say high fructose corn syrup is all natural too


    There are a lot of refutations. Soy has phytoestrogens, not estrogen. It is not compatible with the human endocrine system. Even if they were, soy isn't the highest. Flax is, I believe.

    Nutritionists and dietitians steer clear of soy because its very often GMO.

    tuffguyndc saidbecause your body needs the protein after a workout right away. it will take your body too long to digest and process the steak


    Is it fast absorbing enough? Faster than whey? Slower? Slower or faster than casein? Just a gimmick?
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    Feb 15, 2013 7:40 AM GMT
    The studies I've seen on soy are conflicting. Soy has phytoestrogens, which are similar to estrogen, but not the same thing. Other plant products have more phytoestrogens than soy, but I don't think any of them are consumed in the large quantities that we consume soy. Plenty of guys use soy and don't seem to develop female characteristics.

    However, the recommendations I've seen also say to be cautious with soy if your family has a history with breast or prostate cancer. Some studies show that soy reduces the chances of developing these cancers, but other studies show that they increase the chances. It isn't worth taking that chance, so if you have increased risk factors, it may be better to stay away from large amounts of soy until further study is done.
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    Feb 15, 2013 7:41 AM GMT
    Medjai saidIs it fast absorbing enough? Faster than whey? Slower? Slower or faster than casein? Just a gimmick?

    Whey is said to be the fastest absorbed protein and is supposed to be great immediately following a workout. Casein is a slowly absorbed protein and is recommended for taking before bed for a steady supply of protein overnight as you are resting (based on what I've read).
  • Medjai

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    Feb 15, 2013 7:43 AM GMT
    DudeInNOVA said
    Medjai saidIs it fast absorbing enough? Faster than whey? Slower? Slower or faster than casein? Just a gimmick?

    Whey is said to be the fastest absorbed protein and is supposed to be great immediately following a workout. Casein is a slowly absorbed protein and is recommended for taking before bed for a steady supply of protein overnight as you are resting (based on what I've read).


    And soy or hemp are in the middle. But where does this beef protein fit?
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    Feb 15, 2013 7:44 AM GMT
    Medjai saidAnd soy or hemp are in the middle. But where does this beef protein fit?

    That I don't know. I don't know anyone who takes beef protein.
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    Feb 15, 2013 10:20 AM GMT
    Try milk - it is a great source of protein. An excellent recovery drink is 500ml semi skimmed milk and here in the UK 45ml of golden syrup. This gives you 15.5 G protein, 60 G carbs, cals = 374 and a carb protein ration = 3.8:1. So it is the perfect post resistance recovery drink
  • geebus

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    Feb 15, 2013 10:24 AM GMT
    Pea, rice, and egg protein are all possible options.
  • gooddude1583

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    Feb 15, 2013 1:25 PM GMT
    Thanks for all your comments! I'll start looking into some of these alternatives.
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    Feb 15, 2013 1:34 PM GMT
    Hey OP,
    Check out truenutrition.com. They have some alternatives to whey. I'm using a Gemma Pea Protein and Hemp Protein hybrid. It's even vegan.